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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In The West => Topic started by: Kurugen on August 26, 2006, 03:58:15 PM



Title: the fly?
Post by: Kurugen on August 26, 2006, 03:58:15 PM
Does anyone know how they managed to get that fly on that guys face at the beginning of the movie? Or is that just luck?


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Groggy on August 26, 2006, 03:59:26 PM
The prop man painted Jack Elam's face with either honey or marmalade (depending on who you ask) which attracted the fly.  Basically the released a whole jar of flies hoping that one would stick around.


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Cusser on August 26, 2006, 04:35:33 PM
I think it was part fly-part Vincent Price from the 1950s film - so that fly had actor's blood.  That scene was just one of a zillion that made Leone films special.  I should try that same trick in my current film (an in-progress clip on youtube.com, search "FDM" .


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Amaze on August 30, 2006, 02:00:41 PM
If you look closely you can see the shine on his face from whatever goo has been put on him.


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: The Firecracker on August 30, 2006, 02:11:10 PM
The part of the Fly was played brilliantly by Jeff Goldblum who at the time was an unknown (and the same can be said today).


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: BeauButabi on August 30, 2006, 03:17:07 PM
The part of the Fly was played brilliantly by Jeff Goldblum who at the time was an unknown (and the same can be said today).
Oh SNAP!


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 30, 2006, 03:28:35 PM
The part of the Fly was played brilliantly by Jeff Goldblum who at the time was an unknown (and the same can be said today).

 ;D ;D


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: The Firecracker on August 30, 2006, 10:55:48 PM
Oh SNAP!


Yeah he just kinda dissappeared from the lime light did'nt he?
He was like the Steve Guttenberg of the 90's.

He appeared in all these hits throughout the decade (Jurassic Park, Independence Day, Jurassic park 2 etc.) but then vanished at the turn of the century.

Since then I have only seen him in "The Life Aquatic" (which I urge all of you to see).


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: BeauButabi on August 30, 2006, 11:06:27 PM
Since then I have only seen him in "The Life Aquatic" (which I urge all of you to see).
I loved his role in that movie (and the movie in general). I need to pick that DVD up, haven seen it since the cinema.


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: The Firecracker on August 30, 2006, 11:08:16 PM
I loved his role in that movie (and the movie in general). I need to pick that DVD up, haven seen it since the cinema.

The director of the film (always seem to forget his name) is very good. I have seen all his films and don't dislike any.
Perhaps my favorite is "Rushmore".


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 31, 2006, 06:16:16 AM

Yeah he just kinda dissappeared from the lime light didn't he?
He was like the Steve Guttenberg of the 90's.


that's a good one!!!
whee the hell is he now? ???


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Tim on August 31, 2006, 12:56:11 PM
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The director of the film (always seem to forget his name) is very good. I have seen all his films and don't dislike any.
Perhaps my favorite is "Rushmore".

  That would be Wes Anderson.  My favorite of his is Life Aquatic w/ Steve Zissou, Bill Murray is beyond hilarious as Zissou.  Has anyone seen the Wes Anderson Mastercard commercial?  I've seen it at several movie theaters prior to the trailers.

  "Can I put a bayonet on a .357?"


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Mrs. Eastwood on September 22, 2006, 02:29:57 AM

Yeah he just kinda dissappeared from the lime light did'nt he?
He was like the Steve Guttenberg of the 90's.

He appeared in all these hits throughout the decade (Jurassic Park, Independence Day, Jurassic park 2 etc.) but then vanished at the turn of the century.

Since then I have only seen him in "The Life Aquatic" (which I urge all of you to see).


Lest we forget Silverado.

I think Jeff was pretty darn young when he did OUATITW. Not quite "larva" young, but youngish.

*bzzz bzzz bzzz*

The Mrs...


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Kurugen on September 28, 2006, 06:20:36 PM
was that a fake fly when it was sliding up the wood?


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: The Firecracker on September 29, 2006, 12:32:45 AM
was that a fake fly when it was sliding up the wood?


yes.


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: The Well on March 22, 2013, 04:44:44 PM
The prop man painted Jack Elam's face with either honey or marmalade (depending on who you ask) which attracted the fly.  Basically the released a whole jar of flies hoping that one would stick around.

But  fortunately instinctively behaving fly met intellectually prepared Jack Elams's face and both could open a genial inter play; looks like you play it each day on a hot summer day, but forget repeating this concert


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Cusser on March 22, 2013, 10:46:26 PM
OK, and it was a magnetically-moved fly on the seat side before Elam captured it in his gun barrel; it was $%^&%#$^&# 1968 when film was made, no CGI then.  So who cares. 

One of the issues with DVDs and home re-watchings...


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 24, 2013, 04:31:39 PM
if I recall correctly, I believe Frayling said somewhere that they spread molasses on Elam's face to get the fly to stick; and that there was only one shot where they had to use a fake fly. Not sure which shot that was. Maybe sometime I'll re-read the chapter on OUATITW in STDWD and refresh my memory. or just look at the index for Jack Elam's name


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: Groggy on March 24, 2013, 05:05:51 PM
Probably the fly crawling up the wall was fake. Looks like it's magnetized.


Title: Re: the fly?
Post by: The Well on March 29, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
Probably the fly crawling up the wall was fake. Looks like it's magnetized.

Not probably, but for sure, the crawling fly was a fake; Cusser is right. Its confirmed by Tonino Colli, the director of photography, in his interview on the OUATITW bonus DVD. What is interesting for me is that magnetized fly had not crossed my mind how to resolve it despite I am magnetized by this masterpiece film. By the way, Tonino Colli mentioned, that they tried a fake fly for the shot in which there is the real fly now, but it did not work.

Anyway, there is another fly I have noticed. During the scene in the saloon, when Frank strives to pay back Harmonica 5k bucks, in one moment a fly appears on Frank's elbow; there are 3 versions of mine why the fly entered the history:

1. nobody noticed it
2. they noticed it, but the concrete shot was so highly appreciated that they sacrificed the fly
3. they noticed it, but did not pay attention considering it as a natural occurence

Be it as it may, I think that that unfamous fly was just a natural part of the environment where the shooting took place  :)