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Title: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: boardwalk_angel on August 28, 2006, 06:56:45 AM
Lemonade Joe (Limonádový Joe aneb Konskáopera) (1964)                                                     
                                                       (http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6156/lemonadejoelr3.jpg)

Directed by
Oldrich Lipský

Cast of Characters
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Lemonade Joe
Doug Badman   
Horáce Badman aka Hogo Fogo --> (Master Criminal of the Wild West)
Tornado Lou
Ezra Goodman
Winnifred Goodman
The Pancho Kid
The Banjo Kid

"This film is dedicated to the rough diamond heroes of the Wild West who avenged wrongs and defended the Law."


Lemonade Joe is among the most inventive...strangest..silliest movies I've ever seen.... blending singing cowboys with Looney Tunes, Road Runner cartoons.., Dudley Doright, Snidely Whiplash...with dashes of Tom Mix, Gene Autry, & Popeye.........into a genuinely affectionate spoof and an homage to old time American Westerns..as well as a biting satire of American capitalism.

To be honest...It's also occasionally tedious...full of stupid jokes, and silly sight gags.

Originally released in 1964...hitting the United States in 1966......Lemonade Joe is the clean living gun fighter who drinks only Kolaloka lemonade and takes on a town full of whiskey drinking cowboys. It's a musical comedy featuring the good guys in white, the bad guys in black, nutty saloon fights, bank robberies, & improbable shootouts.

Director Oldrich Lipsky began his career as artistic director of Prague's Satirical Theater and went on to make several film comedies.
Inspired by silent comedy ...This movie is utterly bonkers, from start to finish..  There are a lot of musical numbers, most of which are great fun....or---> really bad songs both in sort of English and Czech..depending on how you look at it. 

There are some wonderfully goofy songs.......such as "When the Smoke Thickens in the Bar"; "Do You See My Moist Lips?", sung by sultry saloon singer Tornado Lou.."Arizona, Where All Good Men Come From" warbled by the lovely Winifred.

A number of animation sequences mixed with live action add to its cartoon-like sweetness...Joe’s theme song is sung in kinda, sorta faux English, sounding like a mixture of ‘Happy Trails To You’...& "Bury Me Not on the Lone Prai-ree"....as he rides along an astonishingly surreal animation aided landscape.

It’s shot in black and white, but is toned in shades of yellow, pink and blue. The effect is very much like watching an old tinted silent movie.

Karel Fiala, a star of operetta, stars as Joe...... the ultimate good guy hero with a flashing smile, strong character, and dead on accuracy with a sixgun.

The plot? uh..well...Doug Badman, owner of the Trigger Whisky saloon, controls the small Arizona town of Stetson City.
When temperance crusader Ezra Goodman (yeah..that's right ...Badman & Goodman), and his beautiful daughter Winnifred, are menaced & threatened while preaching abstention from whiskey, Lemonade Joe shows up to save the day.
Badman and his evil brother Horace (alias Hogo Fogo, "Master Criminal of the Wild West" ) fight Lemonade Joe for control of the town and the drinking profits.

Sharp viewers will recognize several winks & nods to "My Darling Clementine"..."Destry Rides Again"...and the maestro..Sergio Leone.

"Lemonade Joe" isn't the kind of movie that everyone will fall head over heels for....it's a farce that some people are gonna love...some are gonna hate...but most will agree that they've never seen anything quite like it..& aren't likely to see again.

I've included a short clip...hope you enjoy it  8)

-------> Click here to watch lemonade-joe (http://media.putfile.com/lemonade-joe) <-------




Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 28, 2006, 07:43:55 AM
That doesn't really look like my type of movie. But I like the song.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 29, 2006, 11:43:25 AM
I - LOVE - THIS - FILM!
It's the funniest film I've ever seen, I guess... or maybe one of the funniest films. I'm not sure whether some of the jokes aren't ruined or diminished by translation in English... but you seem to like it though.
I'm glad you also noticed Leone in it! I was afraid whether I'm not only too crazy about him to see him everywhere...
Do you know that the fight in the begining was real fight? One of the actors in it (that one who is kicked by Grimpo) said it.
And "surreal animation aided landscape" is called Fata Morgana Valley. ;) It was shot in some quarries, I think.

