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Title: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 07, 2006, 05:35:47 PM
Review for...

"Cowards don't Pray" (aka taste of vengeance)

Garko stars (pre Sartana) in this dark and bleak spaghetti western.
Garko's wife is the victim of a rape/murder. He joins up with a friend to seek revenge. When Garko kills the men he believes to be his wife's murderers he becomes deranged by the blood shed and becomes a violent outlaw. Eventually his friend has to take him down.
This is a wonderful character piece with plenty of action. It succeeds in what "Day of Anger" and "Face to Face" TRIED to accomplish...a well done character change. The film takes the time to show you what is going on inside Garko's head throughout and you follow the character as he goes down to the "darkside", as it were. FTF and DOA accomplish this in a half-assed manner, they would rather show you the next big set piece then bother showing you the change of the characters.

While "Cowards dont pray" is no where near as good as FTF and DOA it still holds a big victory by showing you a very well made character piece.

The main problem with it is the direction is not very consistant. Some segments are shot beautifully while other segments suffer from the direction being very amatuerish. One or two of the action scenes arent very well put together and you dont really understand what is going on until the scene is over. perhaps this is my dvd copie's fault. It's not the best looking of transfers (the night scenes are a real pain in the ass to see what is going on) but it isnt horrible either.

The dialogue is sometimes laughably cheesy but that is to be expected in this genre so it didnt bother me. The acting is damn good. though I think Garko seems to overact a bit at times (think "Blood at sundown" and you'll get the idea) but for the most part he is very good and by the end of the picture you feel sorry for him even though he is a merciless killing machine.
Everybody else does a good job as well.

Most of the musical score is forgettable except for the main theme which has children chanting (this piece of music works well in a few scenes).


all in all...This is an above average entry to the genre. Were not talking top 20 material here...but top 50 out of my 120 sounds like a good place for it.

this is one of Garko's better films outside the Sartana series.
Right on par with "Vengeance is Mine" and "10,000 for a massacre".

Great film! go find this gem now!


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! (aka Taste of Vengeance)
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 07, 2006, 05:48:10 PM
Great obscure spaghetti!
a little hidden gem I say.

Garko stars (pre Sartana) in this dark and bleak spaghetti western.
Garko's wife is the victim of a rape/murder. He joins up with a friend to seek revenge. When Garko kills the men he believes to be his wife's murderers he becomes deranged by the blood shed and becomes a violent outlaw. Eventually his friend has to take him down.
This is a wonderful character piece with plenty of action. It succeeds in what "Day of Anger" and "Face to Face" TRIED to accomplish...a well done character change. The film takes the time to show you what is going on inside Garko's head throughout and you follow the character as he goes down to the "darkside", as it were. FTF and DOA accomplish this in a half-assed manner, they would rather show you the next big set piece then bother showing you the change of the characters.

While "Cowards dont pray" is no where near as good as FTF and DOA it still holds a big victory by showing you a very well made character piece.

The main problem with it is the direction is not very consistant. Some segments are shot beautifully while other segments suffer from the direction being very amatuerish. One or two of the action scenes arent very well put together and you dont really understand what is going on until the scene is over. perhaps this is my dvd copie's fault. It's not the best looking of transfers (the night scenes are a real pain in the ass to see what is going on) but it isnt horrible either.

The dialogue is sometimes laughably cheesy but that is to be expected in this genre so it didnt bother me. The acting is damn good. though I think Garko seems to overact a bit at times (think "Blood at sundown" and you'll get the idea) but for the most part he is very good and by the end of the picture you feel sorry for him even though he is a merciless killing machine.
Everybody else does a good job as well.

Most of the musical score is forgettable except for the main theme which has children chanting (this piece of music works well in a few scenes).


all in all...This is an above average entry to the genre. Were not talking top 20 material here...but top 50 out of my 120 sounds like a good place for it.

this is one of Garko's better films outside the Sartana series.
Right on par with "Vengeance is Mine" and "10,000 for a massacre".

Great film! go find this gem now!

Sounds like The Bravados, spaghetti western style.


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! (aka Taste of Vengeance)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 07, 2006, 05:49:15 PM
Sounds like The Bravados, spaghetti western style.
yes, violent, gritty, and more entertaining.
I'm slightly over simplifying the plot to CDP in my review though. there is more stuff going on in there...


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! (aka Taste of Vengeance)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 07, 2006, 05:51:04 PM
Wild East should really remaster this.


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! (aka Taste of Vengeance)
Post by: Banjo on August 08, 2006, 02:07:57 AM
Bout time i played my copy Firecracker!† :)
Have you watched And Sartana Killed Them All yet? ::)


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! (aka Taste of Vengeance)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 08, 2006, 03:04:00 PM

Have you watched And Sartana Killed Them All yet? ::)

no I havent Banjo. any good?
I'm changing this thread to another title to include some more reviews.

Saw "Death Sentence" last night. It's excellent! I'll be writing a review tomorrow.


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! (aka Taste of Vengeance)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 09, 2006, 01:38:09 PM
hey guys. Ive hijacked my own thread and moved it over to Sundance's wonderful (but vacant) spag forum.

if you would like to read the rest of my reviews here is a link to his site...

http://www.sundances.net/forums/index.php

my thread is under "the movies" section.


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! (aka Taste of Vengeance)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 10, 2006, 01:10:28 AM
added my "Death Sentence" review here...

http://www.sundances.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=33#33


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! THIS THREAD HAS MOVED. (read more about it inside)
Post by: Banjo on August 11, 2006, 03:21:53 AM
Death Sentence deserves its own thread here-really its that good and i'd expect Shobary to give it at least a 90% rating.
As well as Milians brilliant albino villain,the other three baddies (in this sw which is basically a film of 4 short stories but works remarkably well) are excellent as well including Aldolfo Celi(who played Largo in the James Bond film Thunderball) as the sadistic preist and a special mention for Enrico Maria Salerno(as a seemingly unbeatable card shark) who i've also been highly impressed the other 3 sw's† i've seen him in - Death Walks In Laredo(another top sw for review Firecracker? ::) ) , Train For Durango(a neat Bullet For The General parody) and Bandidos(check out Leone Admirers SW Virgins thread ;) ).I understand that Salerno is very highly regarded in Italy,and rightly so :)†


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! THIS THREAD HAS MOVED. (read more about it inside)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 11, 2006, 03:27:48 AM
Death Sentence deserves its own thread here-really its that good and i'd expect Shobary to give it at least a 90% rating.
As well as Milians brilliant albino villain,the other three baddies (in this sw which is basically a film of 4 short stories but works remarkably well) are excellent as well including Aldolfo Celi(who played Largo in the James Bond film Thunderball) as the sadistic preist and a special mention for Enrico Maria Salerno(as a seemingly unbeatable card shark) who i've also been highly impressed the other 3 sw's† i've seen him in - Death Walks In Laredo(another top sw for review Firecracker? ::) ) , Train For Durango(a neat Bullet For The General parody) and Bandidos(check out Leone Admirers SW Virgins thread ;) ).I understand that Salerno is very highly regarded in Italy,and rightly so :)†



seen Bandidos.
I would give it an 85%

gotta agree with you on "Death Sentence". If shobary doesnt give it at least a 90% we'll murder em.
He'll be getting it soon from me so we shall see.


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! THIS THREAD HAS MOVED. (read more about it inside)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 11, 2006, 03:34:44 AM
never mind people...were back in buisness.


here is the review...

review for "death sentence"


(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/sentenza/Death_Sentence_05.jpg)

ya know once you get past the 100th movie mark in the spaghetti western genre...things start to get a little crappy. pretty much every other film is a tremendous piece of crap and everything else is just average.
how ever..."Death Sentence" is made of finer stuff.

The story is a standard revenge tale. A Gunslinger named Django († ) witnesses his brother being killed by four baddies. Naturally Django is gets angry and sets out for revenge against the four nasty men. what is so good about the film is the staging and the plotting. The is set up in four different acts (or episodes). each episode is different from the other and Django dispatches of his foes in ways that are suitable to their own characters.
The first nasty Django takes care of was greedy for land...so Django chases him all across the desert with no water or food. In the next act the baddie is a gambler...so a game of cards is inevitable, however the stakes are a matter of life or death. The third act Django faces a deranged Preacher who executes "sinners" with his own revolver.

And the final villian Django must face is probably one of the most memorable villians you will ever run across during your spaghetti veiwings. He is an albino insane for gold and blonde woman. who else to play this dastardly and terminally weird character other than cuban actor Tomas Milain!
Though Tomas overacts as this character (especially during a very disturbing seizure scene) that is part of the fun! Despite the rather silly white wig he has on the character is really creepy, almost like a vampire. in fact their are times when I think Milian is channeling Max Shrek as Count Orlock from "Nosferatu".

The film becomes increasingly like a horror film as it moves through it's four acts.
by the third act you have a preacher that seems to be into satanic like rituals and then in the fourth act the final scene takes place in a ruined church that is said to be "cursed" (as mentioned by one of the villians lackies).

the music itself has a very spooky feel to it.
however the main theme is very campy and fun.

This is not one to be missed! certainly we are talking top 30 material here!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 11, 2006, 03:38:47 AM
Thats a great new thread title Firecracker and a useful counterpoint for your crappiest sw guide ;)
Have you watched either Death Walks in Laredo or Train For Durango yet? ::)


Title: Re: Cowards dont pray! THIS THREAD HAS MOVED. (read more about it inside)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 11, 2006, 03:39:21 AM
This thread can also be found at sundance's forum.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 11, 2006, 03:41:02 AM
Thats a great new thread title Firecracker and a useful counterpoint for your crappiest sw guide ;)
Have you watched either Death Walks in Laredo or Train For Durango yet? ::)


no I havent seen either sadly. perhaps some time this weekend as I have hosting to do on the morrow (or today, depending on where you are in the world).

I like to think of this as the opposite of my other thread as well. :)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 11, 2006, 03:50:26 AM
You mean the hosting for Firearm etc? ::)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 11, 2006, 03:52:59 AM
You mean the hosting for Firearm etc? ::)

yeah kinda. got this gig in hosting for a cinematech showcasing Leone's westerns. we could only have four so I fought for DYS to be played (as opposed to the more obvious choice WEST) and so it is...


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 12, 2006, 05:05:05 PM
Not that it is an sw...but it is sw in attitude.

saw Barquero just now.
It is a good western that I had the potential to be an excellent one. If Van Cleef were still alive and in good shape...i think this would be good for a remake.

I think the main problem is that Van Cleef (the hero) is given very little to do. He just kinda sits around and doesnt do much of anything until he is needed at the end to kill the main bad guy, who is played by warren Oates in an Indio like role.

recommended.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 12, 2006, 05:11:28 PM
For those that have seen "Barquero" why is it that Van Cleef is wearing the baddies hat in this poster????

