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Title: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 16, 2006, 09:59:06 AM
That's what the Colonel says to Il monco after having shot him at the neck is the Bank of El Paso' reward for retrieving the stolen money. But how's he able to know that as the heist was just a few minutes before?


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Tim on August 16, 2006, 10:32:04 AM
  Previous experience?  Or maybe he asked the bank manager when he was grilling him about the security at the El Paso bank. 


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: dave jenkins on August 16, 2006, 11:38:02 AM
Maybe the bank has a scale of rewards: 10,000 for a lone gunmen, 20,000 for small gangs, 40,000 for large gangs run by a complete madman.........


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 16, 2006, 02:12:28 PM
All of that of course can't be, as the Bank can't tell prospect clients that it can be heisted.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Tim on August 17, 2006, 10:35:06 AM
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All of that of course can't be, as the Bank can't tell prospect clients that it can be heisted.

  Ok, then, I'll let you in on a secret.  Colonel Mortimer can read minds so he just read the bank manager's mind about the reward.  It's a little known deleted scene that didn't make the final cut that reveals Mortimer's secret.   ;D


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 17, 2006, 03:11:05 PM
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Ok, then, I'll let you in on a secret.

I'll let you in on another:  you're not funny.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 17, 2006, 04:00:56 PM
I'll let you in on another:  you're not funny.

Do you always have to be such a jerk?

Tim was just playing around for God's sakes! What's your problem?


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 17, 2006, 04:13:10 PM
I see you make a point to be true to your nick. As you're still a kid (or pretending being such: sure you behave like one) let me give you a piece of advice: mind your own business.  And be it clear that, if there's one "jerk" around, that is your father who allows you to make use of a PC without supervisioning you.

About what Tim was trying to do he probably is the only one who knows it. Anyway there's no reason why he should come doing it in my thread: he can open up one of his own and horse around as much as he likes.

 


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 17, 2006, 04:23:21 PM
I see you make a point to be true to your nick. As you're still a kid (or pretending being such: sure you behave like one) let me give you a piece of advice: mind your own business.  And be it clear that, if there's one "jerk" around, that is your father who allows you to make use of a PC without supervisioning you.

About what Tim was trying to do he probably is the only one who knows it. Anyway there's no reason why he should come doing it in my thread: he can open up one of his own and horse around as much as he likes.

 

Titoli, you're the only member here that goes out of their way to insult other people and that's just wrong!

I speak to Tim sometimes and he's a very nice guy. He just made an off-topic joke and you insult him!

 I've had enough of your bullying around here. You might not consider yourself to be a bully...but a person who goes out of their way to hurt another person or insult them IS a bully. I know it's an old saying but, if you don't have anything nice to say about someone...don't say anything.





And by the way...you have a problem with me that's okay.

But don't you dare bring my father into this you arrogant jerk!!!!  >:(


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Amaze on August 17, 2006, 04:25:16 PM
all I see is an innocent joke  :-\


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 17, 2006, 04:39:04 PM
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Titoli, you're the only member here that goes out of their way to insult other people and that's just wrong!

Can't remember having insulted anybody at anytime. Only time I did it was because I was called a "jerk".

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I've had enough of your bullying around here.


That's my favourite pastime. Want to take it away from me?

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And by the way...you have a problem with me that's okay.


Don't give yourself so many airs.

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But don't you dare bring my father into this you arrogant jerk!!!! 


Again.

 



Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 17, 2006, 04:46:23 PM
Can't remember having insulted anybody at anytime. Only time I did it was because I was called a "jerk".
 

That's my favourite pastime. Want to take it away from me?
 

Don't give yourself so many airs.
 

Again.

 



Whatever. Anytime someone catches you insulting someone you just deny it or say you were kidding. I'm tired of it, and I'm one of the few people who's not afraid to stand up and say something to you!

I'm still not forgetting what you said about my father. You think you can just brush it aside, well I'm not going to forget it!

Why don't you try being nice to people for a change instead of looking down on everyone like you're some kind of freakin' martyr?


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 17, 2006, 05:04:25 PM
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Whatever. Anytime someone catches you insulting someone you just deny it or say you were kidding. I'm tired of it, and I'm one of the few people who's not afraid to stand up and say something to you!

You're telling me I'm the Fuehrer of the board? Do the moderators know it?

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I'm still not forgetting what you said about my father. You think you can just brush it aside, well I'm not going to forget it!

I said about your father the word you said to me a few lines before. In spite of what you affirm, you have a tendency to forget quickly. Try to read what you write and also re-read sometime what you wrote. 

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Why don't you try being nice to people for a change instead of looking down on everyone like you're some kind of freakin' martyr?


A martyr in a virtual movie board? What's that supposed to mean?


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 17, 2006, 05:09:44 PM
I said about your father the word you said to me a few lines before. In spite of what you affirm, you have a tendency to forget quickly. Try to read what you write and also re-read sometime what you wrote. 

I know what I said! I called you a jerk because you just out of nowhere insulted Tim...maybe YOU are the one who should re-read what they've written and maybe you'll see that you always have this attitude towards everyone.