BTW, I enjoy it, though I don't know much of what you think it is parodised in it... or maybe because of that? And most people here in the Czech Republic probably don't know it, and still it belongs to our classics.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Sanjuro on August 29, 2006, 12:00:34 PM
Is Leone in it? Souds like a fun movie to watch. Full of spoofs. I like the poster design too. Good color. Is this movie available on DVD?


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: boardwalk_angel on August 29, 2006, 12:39:37 PM
Is this movie available on DVD?

Yes...I took the above clip from the DVD released in the USA from Facets Video.
There's also a Czech import DVD...that's reported to be a better presentation...xploited cinema carries it.





Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Sanjuro on August 29, 2006, 12:46:52 PM
Great! Thanks for the info.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 29, 2006, 02:25:58 PM
Yes...I took the above clip from the DVD released in the USA from Facets Video.
There's also a Czech import DVD...that's reported to be a better presentation...xploited cinema carries it.

I've read that some scenes were missing in the American release... on the Czech there are all, those released in America with dubbing and those that weren't with subtitles. (But I don't have the DVD, though I wish I had)

BTW, I'm glad you posted this. If you hadn't, I'd maybe have done it myself, but it's better from American point of view. ;)


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Sanjuro on August 29, 2006, 03:03:44 PM
I've read that some scenes were missing in the American release... on the Czech there are all, those released in America with dubbing and those that weren't with subtitles. (But I don't have the DVD, though I wish I had)

BTW, I'm glad you posted this. If you hadn't, I'd maybe have done it myself, but it's better from American point of view. ;)

Oh no, is American DVD a cut version with dubbed audio? That's discouraging. But I will try to rent it anyway.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 29, 2006, 03:09:11 PM
Oh no, is American DVD a cut version with dubbed audio? That's discouraging. But I will try to rent it anyway.

If you manage to find that Czech version, you probably can watch it only with subtitles. Which I recommend, because the voices are great!


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: boardwalk_angel on August 29, 2006, 03:09:49 PM
Oh no, is American DVD a cut version with dubbed audio? That's discouraging. But I will try to rent it anyway.

Not at all...it's taken from the theatrical print...& is subtitled in English.
The Czech DVD is just considered to be of higher quality.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 29, 2006, 03:11:37 PM
Not at all...it's taken from the theatrical print...& is subtitled in English.
The Czech DVD is just considered to be of higher quality.

Good news!
Yes, I've read that the DVD has pretty good quality. And interviews with the actors.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Sanjuro on August 29, 2006, 03:42:18 PM
So, I can still see it with English subtitles? That's better. There is a video retal store that specializes in foreign films in my town. They may have this fillm. And how does Leone appear? Somebody impersonates him? Or as an animation?


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 29, 2006, 03:57:36 PM
So, I can still see it with English subtitles? That's better. There is a video retal store that specializes in foreign films in my town. They may have this fillm. And how does Leone appear? Somebody impersonates him? Or as an animation?

No, his trademarks, like close-ups. Sorry to tell you he's not there in person - it would be cool. ;D
There's also a wanted poster scene, that could be inspired. But FFDM was released after it... :-\


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Sanjuro on August 29, 2006, 04:15:22 PM
No, his trademarks, like close-ups. Sorry to tell you he's not there in person - it would be cool. ;D
There's also a wanted poster scene, that could be inspired. But FFDM was released after it... :-\

Okay, I get it. You can see Leone's style parodied. If Leone got an inspiration for the wanted poster from this film, that would be funny. I'll check with my video store.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 29, 2006, 04:17:59 PM
If Leone got an inspiration for the wanted poster from this film, that would be funny.
 

It would. But it isn't so similar, only in some aspects.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Silenzio on August 29, 2006, 05:31:54 PM
Wow, Lemonade Joe is on NetFlix . . . didn't expect that.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 29, 2006, 05:37:04 PM
Wow, Lemonade Joe is on NetFlix . . . didn't expect that.