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065451/posters


the poster of "Barquero" in this page is much nicer (the one titled "Barquero poster 2") and makes much more sense ::)

http://www.westernposterpage.com/vancleef.htm


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 14, 2006, 05:42:02 PM
Do you think Barquero counts as a sw?
I'm sure it wasn't filmed in Almeria and doesn't really resemble anything other than an American western,but an entertaining one at that!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 14, 2006, 06:27:04 PM
like I said earlier Banjo...it isnt an sw. but it is in attitude.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: cigar joe on August 14, 2006, 09:45:26 PM
Critics have called it the most Itlanianate of American Westerns, just think what a Leone, a Corbucci or a Sollima, could have done with the story.  8)

The poster is a goof.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 15, 2006, 01:32:25 AM
Critics have called it the most Itlanianate of American Westerns
I'm not sure how,many they should see a few more films.† †;D I like Barquero a lot but theres not nearly enough action served up if its to be compared with sw's and its more of a psychological type western where there are large portions where nothing much happens.
† † †Any Firecracker as requested i'm tagging on the Matalo review for him to pull apart in due course ;) :-
 
This has got to be the most bizarre sw i've seen outside of Django Kill ,watched it this afternoon and i'm struggling what to make of it
The film starts of promising enough with a crazy outlaw called Bart who is about to be hung but is rescued by a mob,they run out of town only for Bart to gun down down his rescuers when they reach safety.He meets up with his two equally sadistic accomplices Bill and Ted(yes,really unless my ears need scringing ) and together with his girlfriend they go on to rob a stagecoach for gold,kill the passengers,but Bart is double crossed,shot in the back and left for dead.
† † Now this is where it gets weird,Bill,Ted and girlfriend hide out in a ghost town called Benson which is "ruled" by one strange old woman called Mrs Benson.All sorts of bizarre stuff kicks off to the accompaniment of spaced out psychedelic music† and alien-like sound effects,with everything visually going haywire with the camera spinning and panning everywhere to disorientating effect and much of it in slow motion -and this carries on for the rest of the film.The crooks fall out,the gold is hidden,and a drifter(played by Lou Castel armed with boomerangs) stumbles thirstily into town only to be tortured to excessive proportions.Weider still is the constant apparation of a spooky singular eye and rifle wreaking havoc with the bad guys.This movie has a definate horror feel to it but is definately of its time with all the drug induced audio and visuals-oh yes there is a twist at the end but this is rather predictable.
Maybe the director Cesare Canavari should be commended for pulling something different from out of the bag for his only sw but i still recommend one should treat this one with caution.I'm in no hurry for a 2nd viewing!



Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 15, 2006, 01:59:01 PM
saw "Death Plays the flute" last night. I think he can be apart of our "good obscure sw" reviews...as it was a good entertaining entry to the genre.

the review will be written shortly.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 17, 2006, 02:21:42 AM
I wasn't too enamoured with Death Played The Flute but i'll wait for your review ::)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 17, 2006, 11:35:11 PM
Review for "Death Played the flute".

A good solid spaghetti. This is a really no nonsense brutal film in which the director waste no time by trying to make you laugh with a cutesy joke or two, he wants to get to the nitty gritty right from the get go.

Our hero Barton comes back home to find that his daughter has been raped and his wife murdered. He sets out to seek for the baddies that did his family wrong...only...there is one problem...he doesnt know what they look like.
He hires a shady flute playing gunslinger named Whistler who claims to know what the bad guys look like. What Barton doesnt know is that Whistler was involved in the murder/rape. We are never really given a reason as to why Whistler wants to help kill his old comrades..we just have to assume it was because he felt bad for the crime he witnessed, which the movie does set-up in the beginning, but it is rather vague.

I must say that Barton is the most useless spaghetti hero I have ever laid eyes on. The guy never once kills a member of the gang that raided his home. In fact...he only kills like two guys in a completly unrelated segment to the plot. The one who ends up avenging his wife's murder is Whistler. He kills all the members of the gang one by one and that sorta sets him up as the hero (even though he is a semi-baddie).
Barton never even finds out that Whistler was apart of the raiders...
The most unlikly of characters kills Whistler at the end ( I wont say who though).

The action scenes are sometimes bland but always entertaining.
The theme song is called "a man is made of love" which deserves to be shoved into a lesser movie like "shoot the living ,pray for the dead". The rest of the music is mostly suspense music that fits the movie well.
The direction is much like the action sequences...sometimes Bland but most of the time pretty dynamic and fun.

Whistler is a cool "Hero". He wears a neat leather duster and plays a flute which can shoot darts (ok fine. He uses it in one scene† ::)).
Unfortunatly he has the worst hair-do I have ever seen...even worse then Tony Anthony.
I sometimes mistook him for an Elvis impersonator.
And he has quite an annoying laugh , more of a nervous chuckle really.

overall a good entertaining obscure spaghetti that doesnt try to be something special.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 18, 2006, 02:08:52 AM

I sometimes mistook him for an Elvis impersonator.
He,he the same thoughts occured to me too-Elvis Las Vegas era-not his coolest,and the Whistler wasn't particular cool either,and† Barton was very bland.
† † I watched this half-asleep late at night (so perhaps i should have another look) ,and this (very low-budget -not usually a problem for me)movie just seemed to drag a bit too much and the ending (*spoiler ahead*) where the girl takes seemingly forever to gun down( in slow-slow-motion† :P )Elvis(the flute was a pathetically minute wooden whistle with an impossibly low pitch† :o )was dragged out to ludicrous proportions.You're right about the music,very airy-fairy and of its time for the 1970's,not sw material :(


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Marco Leone on August 18, 2006, 04:30:02 AM
I really enjoyed Death Played the Flute  ;D lol sometimes I think I am just far too easily pleased though lol.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 18, 2006, 04:58:10 AM
Well i'm outnumbered 2 to 1,and quite often i'll change my mind about a movie.Its no good really trying to watch a new film when ones nearly nodding off :-[


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 18, 2006, 06:39:38 AM
Great obscure spaghetti!
a little hidden gem I say.

Garko stars (pre Sartana) in this dark and bleak spaghetti western.
Garko's wife is the victim of a rape/murder. He joins up with a friend to seek revenge. When Garko kills the men he believes to be his wife's murderers he becomes deranged by the blood shed and becomes a violent outlaw. Eventually his friend has to take him down.
This is a wonderful character piece with plenty of action. It succeeds in what "Day of Anger" and "Face to Face" TRIED to accomplish...a well done character change. The film takes the time to show you what is going on inside Garko's head throughout and you follow the character as he goes down to the "darkside", as it were. FTF and DOA accomplish this in a half-assed manner, they would rather show you the next big set piece then bother showing you the change of the characters.

While "Cowards dont pray" is no where near as good as FTF and DOA it still holds a big victory by showing you a very well made character piece.

The main problem with it is the direction is not very consistant. Some segments are shot beautifully while other segments suffer from the direction being very amatuerish. One or two of the action scenes arent very well put together and you dont really understand what is going on until the scene is over. perhaps this is my dvd copie's fault. It's not the best looking of transfers (the night scenes are a real pain in the ass to see what is going on) but it isnt horrible either.

The dialogue is sometimes laughably cheesy but that is to be expected in this genre so it didnt bother me. The acting is damn good. though I think Garko seems to overact a bit at times (think "Blood at sundown" and you'll get the idea) but for the most part he is very good and by the end of the picture you feel sorry for him even though he is a merciless killing machine.
Everybody else does a good job as well.

Most of the musical score is forgettable except for the main theme which has children chanting (this piece of music works well in a few scenes).


all in all...This is an above average entry to the genre. Were not talking top 20 material here...but top 50 out of my 120 sounds like a good place for it.

this is one of Garko's better films outside the Sartana series.
Right on par with "Vengeance is Mine" and "10,000 for a massacre".

Great film! go find this gem now!
I watched this sw this morning and i'm not sure i agree with you over Brians(Garko's) transformation because more or less following his wifes murder he is a totally changed man-killing from the off without scruples-straight away very trigger happy and very early in the film demands money from a guy for having just killed his son. :o
 *SPOILER WARNING*
The only real surprise where he matches the maniacal intensity from Blood At Sundown is near the end where he totally snaps instantaneously on seeing the sheriffs star(this object is the only enduring memory from his wifes demise)on his friend Robert and kills him.
He's a nutter from the word go ::)
† † With Scot Mary in Day Of Anger i don't see it as Mary going through a transformation rather than him being manipulated by Talby.Instead of being bad guy killer Mary is only throughout protecting Talbys back-and the townsfolk Mary takes out his revenge on are no better in terms of evil deeds than Talby.Mary never becomes the monster that Brad(from FTH) or Brian is ,and† underneath still has a heart of gold and he realises his
wrongdoing by Talbys misdirection following his mentor Murph's murder by Talby.
† † I still think that Brads transformation from poorly professor to ruthless killer is well handled in FTF.Its quite apparent from Brads speech to his pupils prior to the main film titles that he places a high value on people making their mark on history-and i believe from this speech that Brad most definately has a killer lurking within him which is only being held back by his education and background.Meeting Beau GRADUALLY brings out the bad guy in him and you can tell from Brads hesistation in helping out Beau (by killing)that he is suffering a total dilema over his actions-but with his obsession with history etc† he just can't help himself in the end.Its very interesting that as soon as Brad arrives at Bennets Raiders hideout he is totally fixated by these bandits,he knows he is more intelligent than them and just can't help himself from joining them and making his mark.Brad is one of the most fascinating characters in a sw and is brilliantly played by Volonte.
Equally brilliant is Milians Beau and his transformation is handled equally as well.He is a savage monster at the start of FTF but starting from when he just couldn't quite shoot Brad the seeds are already there to suggest that Beau isn't all that bad and which is gradually helped along by Brads early relaying wisdom about right and wrong.By the time of the failed bank heist Beau is totterring on rejecting this lifestyle by being unable to kill the boy,and as Charlie Siringo says at the end the" real Beauregard Bennett doesn't exist anymore anyhow"
FTF is a truly great sw on par with Leone on many levels AND more thought provoking.
† BTW,Cowards Don't Pray is excellent including the soundtrack.I'd give it an 80% rating. ;)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 18, 2006, 11:02:54 AM
  I still don't think it was a "character change" rather than wanting instant revenge for Murph.He would never have killed Talby otherwise and judging by the regret displayed by the last scene-he loved and respected Talby still nearly as much as Murph.
   What about my Face to Face comments?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 18, 2006, 11:23:44 AM
† I still don't think it was a "character change" rather than wanting instant revenge for Murph.He would never have killed Talby otherwise and judging by the regret displayed by the last scene-he loved and respected Talby still nearly as much as Murph.
† †What about my Face to Face comments?


whoops...I got Murph's name wrong on my last post. I posted Burt.

As for "Face to Face" I'm thinking of giving it another view some time soon. I have only seen it once and I would imagine that kind of film gets better with every viewing.

But the transformation seemed far too quick and the camera didnt really focus much on Bennet's and Brad's relationship.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 18, 2006, 11:25:00 AM

whoops...I got Murph's name wrong on my last post. I posted Burt.

As for "Face to Face" I'm thinking of giving it another view some time soon. I have only seen it once and I would imagine that kind of film gets better with every viewing.

But the transformation seemed far too quick and the camera didnt really focus much on Bennet's and Brad's relationship.

Is there anyplace where I can get Face to Face on DVD?

Any region will do.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 18, 2006, 11:37:28 AM
Is there anyplace where I can get Face to Face on DVD?

Any region will do.

region 2.

www.xploitedcinema.com

The audio is pretty crap...


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 19, 2006, 01:48:04 AM
region 2.

www.xploitedcinema.com

The audio is pretty crap...
As regards that pre-credit scene it doesn't help that alot of what Brad says to his pupils is inaudible and luckily i also have the (cut)vhs where the audio is fine.
Its a shame that the audio is so bad because i believe it does have a major bearing on Brads character change.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: boardwalk_angel on August 19, 2006, 04:16:51 AM
As regards that pre-credit scene it doesn't help that alot of what Brad says to his pupils is inaudible and luckily i also have the (cut)vhs where the audio is fine.
Its a shame that the audio is so bad because i believe it does have a major bearing on Brads character change.

The Dean's remarks to Fletcher are also very telling.
I'd be happy to post the English subtitles...from the Italian version, for that scene..if anyone would like to see them.
Say the word.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 19, 2006, 05:48:50 AM
Good idea BA and we'd be grateful if you could ;)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: boardwalk_angel on August 19, 2006, 06:11:15 AM
Ok...
Why don't I make a new topic & do just that.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 19, 2006, 07:12:14 AM
The Dean's remarks to Fletcher are also very telling.
I'd be happy to post the English subtitles...from the Italian version, for that scene..if anyone would like to see them.
Say the word.
I overlooked that you can bring up the English subtitles where the sound is inaudible but the obvious parts of that dialogue where you can see where Brad might be heading are when Brad addresses the following to his pupils:-
 Because...
-though all men must die in time...
-other men will make history live.
And each man can choose
his own part in history.
You are twenty years old.
You will have to choose, many times-
-between just and unjust,
truth and untruth.
And always the answer is
only to be found-
-within you.

and this (as BA says) part of the exchange between Brad and the Dean:-

Dean: You talk as though you don't care.
And I must say, given your intelligence,
-you should have gone far,
a lot farther than you have.