And just because you think I'm a horrible little brat who has offended you, don't take it out on my father!  >:(  He's a great man who raised me properly and you have nothing to say about him!


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 17, 2006, 05:33:02 PM
I never knew saying to one he's not funny it equals insulting him. My english fails me here, apparently. Sorry.



Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Groggy on August 18, 2006, 07:16:13 AM
  Ok, then, I'll let you in on a secret.  Colonel Mortimer can read minds so he just read the bank manager's mind about the reward.  It's a little known deleted scene that didn't make the final cut that reveals Mortimer's secret.   ;D

Was this before or after the scene with the gang trying to break into the bank's ATM machine?  ;)


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Christopher on August 18, 2006, 10:34:17 AM
Let's cool it down a bit, everyone.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: cigar joe on August 18, 2006, 01:46:10 PM
Back to subject:

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That's what the Colonel says to Il monco after having shot him at the neck is the Bank of El Paso' reward for retrieving the stolen money. But how's he able to know that as the heist was just a few minutes before?


I seem to remember that outfits like Wells Fargo & Co., Butterfield Overland Stage Co., various railroads, and banks put out general notices stating reward amounts offered for the arrest & conviction or pecentages of the stolen amounts for the recovery of money etc., etc.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Tim on August 18, 2006, 01:53:44 PM
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About what Tim was trying to do he probably is the only one who knows it. Anyway there's no reason why he should come doing it in my thread: he can open up one of his own and horse around as much as he likes.

  titoli, I'm sorry if I messed up your thread, like everyone said it was just an innocent joke, and I didn't intend to piss everyone off like this. I made a joke, apparently a bad one, and I'm sorry once again if your thread was thrown off-kilter.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 02:19:28 PM
Forget it.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 02:21:46 PM
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I seem to remember that outfits like Wells Fargo & Co., Butterfield Overland Stage Co., various railroads, and banks put out general notices stating reward amounts offered for the arrest & conviction or pecentages of the stolen amounts for the recovery of money etc., etc.


Yeah, but the problem is: could they do this before the fact, as the case in question warrants? Was it good policy let the prospects clients know that the Bank wasn't impregnable?


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: cigar joe on August 18, 2006, 03:13:12 PM
that impregnable part was just an early form of advertizing I think or maybe even wishful thinking, not to really be taken literally.

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could they do this before the fact

Well just as the Union Pacific did why wouldn't they put out the notice as another form of deterant.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 03:33:35 PM
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that impregnable part was just an early form of advertizing I think or maybe even wishful thinking, not to really be taken literally.

Surely not by the thieves. But can you imagine a bank advertising the solidity of her own security and adding in the same line"and in case of theft we'll put out warrants in the amount of $..."?



 


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Beebs on August 18, 2006, 04:03:11 PM
Well I think... That Mortimer a) has the experience to have a good idea of what the reward would be and/or b) asked the law or the banker what the reward would be. To get that information, he could have said that he was going after them, and they would be inclined to tell him the reward in order to get him to chase them as hard as he can.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 04:18:11 PM
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Mortimer a) has the experience to have a good idea of what the reward would be


Yes, but the problem he's too definite. He doesn't adopt the conditional tense.     

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and/or b) asked the law or the banker what the reward would be.


He couldn't have made the question without making the banker (and even more the sheriff) suspicious. Also, he wouldn't have received an answer for the reasons I brought.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Beebs on August 18, 2006, 04:42:45 PM

He couldn't have made the question without making the banker (and even more the sheriff) suspicious. Also, he wouldn't have received an answer for the reasons I brought.

I agree with your arguement about the conditional tense. He was too definite, but I must say, I don't understand why he wouldn't get an answer. Allow me to try to explain.

From the sheriff ot banker's point of view, if Mortimer came to them saying he was going to get the money for them, as long as there was a reward, they would be happy to tell him "40,000 dollars if you get all the money back." Besides,  why is that information to be guarded so closely? What can they lose by telling bounty killers what their reward will be? That, sir, is what I don't understand.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: iceman on August 18, 2006, 05:22:51 PM
Let's cool it down a bit, everyone.

Well said  :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X


ICE


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 06:07:50 PM
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From the sheriff ot banker's point of view, if Mortimer came to them saying he was going to get the money for them, as long as there was a reward, they would be happy to tell him "40,000 dollars if you get all the money back." Besides,  why is that information to be guarded so closely? What can they lose by telling bounty killers what their reward will be? That, sir, is what I don't understand.



I thought you were referring to what Mortimer could have asked banker\sheriff before the heist. As I have already explained, "after" the heist he just wouldn't have the time to.


Title: Re: $40,000
Post by: Beebs on August 18, 2006, 06:17:15 PM



I thought you were referring to what Mortimer could have asked banker\sheriff before the heist. As I have already explained, "after" the heist he just wouldn't have the time to.

Ah, I see.

Well, my only thought is he stuck his head in the sheriffs office and asked before chasing after Monco.