The world is small... About year ago I even wouldn't expect to realise that it have been released in America.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on August 30, 2006, 02:42:09 PM
I think I could add that the song is sang by Karel Gott, young in that time - not that I like him, but he's probably our most famous singer (but who knows) and he sings really well. But I like better one song sang by Waldemar Matuška. (He was one of the "kids" - I think Banjo Kid in the list above, but it's "Coyotte Kid" in Czech, I think it was him.)


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on September 02, 2006, 09:03:30 AM
Boardwalk Angel, haven't you got the English lyrics for songs in this film? I would like to compare it with the original...


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: boardwalk_angel on September 02, 2006, 09:23:26 AM
Boardwalk Angel, haven't you got the English lyrics for songs in this film? I would like to compare it with the original...

I have the lyrics to "Arizona".......sung by Winnifred

Arizona, Arizona that's where
aII true men come from.

Cards fIip-fIipping, buIIets buzzing.
Cows moo-mooing fuII of feeIing.

I'm happy and content
as a fish in it's eIement.

The race of Arizona men
are poIite to us women.

GentIemen with a bIow
teach ruffians manners before they know.

And in the course of progress
shoot from the hip and never miss.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on September 02, 2006, 09:35:01 AM
Thanks! It's very close, except these small differences:

Arizona, that's zone of all true men. (to rhyme, because zone = zóna... I didn't translate it literally, because the order of words is different.)

I feel in that coziness as a fish...

The word "us" isn't in the original, as well as the "before they know" and "never miss";) The English words are shorter, so they probably needed to put in more of them. :)



Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: boardwalk_angel on September 02, 2006, 09:38:37 AM
Got Tornado Lou's big number..too-->

As the smoke thickens in the bar
when I sit over my Iiquor.

I dream that one day he'II come,
the champion of my heart.

To him I'II give gIadIy, gIadIy,
what a maid prizes most highIy.

ShouId he one day appear,
As the smoke thickens in the bar.

As the smoke thickens in the bar
when I sit over my Iiquor.

I dream that one day he'II come,
the champion of my heart.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on September 02, 2006, 09:41:45 AM
This is not so close, probably for the reason I mentioned last... shorter words, so more of them, more sentences. But the meaning is the same, of course.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on May 30, 2007, 12:12:29 PM
I realised - you probably don't get the meaning of Horace Badman's nickname. Hogo Fogo is used in Czech for someone who's living on high standard of living, showing it to others - and maybe actually not having enough money for it, not being actually well-behaved for it, or so.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on November 19, 2008, 09:19:19 PM
Different, entertaining, and hilarious.  O0


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on November 20, 2008, 03:51:13 AM
Different, entertaining, and hilarious.  O0

Especially hilarious. :D


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Banjo on November 21, 2008, 08:16:54 AM
Tried this the other day,I could only stand it for 10 minutes.I don't like silent comedy.

But after rereading this thread i might try and endure the remainder just to try and fathom what all the fuss is about.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on November 21, 2008, 11:55:01 PM
Tried this the other day,I could only stand it for 10 minutes.I don't like silent comedy.

First of all, it's not silent comedy.

Try it. I hope you'll get it this time. Though I don't know what the translation does to it; maybe it's one of the reasons you didn't like it. Maybe the translation doesn't bring out the... overactedness? - of the whole thing. I don't think actually it's the best word...


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: Banjo on November 22, 2008, 06:22:58 AM
Well as BA(she sent to me the disc,bless her) said it's inspired by silent comedy and certainly looks like one!

But i will try it. O0


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: marmota-b on November 22, 2008, 12:58:47 PM
Well as BA said it's inspired by silent comedy and certainly looks like one!

True, but a lot of the humour lies in what's being said, and that's definitely not a silent comedy's feature.


Title: Re: Lemonade Joe..a review
Post by: titoli on November 22, 2008, 04:14:37 PM
I don't know why but this title makes me feel thirsty. It is only right to bring it up in winter.