Fletcher: But I'm not complaining.

Dean: That's just the trouble.
You have no ambition.
That's why you've never been promoted.

In this country there are no limits
for the man who is willing to fight.

You've never struggled against
the position fate has put you in.
But that is what you must do now,
more than ever.

Maybe with Brad seemingly anticipating his own death from tuberculosis this prod from the Dean may† subconsciously have planted the seeds in Brads head about what he's about to become? ::)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 23, 2006, 07:47:57 AM
Good news! "Death Walks in Laredo" is worthy to be apart of this community of obscure BUT good spags. :)
Be sure to catch a review of it later.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 23, 2006, 11:12:19 AM
I just knew you'd like it :D
Enrico Maria Salerno totally makes that film does he not?† :)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 23, 2006, 11:37:23 AM

Enrico Maria Salerno totally makes that film does he not?† :)


I wouldnt say he is an outstanding villian but he is memorable.
And Hunter's "acting" is awful as usual.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 23, 2006, 12:27:14 PM
Review for...
"Death Walks in Laredo"

This is an odd ball spaghetti. Just as goofy as "heads you die, tails I kill you" but far more entertaining and better, despite it's lower production values and it's less capable director (Carmineo is far better than Enzo Peri)...

The story is of three strangers drifting into the town of laredo to proclaim their rightful inheritance to a gold mine that each of their fathers left them...but wait! We later find out that these three strangers are from the same father with different woman...thus making them siblings.
They are quite a strange trio indeed...each of them have their own little gimick. White Sibley (Thomas Hunter) carries an arsenal of gadgets including a four barrled revolver, his asian half brother Kato is a master of martial arts (The weakest gimick) and finally his french brother Devereaux uses the power of magnetism to stop baddies from using their pistols ::) .

Together these three caballeros use their gadgets, fists and jedi mind tricks to stop the corrupt town boss who has stolen their father's land.
The town boss is Julius Cesar Fuller (Enrico maria Salerno) and he fancies himself to be THE Julius Cesar. Some may think that he is an excellent baddie but I dont. He is quite memorable but he fails to be threatening, he kinda just sits around barking orders at his lackies until he is finally disposed of at the end (surprise surprise). His Surroundings are far more interesting then he is...he's house is like a Roman palace complete with indoor bathing house, elevator and scantily clad woman who "service" him.
It was surprising ( and disappointing) to me that he did not have a large gladitor arena outside in his back yard. It would have been nice to see him pit our three heroes in a ring with bulls and some of his best men. Oh well...wishful thinking for the remake ;)† .

You wont find anything special with the music...perhaps the title theme may be of some interest.

The action scenes are well put together and their is a lot of them. There is not a dull moment in the whole film.

The acting is what you would expect from the likes of Thomas Hunter...Terrible. He is best suited for silent films rather then talkies. the rest of the cast is of little mention except for maybe Salerno as the memorable (but hardly threatening) Cesar.

On special mention their is a great cat fight between two woman about an hour into the film. Not to be missed!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on August 23, 2006, 03:25:56 PM

This is an odd ball spaghetti. Just as goofy as "heads you die, tails I kill you" but far more entertaining and better, despite it's lower production values and it's less capable director (Carmineo is far better than Enzo Peri)...
Odd it most definately is but very original :)† I've only watched it once but i'd like to see it again very soon so i can comment a bit more on Salerno's marvelous performance-he really hams it up.The Roman Temple
was just briliant.
Hey i just remembered the great song scene with the saloon girl blasting away her pistols as she sang along-very eye catching ;D


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 23, 2006, 03:29:43 PM

Hey i just remembered the great song scene with the saloon girl blasting away her pistols as she sang along-very eye catching ;D


I was wondering the whole time if they were live rounds or just blanks. She could have shot somebody up stairs! :o


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 29, 2006, 07:24:25 PM
Was wondering if you guys would consider "Sonny and Jed" as an obscure spaghetti? I was thinking of finishing it tonight so I could review it tomorrow.

It is one of Corbucci's lesser known westerns after all.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: cigar joe on August 29, 2006, 09:14:35 PM
id just like to hear the review.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on August 29, 2006, 09:23:14 PM
id just like to hear the review.
alrighty. coming up tomorrow then. Unless the hurricane puts out the lights! (or puts out my own) :o


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on September 01, 2006, 10:43:08 PM
Review for

"Sonny and Jed"


(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/reviews/sonny_and_jed.jpg)


Corbucci's lesser spag westerns are no where near as good as his classics (Django, Hellbenders, Companeros, Great Silence, Mercenary) but they are always well made and entertaining films.
"Sonny and Jed" is no exception.


Corbucci must have been inspired by the film "Bonnie and Clyde" when making/writing "Sonny and Jed". The names of the two protagonists are similar and even the plot line loosely follows the 1967 classic crime/romance film. Crminal meets girl, girl falls for criminal, girl marries criminal, girl follows criminal into a life of crime (you know, that old chestnut).

As Jed (played with frenetic delight by Tomas Milain) and Sonny ravage the countryside robbing banks and plundering stagecoaches they are pursued by sadistic sheriff Franciscus (Telly Savalas) and his posse of unsavory "lawmen".

Unlike Corbucci's other westerns, action sequences kinda take a back seat this time. Riding shotgun is mostly comedy (of the vulgar kind). However there is something more interesting thrown into the mix...the focus of a dysfunctional relationship between the two love birds of crime. It does'nt dwelve deep into it (it is'nt a Godard film ::)† ) but there is certainly something there to see that makes for an interesting watch.
In fact some of the best scenes focus on their Love/Hate relationship. There is even a few sweet moments between the two (of one particular note: Sonny admiting to Jed she loves him).

The brutal violence (rape, sadism etc. etc.) that accompanies all of Corbucci's westerns is indeed to be found here but in small doses. Corbucci's new "toy" is vulgarity. The F-bomb (along with it's close cousin mister "S-word") is dropped at least 20 times during the proceedings. In fact most all the nasty words under the sun are to be found in "Sonny and Jed" (mrs. "C- word" and her significant other "big D" were not invited to the party).
Not that it enhances the film at all but just a side note for you vulgarians out there.

Actors:
Tomas Milain as Jed is wonderful. He has all those rodent like qualities that we come to love in Milians comedic roles. It is hard to imagine the film without him. He handles the relationship aspect of the movie very well. Though Jed is usually nasty towards his wife he is very dependent on her.

Some may find Susan George annoying as the whiny tom-boy Sonny, however I found her to be very cute (not just physically but also the way she carries herself). She very much plays a naive little girl in this film even though at this time she must have been in her 20's (she just came off Peckinpah's "Straw Dogs"). It is obvious her character is only infatuated with Jed, infatuated with his ideals towards life etc. etc. she worships him...she does'nt love him. But she believes she does. Which makes her so cute to watch.
A shame she does'nt shed any of her clothes in this film ( her trademark)...I guess they wanted to present her as a underdeveloped girl (which Milian's character always makes reference to). She always has a big fat overcoat to cover her breasts.


Telly Savalas does a decent job in his role as the nasty sheriff Franciscus. He comes off as a threatening figure which our heroes should stay away from at all times. However there comes a time in the film where Franciscus becomes blind from a run in with Jed...after that he is not really that threatening of a character.
I think this character would have benefited greatly with Jack Palance in the role since he did a stupendous job with his other two villian roles in other Corbucci films. Ah well.


The music: Finally! a non-stellar morricone soundtrack. ::)
The main theme is faintly memorable after intial viewing but the rest of the soundtrack is forgettable.


Overall good stuff. Perhaps Corbucci's weakest western not counting his first two ("Minnesota Clay" and "Johnny oro") which cannot really be called "spaghetti westerns" due to their american influences.
But then again...I have'nt seen "The white, the yellow and the black" which I hear is astrocious.
But Honestly...I would recommend this very entertaining film to anybody.

TRIVIA!

Corbucci had Rodney Dangerfield in mind for the role of Jed before Milain showed interest in the project.



Here is the trailer for the film...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCa5vBuEAVw


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sanjuro on September 02, 2006, 10:27:01 AM

Sounds like a fun film to watch. This is one of my "yet to see Corbucci" films. Is R-1 DVD available?



Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on September 02, 2006, 11:48:19 AM
Sounds like a fun film to watch. This is one of my "yet to see Corbucci" films. Is R-1 DVD available?




No. My print is ummm...from a special place. It's widescreen but the transfer is'nt amazing.

I would buy it off seller JERKSI on ebay.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on September 03, 2006, 04:03:25 AM
Overall good stuff. Perhaps Corbucci's weakest western not counting his first two ("Minnesota Clay" and "Johnny oro") which cannot really be called "spaghetti westerns" due to their american influences.
But then again...I have'nt seen "The white, the yellow and the black" which I hear is astrocious.
But Honestly...I would recommend this very entertaining film to anybody.
I've had complete SW overload recently so although i only watched this a couple of months ago,i've had to read your review to jog my brain cells and its pretty much what i feel about it though i wish Savalas would've hammed it up a bit more.Like his other sw performance(Massacre At Fort Holman) i found him a bit one dimensional-maybe i've seen too many Kojaks? ;D
Yes Susan George was annoying-and i normally enjoy her performances and Morricones score was nowhere near varied enough for what we expect from him.
† †I've seen Johnny Oro a couple of times and Minnesota Clay once,Corbucci hadn't developed his style admittedly but theres enough Italian quirks and familiar faces,and the general (Almerian) look of the movies† to keep these movies spaghettiesque enough for me.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on October 13, 2006, 03:15:14 PM
Reviews for "Black Killer" and "California" coming very soon.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on October 13, 2006, 04:36:40 PM
Review for "Black Killer"



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Thomas Weisser calls this a "text-book example of the genre" and for once he couldn't be more correct. This very entertiaining flick is a perfect example of the genre. A gritty "revenge for a slaughtered family" plot mixed with "corrupt town boss" schtick. It's violent, bloody and has some added quirk and nudity in it. A full lengthed role by Klaus Kinski is added for good measure.

A mysterious Man in black (Kinski) rides into the town of Tombstone. He says he is a lawyer named James Webb and carries a gaggle of thick law books around with him. He acquires himself a room at the local hotel and begins to take part in some shady conversations with the town judge. He is especially interested in some land that two mexican outlaws, inaccuratly called the "O'Hara brothers", have stolen.

When the O'Hara's kill a town sheriff, Webb wastes no time in dispatching some of their lackies using his pistols that are intricatly hidden inside his text books and are rigged to go off when he pulls on a book mark. Of course at this point we don't know why he does this nor do we know what he is up to. His motives are not revealed until the very end of the picture.

After the first twenty minutes another Stranger by the name of Burt Collins rides into town and Kinski's character takes a back seat throughout the rest of the picture (he is just shown sneaking around town dropping in on secret conversations held by some villains and shooting from his books when necessary), instead the film becomes the adventures of Burt Collins.

Burt has come to tombstone to visit his brother Peter who is living on the outskirts of town with his indian wife Sarah (another unusual name for a certain character). While Burt spends the night at Peter's house, the house is raided by the O'Hara brothers and Peter is killed. Sarah is brutally raped and Burt gets beaten to a Pulp and left for dead.
Both Burt and Sarah head to the O'hara's hideout for revenge.
The movie has a lot of female frontal nudity, mostly from a saloon girl named Consuelo but Sarah the indian girl shows her back side a few times as well (Nudity is a rare occasion in the genre).

Enjoyed the flick but I have a few minor gripes with it, first and foremost the costumes the O'Hara brothers wear, they have these really ridiculous color coordinated costumes that make them look like circus performers. One of the brothers (the red suited one) has a utility belt full of throwing knives, he only uses these once. The knives should have been a running theme and his death should have involved something with a knife as oppsed to just getting shot.

The very end (I won't get into details as not to spoil anything) shows the revenge driven hero (Burt) to be not so honest as one would expect. In fact his activities at the end make him seem indifferent to his brothers death.

otherwise great action packed film.

The actors:

Kinski is noteworthy as Webb, he brings this mystique to the film that few actors can accomplish.

Fred Robsahm plays Burt Collins very well. In fact I liked him for all the reasons Shobary (http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/black/killer.htm) didn't like him. Shoabry writes "  looks dirty and probably smells bad too". I think that's the whole point of a down and dirty spaghetti western hero but I guess it's different strokes for different folks (shrugs).

Marina Mulligan is cute and sassy as the Indian girl seeking revenge on the villians for killing her husband and raping her in the process. Surprisingly this remains to be mulligan's only contribution to cinema.


The Music:
I enjoyed the horror music esq. type tune for the "James Webb theme" but everything else is barely passable as an Italian western score.


Verdict: a solid spaghetti.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on October 24, 2006, 01:00:50 AM
Review for...

"California" (1977)
Directed by Michele Lupo



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A spaghetti western made late in the game. This nice installment to the genre was released one year after the brilliant "Keoma" and the same year as the decent "Mannaja". Strangely enough these three films are very similar in tone and style. Each of the trio contains a very dark story line filled with run down sets and pessimistic views towards the human race. The three also have their fair share of slow-mo violence (ala Peckinpah). Out of the these three (Mannaja, Keoma and California) "California" is the most unusual but also the most involving. You never once kid yourself that Giuliano Gemma is as mystical as Franco Nero in the role of "Keoma" or as inhumanly deadly as Maurizio Merli as "Blade". No, Gemma's Michael "California" Random is made of softer stuff which makes him more accesible to our acceptance.

The Plot

It's the end of the American Civil War and confederate soldier California (Gemma) has been released from a Union prison camp. He begins to make trails to no where imperticular when suddenly a younger ex-confederate soldier named Willy Preston (played by singer Miguel Bosť) runs into him and wants to befriend him. At first California wants nothing to do with Willy  but they soon learn to bond after realizing Mercenaries are after the price on freed confederate prisoners' heads (that includes them!). After dodging a fearsome and sadisitic Bounty hunter by the name of Whitaker, the two companians reach a ghost town where they are ambushed by Confederate hating Northerners. The Vigilantes shoot and hang Willy leaving California no choice but to make trails to Willy's home in Georgia to tell the bad news to his folks and older sister.

After California tells of the grim news to the Preston Family he is welcomed to stay at the farm for as long as he likes. Willy's sister Helen (who is played by Miguel Bosť's real life sister Paola) predictably falls in love with California and the two share a budding romance.... that is until Helen is kidnapped by the mean, nasty, terrible, ghastly and all around bad bounty hunter Whitaker.

California must saddle up and search for Helen even if he must side with the enemy to do it.


my take:

The film very much feels like three movies in one. You have the half hour relationship between California and Willy(which feels like the first part of a buddy movie), you have the sappy romance segment in the middle of the film and then you have the search party (which consist only of one man) stuff for the thrid act. Needless to say the movie rambles here and there and perhaps it's a little too long for it's own good but it's a well crafted film with some very well done action sequences.

The fist fights are particularly excellent (Which is saying something in a genre that has some of the worst fist fights ever put to celluloid). During a scuffle you can be sure that wood planks, fences and even brick walls (!) will be destroyed to make way for the competitors to further duke it out without breaking a sweat or getting exhausted. It's all good fun until somebody is beaten to death or impaled by a stake, then it just becomes down right COOL.


The gunfights are equally nice, always taking place in some deserted ghost town with buildings that crumble at the firing of a bullet. I must point out that set designer Carlo Simi did his best work for this movie. All the ghost towns are especially spooky with muddy streets and ram shackled buildings. One set even includes craters on the town street formed by cannon fire during some recent battle.


Gemma is great as the loner known as California. He seems to have some sort of past that he wants to desperatly put behind him but we never quite find out what that past is (shades of his character in "and for a roof a skyful of stars") and we don't need to. It's not important. He tells us all we need to know about him through his performance.


William Berger has a small role as Willy Preston's father. For you Berger fans out there don't expect him to be shooting anybody or even take part in any action sequences. Fair warning.

The soundtrack is mostly mood music although there is an attempt to have some memorable score with the main title theme but it is an utter failure in the memorable department (shucks).

Director Michele Lupo made five other spaghetti westerns besides this one (three starring Gemma ). I have seen three of the five and so far this is his best effort. An enjoyable film, one of the last (if not THE last) good spaghetti westerns before the genre was buried on Boot Hill.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 15, 2006, 02:34:59 PM
The brutal "My name is Pecos" will be reviewed soon.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on November 20, 2006, 10:36:44 PM
what's the best release for "death sentence"?

all i've been able to find so far is the Koch media release.. any good?



Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 21, 2006, 12:01:39 AM
what's the best release for "death sentence"?

all i've been able to find so far is the Koch media release.. any good?



I honestly couldn't tell you as mine was a bootleg that I got from a trade.

I would say Koch media is the way to go considering that all of my dvds from them are top notch!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on November 22, 2006, 06:36:30 PM
thanks for the in depth, well written reviews by the way

will definitely be using as reference for future films to pick up


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 26, 2006, 04:04:56 PM
thanks for the in depth, well written reviews by the way



Thank you. I don't particularly like the first few which I think were written rather badly but the last few have been half-way decent.

By the way (if you haven't already figured it out) the "Death Sentence" copy I have is the same as shobary's. You can see from his screenshots that it is the release to get.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Peacemaker on November 26, 2006, 04:14:01 PM
Is Death Sentence a rip-off of Vengeance? They have similar storylines and similar characters.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 26, 2006, 04:18:24 PM
Is Death Sentence a rip-off of Vengeance? They have similar storylines and similar characters.

Well then most spaghetti's would be rip-offs from each other ;D

It's just a standard revenge story taken to a different and creative level.

"Vengeance" follows a more traditional story in the "Revenge for a slaughtered Family/friend" theme.

Both are very entertaining but DS is by far the superior.


As I understand...
The origin of the revenge for slaughtered whatever theme in a western dates back to 1930's westerns where the hero has to track down his father's killer.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Peacemaker on November 26, 2006, 04:22:34 PM
And I taped Vengeance to see on Thanksgiving.

I got so excited, it looked so good, I even started watching the first 15 minutes when I realized the tape ran out...during the final confrontation!  >:(


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 26, 2006, 05:00:07 PM
And I taped Vengeance to see on Thanksgiving.

I got so excited, it looked so good, I even started watching the first 15 minutes when I realized the tape ran out...during the final confrontation!† >:(


You didn't miss much...the final duel is just a standard showdown.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Peacemaker on November 26, 2006, 05:03:44 PM

You didn't miss much...the final duel is just a standard showdown.

Really?

The tape ended where Mendoza was sneaking through what appeared to be a cave.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 26, 2006, 05:19:51 PM
Really?

The tape ended where Mendoza was sneaking through what appeared to be a cave.
yeah it takes place in the cole mine (or was it a sulfur mine?).


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 27, 2006, 01:41:13 PM
Okay change of schedule here...gonna be doing "Sartana kills them all" before "My name is Pecos".


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 27, 2006, 02:17:10 PM
Review for
"Sartana kills them all"



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This film has nothing to do with the very popular Sartana character sw fans know and love. Garko plays a character named Sartana but he is not the same mystical gambler most fans are familiar with. The name was borrowed to cash in on the success of the Sartana series. In fact the italian title ("un par de asesiones") shows no mention of Sartana at all. The culprit of this hijacking is the American or English distributors.

Gianni Garko stars as a low down thieving bandit named Sartana (Looking more like a hatless Davy Crokett than the black clad gambler/avenger) who is searching for $100,000 worth of loot along with his less than trustworthy mexican pal Marcos.

Both bandits are being relentlessly chased by a sheriff and his deputies. Along the way our "heroes" meet up with an unsavory but good looking woman who wants to be apart of the gang. A relationship developes between the girl and Sartana (or so we think). Marcos becomes increasingly jealous of the pairing and the movie begins to hint that Sartana and Marcos will not be partners for long.

That is the best I could do with the plot because honestly there is way more going on. The movie has several sub-plots (some get resolved and some don't), it's usually just to add a bit of action in between the main plot.
The best of these sub-plots is undoubtably about a family gang of murderous scum named "The Kirbies". Father Kirby and his four dim-witted, but deadly, sons hijack a stagecoach and stow away the passengers in an abandoned barn house where they happily murder them all. The Kirbies later run into Sartana and co. and a suspenseful confrontation ensues.

Towards the end things get a little farcical with stupid sight gags but all of that is forgiven by this reviewer. I had a hell of a time watching something I expected very little from.

Non-stop action, a good score*, sleazy sexual tension and fun characters make this spaghetti worth a few looks.

*The main theme is VERY catchy and the whole soundtrack is well put together.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Poggle on November 27, 2006, 02:46:40 PM
Whoa, then I MUST see Death Sentence! I enjoyed Vengeance immensely. One night while watching tv late at night I came across it from the beginning and it was just the perfect experience, even if the movie is flawed. I thought to myself "Dammit, I MUST find another movie like this!" The only one that I felt came a little close in mood was Django Kill, which I enjoyed, but nothing to rival it.

Expecting Tomas Milian then I MUST see this shit!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on November 27, 2006, 03:23:32 PM
Whoa, then I MUST see Death Sentence! I enjoyed Vengeance immensely. One night while watching tv late at night I came across it from the beginning and it was just the perfect experience, even if the movie is flawed. I thought to myself "Dammit, I MUST find another movie like this!" The only one that I felt came a little close in mood was Django Kill, which I enjoyed, but nothing to rival it.

Expecting Tomas Milian then I MUST see this ******!

i also loved Vengeance... has been one of my favorite spaghettis. it was definitely very unique .. i particularly liked the villain. this one was a pleasant surprise, as i was expecting it to be total crap


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 27, 2006, 03:27:08 PM
this one was a pleasant surprise, as i was expecting it to be total crap


What? "Sartana kills them all"?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on November 27, 2006, 03:29:22 PM

What? "Sartana kills them all"?

Na, i was replying to Poggle's post about Vengeance. Sartana Kills Them All is still sitting in my yet-to-be-watched spaghettis.. will probably be viewing sometime this week


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 27, 2006, 03:30:33 PM
Why did you think "Vengeance" would be crap? was it the simple title?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on November 27, 2006, 03:33:45 PM
Why did you think "Vengeance" would be crap? was it the simple title?

that was part of it. i rented Vengeance from netflix, not having any idea what it was. i just found it when i was digging through their available spaghetti westerns. i think it was a combination of the fact that most of the stuff i was finding on netflix at the time wasn't that great, the title, some user comments on it, and maybe the cover image they had on netflix.. although i can't really remember as it was some time ago..


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Peacemaker on November 27, 2006, 03:55:16 PM
Well I only saw the first 15 minutes of Vengeance, but from what I saw it was really good.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 27, 2006, 03:57:21 PM
The intro alone is worth the price of admission.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Peacemaker on November 27, 2006, 04:05:51 PM
The intro alone is worth the price of admission.

Disturbing wasn't it?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 27, 2006, 04:12:33 PM
Disturbing wasn't it?
Nope, just really cool.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on November 27, 2006, 04:39:08 PM
Nope, just really cool.

haha.. yeah.. it takes quite a bit to disturb in this day and age


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on November 30, 2006, 07:02:21 AM
Well I only saw the first 15 minutes of Vengeance, but from what I saw it was really good.
Yeah Vengeance is ace but apart from his physical presence the uncharasmatic Richard Harrison(wasn't he nearly the MWNN? :-\)is a pretty ordinary anti-hero and he wasn't too much cop either in Between God,The Devil and A Winchester and Jesse & Lester(a clone of Franco Neros " Pengiun" in this one!!).
In fact i'm surprised he was employed for so many sw's but (through trading) i've still got to take a look at Holy Water Joe,His Name Is King,100,000 Dollars For Ringo and Rojo.†


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on November 30, 2006, 08:04:19 AM
Richard Harrison(wasn't he nearly the MWNN? :-\)


YEP. the idiot turned it down to do a safe Peplum.



Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 12:46:56 PM
Review for...

"California" (1977)
Directed by Michele Lupo



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A spaghetti western made late in the game. This nice installment to the genre was released one year after the brilliant "Keoma" and the same year as the decent "Mannaja". Strangely enough these three films are very similar in tone and style. Each of the trio contains a very dark story line filled with run down sets and pessimistic views towards the human race. The three also have their fair share of slow-mo violence (ala Peckinpah). Out of the these three (Mannaja, Keoma and California) "California" is the most unusual but also the most involving. You never once kid yourself that Giuliano Gemma is as mystical as Franco Nero in the role of "Keoma" or as inhumanly deadly as Maurizio Merli as "Blade". No, Gemma's Michael "California" Random is made of softer stuff which makes him more accesible to our acceptance.

The Plot

It's the end of the American Civil War and confederate soldier California (Gemma) has been released from a Union prison camp. He begins to make trails to no where imperticular when suddenly a younger ex-confederate soldier named Willy Preston (played by singer Miguel Bosť) runs into him and wants to befriend him. At first California wants nothing to do with Willy  but they soon learn to bond after realizing Mercenaries are after the price on freed confederate prisoners' heads (that includes them!). After dodging a fearsome and sadisitic Bounty hunter by the name of Whitaker, the two companians reach a ghost town where they are ambushed by Confederate hating Northerners. The Vigilantes shoot and hang Willy leaving California no choice but to make trails to Willy's home in Georgia to tell the bad news to his folks and older sister.

After California tells of the grim news to the Preston Family he is welcomed to stay at the farm for as long as he likes. Willy's sister Helen (who is played by Miguel Bosť's real life sister Paola) predictably falls in love with California and the two share a budding romance.... that is until Helen is kidnapped by the mean, nasty, terrible, ghastly and all around bad bounty hunter Whitaker.

California must saddle up and search for Helen even if he must side with the enemy to do it.


my take:

The film very much feels like three movies in one. You have the half hour relationship between California and Willy(which feels like the first part of a buddy movie), you have the sappy romance segment in the middle of the film and then you have the search party (which consist only of one man) stuff for the thrid act. Needless to stay the movie rambles here and there and perhaps it's a little too long for it's own good but it's a well crafted film with some very well done action sequences.

The fist fights are particularly excellent (Which is saying something in a genre that has some of the worst fist fights ever put to celluloid). During a scuffle you can be sure that wood planks, fences and even brick walls (!) will be destroyed to make way for the competitors to further duke it out without breaking a sweat or getting exhausted. It's all good fun until somebody is beaten to death or impaled by a stake, then it just becomes down right COOL.


The gunfights are equally nice, always taking place in some deserted ghost town with buildings that crumble at the firing of a bullet. I must point out that set designer Carlo Simi did his best work for this movie. All the ghost towns are especially spooky with muddy streets and ram shackled buildings. One set even includes craters on the town street formed by cannon fire during some recent battle.


Gemma is great as the loner known as California. He seems to have some sort of past that he wants to desperatly put behind him but we never quite find out what that past is (shades of his character in "and for a roof a skyful of stars") and we don't need to. It's not important. He tells us all we need to know about him through his performance.


William Berger has a small role as Willy Preston's father. For you Berger fans out there don't expect him to be shooting anybody or even take part in any action sequences. Fair warning.

The soundtrack is mostly mood music although there is an attempt to have some memorable score with the main title theme but it is an utter failure in the memorable department (shucks).

Director Michele Lupo made five other spaghetti westerns besides this one (three starring Gemma ). I have seen three of the five and so far this is his best effort. An enjoyable film, one of the last (if not THE last) good spaghetti westerns before the genre was buried on Boot Hill.

  Finally got round to slapping this in the dvd player and i concur with everything Firecracker says apart from the soundtrack which i thought was pretty memorable including some great grandois keyboard playing.
   I'm pretty sure that Lupo must have seen Clint Eastwoods Outlaw Josey Wales because  of the tone of this post civil war setting  from the weary , downtrodden  , defeated Confederates perspective,the Rope Whittaker character and gang reminded me very much of the redlegs in Clints and very much the ending where the hero is let off by the authorities.Even the young sidekick is murdered early on in both movies.
   I've watched Black Killer(awhile ago) but i'm gonna take another look so i can comment  O0


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on January 12, 2007, 02:13:06 AM
Review for "Black Killer"



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Thomas Weisser calls this a "text-book example of the genre" and for once he couldn't be more correct. This very entertiaining flick is a perfect example of the genre. A gritty "revenge for a slaughtered family" plot mixed with "corrupt town boss" schtick. It's violent, bloody and has some added quirk and nudity in it. A full lengthed role by Klaus Kinski is added for good measure.

A mysterious Man in black (Kinski) rides into the town of Tombstone. He says he is a lawyer named James Webb and carries a gaggle of thick law books around with him. He acquires himself a room at the local hotel and begins to take part in some shady conversations with the town judge. He is especially interested in some land that two mexican outlaws, inaccuratly called the "O'Hara brothers", have stolen.

When the O'Hara's kill a town sheriff, Webb wastes no time in dispatching some of their lackies using his pistols that are intricatly hidden inside his text books and are rigged to go off when he pulls on a book mark. Of course at this point we don't know why he does this nor do we know what he is up to. His motives are not revealed until the very end of the picture.

After the first twenty minutes another Stranger by the name of Burt Collins rides into town and Kinski's character takes a back seat throughout the rest of the picture (he is just shown sneaking around town dropping in on secret conversations held by some villains and shooting from his books when necessary), instead the film becomes the adventures of Burt Collins.

Burt has come to tombstone to visit his brother Peter who is living on the outskirts of town with his indian wife Sarah (another unusual name for a certain character). While Burt spends the night at Peter's house, the house is raided by the O'Hara brothers and Peter is killed. Sarah is brutally raped and Burt gets beaten to a Pulp and left for dead.
Both Burt and Sarah head to the O'hara's hideout for revenge.
The movie has a lot of female frontal nudity, mostly from a saloon girl named Consuelo but Sarah the indian girl shows her back side a few times as well (Nudity is a rare occasion in the genre).

Enjoyed the flick but I have a few minor gripes with it, first and foremost the costumes the O'Hara brothers wear, they have these really ridiculous color coordinated costumes that make them look like circus performers. One of the brothers (the red suited one) has a utility belt full of throwing knives, he only uses these once. The knives should have been a running theme and his death should have involved something with a knife as oppsed to just getting shot.

The very end (I won't get into details as not to spoil anything) shows the revenge driven hero (Burt) to be not so honest as one would expect. In fact his activities at the end make him seem indifferent to his brothers death.

otherwise great action packed film.

The actors:

Kinski is noteworthy as Webb, he brings this mystique to the film that few actors can accomplish.

Fred Robsahm plays Burt Collins very well. In fact I liked him for all the reasons Shobary (http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/black/killer.htm) didn't like him. Shoabry writes "  looks dirty and probably smells bad too". I think that's the whole point of a down and dirty spaghetti western hero but I guess it's different strokes for different folks (shrugs).

Marina Mulligan is cute a sassy as the Indian girl seeking revenge on the villians for killing her husband and raping her in the process. Surprisingly this remains to be mulligan's only contribution to cinema.


The Music:
I enjoyed the horror music esq. type tune for the "James Webb theme" but everything else is barely passable as an Italian western score.


Verdict: a solid spaghetti.
     Saw this again yesterday.Enjoyable,above average-but not that much- i think Kinski is miscast as the government pen pusher spending too much time lurking around offices sifting through legal paperwork etc and the number of times he has to open that damn book to reveal the hidden pistol pushes home the point too much-a gimmick that is overused MUCH TOO MUCH  and it gets annoying after awhile.
  Yes the O'Haras look ridicolous with their dodgy Engelbert Humperdinct hairdo's and mustaches together with Red Indian-like attire but theres no complaints here about the naked female lovelies.I agree about the soundtrack -it got off to a promising start but afterwards quite ordinary though adequate.
    I thought the pacing of the movie could've been upped abit-as i said above the Kinski scenes were tedious and the cosy wood shack scenes involving the hero's brother and Indian squaw also dragged  it  down.
   I'd give it 7 out of 10 O0


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on January 12, 2007, 03:58:17 PM
I had a problem with the surprise ending. It renders the heroe's efforts to extract revenge for his brother's death pointless. He was just after the money it seems.

Did you object to this bit as well Banjo?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on January 14, 2007, 10:47:47 AM
Did you object to this bit as well Banjo?
Yes not quite the way Col.Mortimer would've reacted ,but obviously the director's no Sergio Leone!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on January 26, 2007, 06:13:08 PM
     Saw this again yesterday.Enjoyable,above average-but not that much- i think Kinski is miscast as the government pen pusher spending too much time lurking around offices sifting through legal paperwork etc and the number of times he has to open that damn book to reveal the hidden pistol pushes home the point too much-a gimmick that is overused MUCH TOO MUCH  and it gets annoying after awhile.
  Yes the O'Haras look ridicolous with their dodgy Engelbert Humperdinct hairdo's and mustaches together with Red Indian-like attire but theres no complaints here about the naked female lovelies.I agree about the soundtrack -it got off to a promising start but afterwards quite ordinary though adequate.
    I thought the pacing of the movie could've been upped abit-as i said above the Kinski scenes were tedious and the cosy wood shack scenes involving the hero's brother and Indian squaw also dragged  it  down.
   I'd give it 7 out of 10 O0



just watched this last night... was fairly disappointed..

i am in agreement on the pacing of this movie.. particularly the scenes involving the brother/indian girl. actually, the indian girl annoyed the hell out of me the entire movie, except for when she was naked. and once she enters the film, she never leaves.

the directing was not bad.


the costumes.. yes, very bad indeed. one particular bad guy stands out in my mind.. he's only just some extra who's only purpose is to get shot, but he looks absolutely ridiculous. he's wearing what i remember looking like white pajamas, oversized looking boots, and the most ridiculous looking sombrero i've ever seen. granted, it was the smallest of roles, but that embodies my feelings for the costumes in this movie. the indian girl's outfit also drove me crazy

Quote from: Firecracker
I had a problem with the surprise ending. It renders the heroe's efforts to extract revenge for his brother's death pointless. He was just after the money it seems.

this bothered me also... its like he doesn't even care about his brother, at all

the action, while there was a fair amount of it, never really seemed to engage me

overall, i give it an: eh

 


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on January 26, 2007, 10:31:08 PM
Ah well what can I say?...I went in expecting very little so I guess I was surprised at how fun it turned out to be.

Pretty violent to!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: pixelated on January 27, 2007, 11:53:28 AM
Ah well what can I say?...I went in expecting very little so I guess I was surprised at how fun it turned out to be.

Pretty violent to!

yeah, i'm sure i was expecting a bit much from it... and it was also a bit of a rushed viewing.. had to pause it a few times to take care of some stuff... i'm sure i will enjoy it more on the 2nd go


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 06, 2007, 10:45:11 AM
Review for...

"Spara, Gringo spara!"

aka

"Shoot, Gringo... Shoot!"

"The Longest Hunt"

"Rainbow"

Directed by Bruno Corbucci


(http://www.fatmandan.de/EuroS/Image150.jpg)      (http://www.fatmandan.de/EuroS/Image151.jpg)

Sergio Corbucci's little brother (and at times writing partner), Bruno, directed three spaghetti westerns. This being one of them.


Infamous gunslinger, Chad Stark, (American tv actor Brain Kelly) is hired by a wealthy mexican rancher to hunt down and retrieve his son, Fidel, who has ran away from home to join up with an army of deadly outlaws. Fortunatly for Stark, the army is run by his long time, duck loving (I kid you not) friend Major Charlie Donaghen. After a quick reunion and some fancy wordplay, Stark dupes the Major into handing over Fidel so they both can prepare an ambush for a large shipment of gold being transported by train across the desert (all fabricated in Stark's mind to fool the Major into allowing him to travel with Fidel alone). Once far into the desert Stark ties up Fidel and begins to make the long journey back to the boy's father's Ranch where his reward is waiting. Fidel has other plans though. After a scuffle atop a sand dune (a particularly good fight scene for the genre's standards) Fidel gets free of Stark and heads off into the wilderness.
Eventually the Major realizes he has been made a fool of and heads after Stark with the intention of killing him for his treachery.
It all leads up to the SHOCKING finale.

Very similar to Sollima's "The Big Gundown" in that Stark frequently captures Fidel, only for the boy to escape (once) again by tricking him (much like Corbett and Cuchillo's misadventures in the aforementioned film). 
However unlike the Sollima film, the escapes and recaptures never get tiring and never border along the ridiculous (The "snake bite" scene in TBG comes to mind). Each set peice is fresh and new. One such set peice  takes place on a swinging bridge suspended above a canyon. This sort of thing would be more suitable in a 1930's adventure serial, but it's a fine addition here.
There are some frantic gunfights inbetween all this too!

Could have easily seen George Hilton in the role of Chad Stark (whom I would have preferred over Kelly) and some of the gunfights are sloppily edited but those are my only complaints.
Competant score by composer Sante Maria Romitelli. The music manages to be mildly memorable (light years ahead of his score for "God's Gun").

one of the genre's favorite actressess Erica Blanc makes a short appearence as a traveling farmer's daughter. Good to have her in the film as she is easy on my eyes.

A nice hidden gem that should be sought after!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on March 07, 2007, 09:04:51 AM
Are we gonna see a review for Sugar Colt?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 07, 2007, 08:00:28 PM
Are we gonna see a review for Sugar Colt?


Yes.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on March 08, 2007, 01:50:11 AM

Yes.
Good


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 12, 2007, 09:04:53 PM
Viewing "Today it's me, tomorrow you" right now.

It's a bit tough to sit through with the transfer I have but the film is okay. Nothing special. Won't be making this thread for a review I don't think.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on March 13, 2007, 06:12:37 AM
Viewing "Today it's me, tomorrow you" right now.

It's a bit tough to sit through with the transfer I have but the film is okay. Nothing special. Won't be making this thread for a review I don't think.
Is that the widescreen transfer you told me about? :-\


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on March 13, 2007, 12:17:25 PM






....And WHERE is this review for Sugar Colt you've been threatening us with FC?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 13, 2007, 06:25:29 PM
Is that the widescreen transfer you told me about? :-\



yeah, that one.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 21, 2007, 09:22:58 AM





....And WHERE is this review for Sugar Colt you've been threatening us with FC?


and WHERE is your patience?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on March 21, 2007, 10:14:34 AM
I was going to post my review for A Pistol for Ringo on "rate the last film you saw", but unfortunately, the last film i DID see was 300 (out of boredom, honest) and for which i refuse to rate or write a review...

A Pistol for Ringo or Una Pistora per Ringo is, in my opinion, one of the best spag westerns around... why?
Not only because it's a fun and humerous film, but because, aside from that it fits perfectly within the genre's elements, including the slightly less evil "hero" and the rather tenacious violent action scenes.  I loved how the characters all added a great deal of humor to the film.  Sancho's character was one of the most memorable villains one might encounter in a spag western or even a western in general, and Ringo's character, the one they call Angel Face, represented the opportunist and sarcastic character SW films were meant to portray.
Cinematography... O0
actors... O0 O0
plot and development... O0 O0
soundtrack... O0

overall, a memorable piece of work... deserving of a rating of 5/5 in my book



Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 21, 2007, 10:21:40 AM

 including the slightly less evil "hero"

Somebody has been copying and pasting Weisser's own words!

That is never a good thing :-\


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on March 21, 2007, 10:33:31 AM
Somebody has been copying and pasting Weisser's own words!
I suspect that Weisser had copied someone else's words anyway ;D


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on March 21, 2007, 01:14:56 PM
I suspect that Weisser had copied someone else's words anyway ;D

I don't think anyone else lies quite that much....save for maybe his cronie Ric Meyers.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on March 21, 2007, 08:12:35 PM
so technically, it's not plagiarism... i'm using words HE plagiarized (and subconsciously mind you)

i was making a rather sarcastic review of the film since FC kept insisting on me making one... what an ass :P
the words "slightly less evil hero" just popped into my head....

please find it in your hearts to forgive me  ;)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 21, 2007, 09:51:43 PM
Review for "Get Mean"

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Oddness ensues in this spaghetti western as everybodies favorite under dog of the genre "The Stranger", is hired by a witch to escort a princess to Spain. Once in Spain The Stranger must ward off evil Barbarians, a crazed Hunchback, a gay man(played by Anthony's brother), Lesbian warriors, a raging bull, magic and even spirits who want to turn him into a wolf ( ???  )  in order to escort the Princess back to her castle and collect his reward of 50,000 dollars. Unfortunatly for our poor anti-hero the princess is kidnapped by the leader of the barbarians, Diego(played by Raf Baldessare), and so The Stranger must rescue her. By the first hour of the film Anthony's character has been burnt, hung up by his feet, beaten down and roasted like a pig until finally he takes up his trusty four barreled shotgun, some dynamite and a jar full of scorpions and decides to GET MEAN!

This is the fourth and final flick in "The Stranger" series and it is easily the weakest(have not seen "Stranger in Japan"), however it still manages to be entertaining and worth a view or two. In fact the only dull moment I can think of is when Anthony must go through some sort of magical quest through a cave. The scene is silly and unfunny and gets old quickly.

As far as acting goes Anthony is in his usual bad acting form(which mysteriously took a hike during the filming of "Blindman") but that is part of Anthony's charm and one wonders if he is really that bad or he just acts bad to get a laugh. Either way his hammy performance works!

There is also an inspired role by Loyd Battista as a crazy hunchback who fancies himself a great shakespearean actor!

The editing and action is sub-par as opposed to the usual Baldi film. Usually he combines fast paced editing with equally frenetic action sequences, but here his professionalism kinda takes a hike and it is missed. But it all sort of holds together some how mostly due to Anthony's performance as the lovable rogue.

It is a real shame this movie did poorly in the cinema. The intention was that if "Get Mean" brought in the dough there would be more sequels that featured The Stranger as a time traveler.


Worth a view.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 21, 2007, 09:59:08 PM





....And WHERE is this review for Sugar Colt you've been threatening us with FC?



I had the GET MEAN review lying around elsewhere and decided to put it up before the SUGAR COLT review. Hope that isn't too much for you to handle Sonny!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on March 21, 2007, 10:30:17 PM

I had the GET MEAN review lying around elsewhere and decided to put it up before the SUGAR COLT review. Hope that isn't too much for you to handle Sonny!

oh no, not that!! anything but that!! please spare me!!! 
it's just something my mind has not been trained to handle....please have mercy...

btw, nice review, as always... O0


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on March 22, 2007, 10:01:56 AM
Lesbian warriors
Eh?
Well if they're anything like the two lovelies in Vampyres i'd better finish this movie ;D


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on March 22, 2007, 03:44:34 PM
Eh?
Well if they're anything like the two lovelies in Vampyres i'd better finish this movie ;D


Their not.


If I recall correctly Anthony makes a derogatory statement about them...



"God damn, they got some ugly women in this country".


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on March 23, 2007, 04:52:16 AM
"God damn, they got some ugly women in this country".
Ah realistic lesbians!! ;D

Thanks for the warning :D


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on March 28, 2007, 10:41:05 PM
<<...And still no review for Sugar Colt..>>


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 05, 2007, 08:16:16 PM
Review for... Johnny Oro


(http://films.psychovision.net/critique/ringo-au-pistolet-d-or-425/jak.jpg)

(http://www.bloopers.it/images/locandine/00000-04999/bloopers4972.jpg)

AKA Ringo and His Golden Pistol



After directing the rather tame Minnesota Clay, Sergio Corbucci's next western project was a, surprisingly, violent entry to the italian western genre and also a semi-homage to Richard Boone's "Palladin". Johnny Oro stars Mark Damon as the over-confident, smart mouthed, bounty hunting anti-hero of the film's title.

Johnny Oro, famous bounty hunter who carries a golden pistol and spurs, guns down notorious outlaw Sancho Perez for some reward money. Juanito Perez, Sancho's seemingly innocent little brother, wants to avenge his sibling's death and hires an entire tribe of cut throat Apaches to track down Oro and kill him. Unfortunatly for Oro, after a little mishap with some explosives, he has been incarcerated by the Sheriff of the border town of Coldstone. So now the Sheriff and a few townsfolks must defend the jailhouse (holding Oro) against the rampaging red skins.


This is certainly an enjoyable film. Miles ahead of Corbucci's first western effort Minnesota Clay (significant for preceding Leone's "Fistful of Dollars" by a few months). The Corbucci touch is not quite there yet but we see more than just a few hints of it here. For one, the violence. Women and children are brutally murdered on-screen, corpses are used as shields against bullets and outlaws are blown to bits. This is unusual for a spaghetti western made so early in the game. You can expect this kind of stuff after the release of the monumental Django (Corbucci's next picture) but it's difficult to find such outlandish violence before it. The light heartedness of the picture makes the violence even more unsettling, much like in Pistol for Ringo and the MacGregor films.



Damon plays Johnny as a cocky smart ass whose quick on the draw and only interest is gold. This is similar to his character in Johnny Yuma (his attitude not his motives), a spaghetti western that was made the same year. He does fine in this film. Though I think his hero characters are too light. He plays a much better villian (see Kill and Pray). 

I have a few gripes. The segment between Oro getting captured and the Apaches finally arriving to kill him can get a bit draggy in places. Also there is a saloon whore (Oro's main squeeze) that has a singing segment. Saloon whores in westerns breaking into song is always a minus for me. It's pointless and it slows down the film.

Before the film's release, the title of Johnny Oro was changed to "Ringo and his golden Pistol" to capitilize on the major success of the two "Ringo" movies (both directed by Duccio Tessari and both starring Giuliano Gemma). In the english dub Oro's character is referred to as "Johnny Ringo". To make matters even more confusing the italian language theme song retains the character's original name during production (Johnny Oro) but this is not so in the english language theme song.

The music, composed by Carlo Savina, is very nice. The theme song harks back to a Gene Autry type cowboy tune while the instrumental tracks are full of bells and whistles. 

Recommended for newbies and hard-core fans alike.

 


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 06, 2007, 06:43:46 AM
Ace review Firecracker! O0

For anyone in the UK they regularly screen the "Ringo & His Golden Pistol" version (in pan & scan) on the TCM sattelite channel,usually about 5am in the morning.

A likeable early Corbucci effort though the finale was predictable and the final gun duel has a silly twist! ;)

 


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 06, 2007, 09:07:53 AM
Ace review Firecracker! O0

For anyone in the UK they regularly screen the "Ringo & His Golden Pistol" version (in pan & scan) on the TCM sattelite channel,usually about 5am in the morning.

A likeable early Corbucci effort though the finale was predictable and the final gun duel has a silly twist! ;)

 


The francocleef dvd includes a violent scene that is missing from all english language versions and probably from the telly version.


I wonder why Alex Cox praises films like the terrible Django Kill and chastises this movie to no end (he doesn't even like" Giu La Testa").


I don't think the final showdown had a silly twist. It was a welcome  gag. I would have been dissapointed if Johnny just some how beat Juanito to the draw. Besides, silly or not, it fit with the movie's light hearted tone.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 06, 2007, 11:42:47 AM
Here's my review from way back on ORO. Glad you liked it, FC! I'll post my AND GOD SAID TO CAIN alongside yours once you've posted it.

JOHNNY ORO(RINGO & HIS GOLDEN PISTOL)-Not sure why this movie gets so much negative press as I found it highly entertaining. Mark Damon, like Guiliano Gemma, is very agile in the many action scenes and  is very good in the role of ORO who has many skills besides the gun. In it, Oro kills all but one of the Perez brothers(because there was no price on his head)who swears revenge and sides with the Apache Indians who want to take back the land stolen from them by the americans. Truckloads of one-liners abound in this one and one helluva' finale close it out. This being a Corbucci movie there are several scenes of, IMO, fairly extreme violence although none committed on the hero as compared to other Corbucci westerns. Much better than MINNESOTA CLAY. This is definitely a popcorn spaghetti as much fun and excitement is to be had here.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: cigar joe on April 06, 2007, 09:59:48 PM
Inferno Bianco (White Hell) Anybody ever hear of this?

(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9360/88428fd8.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzyPote_piw&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b



Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 07, 2007, 07:09:32 AM
I wonder why Alex Cox praises films like the terrible Django Kill and chastises this movie to no end (he doesn't even like" Giu La Testa").
Yes he suggests that Giancarlo Santi(director of Grand Duel) would have made a better job of Duck You Sucker :o
He undoubtably knows his stuff so i guess its all down to personal taste-he doesn't like Jonathan oF The Bears either!  :(


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 07, 2007, 07:14:30 AM
Inferno Bianco (White Hell) Anybody ever hear of this?

(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9360/88428fd8.jpg)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzyPote_piw&feature=RecentlyWatched&page=1&t=t&f=b


Definately obscure-nothing on IMDB.com about director or movie!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: cigar joe on April 07, 2007, 09:20:56 AM
Its fairly new.

http://infernobianco.spazioblog.it/


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 07, 2007, 09:56:43 AM
Its fairly new.

http://infernobianco.spazioblog.it/


Isn't this a student film that was made about two years ago?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: cigar joe on April 07, 2007, 09:58:36 AM
don't know just stumbled across it.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 07, 2007, 10:01:53 AM
don't know just stumbled across it.


Well it's safe t say this was neevr released theatrically anywhere. Maybe a straight to dvd release.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 07, 2007, 02:21:34 PM
Yes he suggests that Giancarlo Santi(director of Grand Duel) would have made a better job of Duck You Sucker :o


Jugding by the well done action scenes in THE GRAND DUEL I can see how this can so for the battle scenes in DUCK YOU SUCKER. That Bridge ambush gundown is hopelessly bland.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 07, 2007, 03:26:37 PM
Yes he suggests that Giancarlo Santi(director of Grand Duel) would have made a better job of Duck You Sucker :o
He undoubtably knows his stuff so i guess its all down to personal taste-he doesn't like Jonathan oF The Bears either!  :(

According to Antonio Margheriti Santi and some others handled Leone's action scenes on his films as Leone reportedly was not very good at directing action scenes.

I didn't care much for JONATHAN OF THE BEARS either. Awful movie. The only reason I'd watch it again would be for the stunning cinematography.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but excellent spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 16, 2007, 12:56:52 AM
Review for
And God said to Cain


(http://www.antoniomargheriti.com/images/Dio%20disse%20a%20caino/caino02.jpg)



After enduring ten years of hard labor for a crime he did not commit, Gary Hamilton (Klaus Kinski) is given a a presidential pardon (preposterous, but who cares?) and is let out of prison. After ten years of shoveling and smashing rocks in the hot sun there is only one thing on his mind, revenge. Revenge on Acombar, the man who framed him. Gary soon finds out that this  same man is now the wealthiest land baron in the territory and is also sleeping with his wife. Gary purchases a rifle and (with what seems to be a never ending supply of bullets) sets out to extract his revenge on Acombar. But before Gary can get to him he must face 30 of Acombar's bodyguards during a conveinantly well timed tornado at night.

Antonio Margheriti (better known as Anthony Dawson or Anthony S. Dawson) returns to his horror roots to direct this suspenseful revenge story.
The movie has some fabulous atmosphere. The character of Gary Hamilton is treated as a supernatural by the villains. Wind picks up whenever he appears, animals make strange noises when his name is uttered and his arrival is signified by a threatening Tornando. This all adds to the horror element of the movie (also the fact that a large portion of the film takes place at night).

It's a good little western with a few atypical twists. However it doesn't all go off without a hitch. There is a very nasty pacing problem during the 45 minute storm segment where Hamilton hunts down each and every one of the villain's gunmen. Hamilton does this by firing from windows then ducking before the return fire reaches him and by firing his rifle from holes on the ground when down in a tunnel system under the town's buildings.
This goes on for quite awhile. I'm sure you can agree with me when I say there is nothing more dull than some prick hiding behind a barrel and randomly picking off people every now and again. I Hate to see that in westerns.
It's alright if it's used once or twice but when several action scenes are devoted to it for long periods of time something is certainly wrong.

In it's defense there are some really creative death scenes, an interesting use of a church bell as a weapon is of particular mention, however there is a severe lack of them overall. Too bad.
I also thought that the virtually non-existant tornado should have played a larger role in the film as opposed to making a few cameo appearences as a gust of wind every now and again (they had a nice dust devil effect in "Matalo!". Why not here?). Perhaps the twister could have taken out a few baddies? mmm? Just a thought.

The cast is a good one. Kinski stars as the anti-hero Hamilton. It's almost a sick joke casting Klaus Kinski as a hero. The famous actor played mostly villains throughout his entire career and I have yet to see him playing a good guy in a spaghetti western. I suppose he liked the role because he would usually snag a part where he was on set for as little time as possible for as much money as possible.

Peter Carsten as the greedy Acombar does his job as a slimy no good and the pretty Marcella Michelangeli is unforgivable as Hamilton's cheating wife.

Composer Carlo Savina makes a good soundtrack here. I really like the title theme.

Despite it's faults And God Said To Cain is a welcome addition to any spaghetti western library and worth picking up.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 16, 2007, 10:07:47 AM
AND GOD SAID TO CAIN- 1969-Excellent and well shot gothic horror western from director Antonio Margheriti who imbues elements of his previous horror pictures like CASTLE OF BLOOD and THE VIRGIN OF NUREMBERG into this film about a man wrongly imprisoned who gets out and seeks revenge on the men who put him there. Most of the film takes place during a tornado with the coming storm symbolic of the vengeful manís return. The fact that a good portion of the film takes place during a massive wind storm is inspired enough but Margheriti also adds touches of horror in some of the death scenes and the protagonist, who uses a rifle as opposed to the usual pistols, gets about town by way of tunnels leaves the impression with the villains that he is a ghost. Best of all this film gives famous actor Klaus Kinski the chance to play a hero for a change.  Enough original elements to warrant a recommendation.

Here's my review from way back. Glad somebody else appreciates this one as well. Compared with what else was coming out at the time, this western was very innovative. Margheriti was a fine choice as he started off doing horror and a couple of sci-fi pictures before doing Italian westerns. Kinski would also play Edgar Allen Poe in WEB OF THE SPIDER, Margheriti's color remake of his own CASTLE OF BLOOD.

The reason Kinski's roles are often very limited or his screen time very brief was because the production could only afford his services for a limited amount of time. He would take the role that payed the most money regardless of the size of the role. Case in point, the popular 1985 William Malone movie CREATURE aka TITAN FIND, Kinski plays the horny German astronaut who becomes possessed by the Alien creature. The crew could only afford him for three days and his last couple of scenes were finished by another actor. Although these scenes required Kinski's character to be under a bit of creature makeup, it's obvious the actor is younger looking than Kinski.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 16, 2007, 03:37:45 PM
I remember there was quite a heated discussion here about And God Said To Cain a while back-something about it being a tv movie? :o

Far from it,i think its Margheriti's best  and i love the blend of sw/horror and this movie has a great  tension and atmosphere.Good to see Kinski showing his versatility by assuming the "hero's" role here.

All i need to see now is a proper widescreen print of it.  ;)

Very recommended!!! O0


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 16, 2007, 03:41:48 PM
Here ya are Banjo!

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/said-cainfranco-cleef-reconstruction-dvdr-p-7511.html


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 16, 2007, 03:43:36 PM
I remember there was quite a heated discussion here about And God Said To Cain a while back-something about it being a tv movie? :o




That thread has recently been bumped back up in honor of my new review. Perhaps we can further the discussion there.


The T.V. movie theory is ridiculous. It has the same budget as any other show string spaghetti western.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 16, 2007, 03:44:38 PM
Here ya are Banjo!

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/said-cainfranco-cleef-reconstruction-dvdr-p-7511.html


The  ;) emoticon was to signify that he is waiting the arrival of his copy from me.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 16, 2007, 03:45:55 PM

That thread has recently been bumped back up in honor of my new review. Perhaps we can further the discussion there.


The T.V. movie theory is ridiculous. It has the same budget as any other show string spaghetti western.
Old wounds about to be reopened i suspect! ;D

I definately need to watch it through again though.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 16, 2007, 03:48:21 PM

The  ;) emoticon was to signify that he is waiting the arrival of his copy from me.
Shhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

Can the Feds touch me in the UK? :'( ;D

EDIT:in fact i'm sure FC's buying the official one for me. :)

Phew!!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 16, 2007, 04:12:46 PM


EDIT:in fact i'm sure FC's buying the official one for me. :)

Phew!!


Yeah of course! That's what I'm doing!


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on April 17, 2007, 08:11:35 PM

Saw Day of Anger yesterday... more like finally finished it... ;D Unfortunately I had to watch it in about three intervals. 

Surprisingly enough, I was still able to enjoy the film and its characters.

It's one I certainly enjoyed and recommend to anyone who likes Gemma and Van Cleef, especially since the two work very well together.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: cigar joe on April 17, 2007, 09:23:59 PM
Didn't say it was a TV movie but it it plays to me like a TV movie not very cinnematic in my opion.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 17, 2007, 09:35:19 PM
did you agree with the review Joe?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: cigar joe on April 17, 2007, 11:09:57 PM
Quote
did you agree with the review Joe?

Pretty much, my big gripe is that it basically lacks vast landscapes, which are to me anyway, a big important ingredient in Westerns. It feels kind of claustrophobic for a Western like its all shot on a sound stage.

Its the same gripe I have about "The Quick & The Dead" besides it being bad overall it doesn't have any Western landscape (save for the very beginning). You can go to the other extreme also where there is too much landscape, and no atmospheric delivering shanty towns, saloons or other touchstones of the West, most of the frontier epics like "Man in The Wilderness", "A Man Called Horse", "Jerimiah Johnson", and a lot of hunt & chase Westerns suffer from this.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 18, 2007, 12:00:50 AM
Pretty much, my big gripe is that it basically lacks vast landscapes, which are to me anyway, a big important ingredient in Westerns. It feels kind of claustrophobic for a Western like its all shot on a sound stage.




Well, it's a thriller/suspense movie at heart. Thrillers tend to give the sense of claustrophobia. I don't think sweeping landscapes would have fit this movie at all. Too dark anyway. You wouldn't be able to see them at night (where most of the action here takes place).


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on April 19, 2007, 11:21:48 PM

 Thrillers tend to give the sense of claustrophobia.

WooW...do they? What kind of thrillers do you watch, may I ask?


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 20, 2007, 06:41:17 AM
Yes like Firecracker says Margheritti obviously wasn't aiming And God Said To Cain to be The Big Country.It has much more in common with horror films than any American western showcasing vast sprawling landscapes and Margheritti's  choice of claustrophobic dark locations suits the mood perfectly.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 23, 2007, 04:53:02 PM
reviews coming soon...

One After another
Sugar Colt
The Moment to Kill
Clint the Neveda Stranger
Return of Clint the stranger


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 24, 2007, 06:26:34 AM
reviews coming soon...

One After another
Sugar Colt
The Moment to Kill
Clint the Neveda Stranger
Return of Clint the stranger
OK FC,i'll check out (again)the top 3 O0


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on April 26, 2007, 11:08:42 AM
reviews coming soon...

One After another
Sugar Colt
The Moment to Kill
Clint the Neveda Stranger
Return of Clint the stranger

Good.  Just make sure you mention which are "commendable" and which are "obscure"  ;D


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Banjo on April 27, 2007, 04:17:41 PM
Saw ONE AFTER THE AFTER yesterday which stars a bespecticled Richard Harrison who as usual was as dull and uninspired as is the rest of the movie but i'll wait for FC's review before i comment further. ;)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on April 27, 2007, 05:56:59 PM
Saw ONE AFTER THE AFTER yesterday which stars a bespecticled Richard Harrison who as usual was as dull and uninspired as is the rest of the movie but i'll wait for FC's review before i comment further. ;)


really? I thought this was a fine piece of pasta.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on July 19, 2007, 04:22:33 AM
Review for
"The Return of Ringo"

(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/reviews/return_of_ringo.jpg)


After the grand success of the first Ringo film starring Guliano Gemma, "A Pistol For Ringo", director Duccio Tessari quickly made a the follow-up film which was released in the same year as the original.

This follow-up film isn't really a sequel at all though. In fact the only similarities are the main characters name, Ringo (Actually his real name is Montgomery Brown and goes by the nickname "Ringo" this is reversed in the first film because in that his real name is Ringo but he goes by a nickname), and the whole cast of the original is back in similar roles. With one exception. George Martin, who played the righteous sheriff in the original, is now the film's ruthless villain alongside Fernando Sancho.

(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/ringo2/ringo2_gemma.jpg)

The two films are very different. The original was a shoot em' up whilst this one is a build up movie. Their isn't much shooting until the big finale. That's not to say this is a boring film. No. It is deliberatly paced and keeps you enthralled with it's story about a soldier (Gemma) returning home from war only to find that his hometown is not what it used to be.
A ruthless mexican family, The Fuentes, have taken over the western town and rule it by fear. Even the head of the Fuentes family, Paco Fuentes (George Martin who is rather convincing as a hispanic, believe it or not), has forced Ringo's wife into marrying him after telling her Ringo died in the war.

Ringo doesn't like this one bit and aims to save his wife and rid the town of the Mexicans once and for all. He does this by going undercover, dressed as a mexican peon, and bides his time until he can discover a weakness in the mexican's defenses.

(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/ringo2/ringo2_07.jpg)

The film is much darker than it's light hearted counter-part.
For instance, there is a scene where Ringo nearly murders his spouse, after believing she was unfaithful, but halts from killing her because he finds out she birthed a child (His kid folks, not the mexican's).

The film is certainly a classic of the genre and their isn't hardly anything to complain about except one major disappointment. The final extended gunfight is a bit of a let-down (at least this reviewer thought so).
It's just so flat in every way, and this is bizarre because Tessari's other action films sport some fine looking action sequences and set peices.
 Now it's not to say it is all bad. Frankly their is some good stuff in it but as a whole it is an unimaginative mess.
Also George Martin is treated as the main heavy whilst the brilliant Sancho is side-lined. I don't agree with this myself but I am a Sancho fan so I'm biast.


(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/ringo2/ringo2_10.jpg)


Morricone's music here actually surpasses the brilliant soundtrack for the original "Ringo" movie. I believe the only track from Pistol For Ringo that holds a candle to Return of Ringo's music is maybe "The Slaughter" (which is actually used very badly in that picture).

(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/ringo2/ringo2_01.jpg)

I prefer the first one really. In fact it sits on my top 20 list somewhere. However I cannot deny that the "sequel" is an excellent picture.
This movie is highly recommended by me.
8/10 O0


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on February 07, 2008, 10:33:44 PM
Review for
BURY THEM DEEP

Captain Clive Norton (Craig Hill) is appointed, by his superior officer, to track down and retrieve gold that was stolen from an army convoy by the bandit Billy 'The Gun' (Giovanni Cianfriglia alias Ken Wood). Norton requests the partnership of tracker Chaleco Hunter (Etorre Manni) to aid him in his mission but is denied due to Hunter being court marshalled and sentenced to hang for war crimes. Not too surprisingly, Norton goes against his superior's wishes and rescues Chaleco during his execution ceremony and the two set out to seek out Billy 'The Gun' and get back the stolen gold.
This spaghetti outing is entertaining but it tends to frustrate all too often. Its story can be told within 45 minutes, and by the time you've reached the 60 minute mark it becomes all too clear the filmmakers did all they could to milk it for all it was worth. There are far too many scenes of characters (mostly the two protagonists) riding around on horseback for several minutes at a time. No dialogue exchanges are present during these segments and to add insult to injury we're subjected to irritating marching music as the characters take their time to ride off frame.
Another thing that irked me is after saving Chaleco, Norton doesn't reveal who he wants tracked down. He deliberately withholds the information for no apparent reason at all, allowing a long and pointless segment of an uninterested Chaleco trying to escape from the Captain's rifle range. Eventually Norton does reveal that they are after Billy 'The Gun', a man Chaleco has some personal beef with. One wonders why Cap'n Norton didn't just tell Chaleco who they were after in the first place? It would have saved him the hassle of Chaleco trying to ditch him.
The director even lifted clips from another western ("The Taste of Killing", also starring Craig Hill) to fill in some more time. Spaghetti veterans will tell you the lifted footage can be found during the opening stagecoach robbery as well as a few shots sprinkled throughout the opening credits.
If action is all your looking for, then I guess you can't go wrong. There are plenty of shootouts and poorly choreographed fist fights (ya know? The usual stuff). Most of the action scenes are pretty poor but at least we get a knife fight in the mud! Knife fights are sorely lacking in this genre so it's always nice to see one.
As for the acting, Craig Hill does his usual posturing and Manni brings nothing new to tired "less than trustworthy side-kick" role. Cianfriglia plays a formidable bad guy and does stand out from the main three leads but it's the stuntmen that really steal the show here. Those guys had balls of steel! In one scene their diving off balconies and crashing through roofs, in another scene their falling off ledges and hitting the ground hard.
The music is pleasent (except for that puke-worthy marching/whistling music during the filler scenes) but there isn't one tune you'll remember after ejecting the movie from your player.
Fanboys with sharp eyes will recognize Spaghetti regulars Jose Torres and Lorenzo Robledo in crowd scenes.
They each have unusual split second screen times.
My copy runs 93 minutes. I've done a bit of research (you can't say your not getting your moneys worth) and apparently there is a 109 minute version floating around somewhere. Whoa! No thanks. This was long enough.
For completists only.
4/10


 


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 12, 2008, 11:56:54 PM
Watched PISTOL again recently (showed it to my mom) and although the tone is more serious, I think the violence is stronger in PISTOL.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on February 12, 2008, 11:57:31 PM
Watched PISTOL again recently (showed it to my mom) and although the tone is more serious, I think the violence is stronger in PISTOL.

I agree but RETURN is grittier.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 12, 2008, 11:59:45 PM
yeah, that's what I meant in my above post that the tone was more serious in RETURN but I didn't specify. :P


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 13, 2008, 12:05:51 AM
Wait a minute, RETURN OF RINGO isn't obscure! Maybe to mainstream audiences it would be but not to fans of the genre. ;)


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on February 13, 2008, 12:19:03 AM
Wait a minute, RETURN OF RINGO isn't obscure! Maybe to mainstream audiences it would be but not to fans of the genre. ;)

Would you like me change the title of this thread?

I re-edited my "Bury Them Deep" review.


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 13, 2008, 12:27:20 AM
Would you like me change the title of this thread?

I re-edited my "Bury Them Deep" review.

No, I was just giving you a hard time. You can if you want to.......I would if it were me........but it's your thread.........but if it were mine I'd change it.........but it's yours so you do what you want.....................all I'm saying is that I'd change it if it were my thread..............but it's not................. :D


Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: Sonny on February 13, 2008, 12:54:03 PM

I think the title should be something like "Obscure Westerns to Consider Watching on Days When You're Bored Out of Your Mind and Have Absolutely Nothing Else to Kill Your Time of Existence With."
 
Yes, I think that's a winner  O0



Title: Re: reviews for obscure but commendable spaghetti westerns
Post by: The Firecracker on February 14, 2008, 01:37:51 AM
Review for
Light the fuse...Sartana is coming!


This is hard to recommend. Not because it is bad, far from it, but because it is a Sartana picture and a lot of people don't dig those movies. People that put this series off are usually soulless grumps who never had a childhood. It's the gimicky, off beat nature of the series that scare these individuals away. The films are less like westerns and more like mad cap comic book stories, and this particular entry happens to be the goofiest of them all.
The plot is the usual complicated yarn we've come to expect from the series. A deal to sell 1/2 a million dollars in gold for 2 million in counterfeit money is set by two shady baddies. The deal goes sour, the two parties end up dead and the loot goes missing. When Sartana arrives on the scene the whole town is already in an uproar, searching for the missing booty. The main contenders being the town sheriff, a widow, a one eyed drifter and a small army of cut-throat bandits led by a peculiar character named Monk. Sartana plays all sides in order to locate the hiding place of the cash and take down as many villains as possible along the way. You might think this sounds like the same old shtick previously seen in the earlier entries, and you'd be correct. It's essentially the same movie as the others but it's not like that is a bad thing. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Besides, there is enough new stuff to keep things fresh.
This time Sartana has a whole new array of weapons and gadgets to help achieve the largest body count in the entire Sartana series! The most bizarre of them all comes in the form of a miniature, totem pole looking, robot named "Alfie" (a reference to Michael Caine who played the anti-James Bond in The Ipcress Files). Alfie's main function is a cigarette lighter but it soon becomes apparent that it can be programmed to kill!
Sartana also has a church organ that, in a scene reminiscent of Django revealing what was inside his coffin, becomes a deadly surprise to Monk's army of bandits. The Organ's surprise functions, which I won't give away here, are very similar to a piano's during a second season episode of The Wild Wild West. I'll bet money one of the screen writers (Tito Carpi, Ernesto Gastaldi and Eduardo Manzanos Brochero. Take your pick) lifted the idea from that episode. Sartana's trademark pepperbox pistol is sorely missing (only the sheriff has one), replaced by a revolver.
In the earlier films of the series, Sartana was something of an other-worldly gunslinger that couldn't be wounded or killed. They decided to make him a bit more human for this one as he does get a beating early in the first act. The movie also marks the first time Garko changes clothes in the series. He wears a white robe during a bathhouse sequence ( A bath house in a western? I know! SooooooOOOOOOOooooooo Italian!). It is also a first, and last, time for the series to have portions of the movie filmed in Almeria. The original three and that sole entry starring George Hilton went to quarry pits, outside of Rome, for their exterior shots.
The cast is expansive but it never feels like they fit too many characters for the movie's own good (Heads you die, Tails I kill you). It always does a particular muscle in my body good to see Nieves Navarro play a sexy Femme Fatale. Piero Lulli always enhances everything he's in and Mara Krupp has a very funny role as a hotel clerk. You'll recognise her from For a Few Dollars More, she is the hotel owner's wife. Ya know? The lady with the big jugs and the uhhh.... unfortunate face.
You also have Franco Pesce "reprising" his role as the town's crazy old timer who is the only ally Sartana acquires.
The actor that stands out the most is of course Garko. The man had a presence most actors would crave for today. He plays a more comical Sartana in this one. A little less of the dry wit seen in Have a good funeral. He's showing more teeth in this one.
Bruno Nicolai belts out another rousing score but it doesn't quite reach the excellence of Have a good funeral my friend, Sartana will pay's soundtrack.
Proclaiming that a certain movie doesn't have a dull moment in it has become a tiresome cliche but this movie manages to stay true to that comment. There really isn't a dull moment in the whole picture. Whether it be smirking at a campy looking outfit one of the more flamboyant of Monk's gang members would be wearing or Sartana pole volting onto his trusty steed, your eyes will be glued to the screen and your ass will remain firmly on your seat. Unless, of course, you ignore that little child deep inside you.
The one error in this, otherwise, perfect pop corn flick is the lack of a formidable villain for Sartana to fight. You never get a sense that any of the baddies could out draw Sartana. The first Sartana outing isn't my favorite but at least it had a great nemesis (William Berger as Lasky).
Of course, that is a minor complaint and it won't effect the excellent rating this movie deserves.
This is Carnimeo's crowning achievement and Garko's most shining hour.
This is one instance where they saved the best for last.
10/10