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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In America => Topic started by: Kurugen on August 29, 2006, 10:39:15 PM
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I was on wikipedia (man that site has everything) and i looked on OUATIA and it said that the real version still exists but is not dubbed or edited.So can someone help me on what that means?Could it be possible to re-release it as a 2 part or not?
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I was on wikipedia (man that site has everything) and i looked on OUATIA and it said that the real version still exists but is not dubbed or edited.So can someone help me on what that means?Could it be possible to re-release it as a 2 part or not?
There's about another 45 minutes or so of footage that still exists that the producers pressured Leone to cut from the film. As you know Leone did not film with sound so the extra footage hasn't been dubbed.
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so if they dubbed it could it be re-released longer or no?
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so if they dubbed it could it be re-released longer or no?
Yes. But it will be very hard to re-dubb it.
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Yes. But it will be very hard to re-dubb it.
Really? It wouldnt be easier with newier technology and such?
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Really? It wouldnt be easier with newier technology and such?
I'm just saying the voices will sound slightly different. Plus it will cost a lot of money to take on such a project. They did it for GBU because it's such a popular movie. OUATIA isn't very popular.
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Thats why they have to re-release it into theaters so more people could see.Man do i hate hollywood.
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Man do i hate hollywood.
You're not alone. ;D
The problem is they WON'T re-release it. And why? Because it's too slow. Bullsh*t! How's about showing some good quality films instead of sh*t like "accepted"?
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is it possibly to rent a theater and show it on dvd? or is there a lot of legal mumbo jumbo to do?
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is it possibly to rent a theater and show it on dvd? or is there a lot of legal mumbo jumbo to do?
There's too much legal mumbo jumbo for that.
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i see.So how do i start on the legal mumbo jumbo? Do i send them a letter or what?
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i see.So how do i start on the legal mumbo jumbo? Do i send them a letter or what?
Even if the letter is sent, I still don't think they would do it. :'(
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that sucks but I think it might work.I mean look at what Warner Bros made over the summer.Not much.So even though i think i would have little chance i still have some sort of chance.
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is it possibly to rent a theater and show it on dvd? or is there a lot of legal mumbo jumbo to do?
Some cinemas will allow you to do it for a birthday occasion (it's worth ringing up). To get a hold of a film print (a good one) that's where the cost's begin to ring up.
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i see.So where could i fine a good print? Should i look on EbAY? ;D
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Lol, it's actually illegal to own film prints at home ??? (Jay Fenton restoration expert and film collector releases this little nugget of infomation on a accompanying featurette found on the VCI release of Blonde Ice)
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dang that sucks.So what do i do? Order it from a catalog or ask the studio for it?
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There's about another 45 minutes or so of footage that still exists that the producers pressured Leone to cut from the film. As you know Leone did not film with sound so the extra footage hasn't been dubbed.
In an interview one of Leone's daughters has said yesterday that those 40 minutes are being currently under restoration and will be released in the near future, though they would like the event to happen in a big festival with an introduction by some big name like Tarantino:
http://www.repubblica.it/2006/09/sezioni/spettacoli_e_cultura/cinema/venezia/il-leone-restaurato/il-leone-restaurato/il-leone-restaurato.html
She also says that they won't be re-edited into the known italian movie version which is as his father intended it to be (so it wasn't the producers who imposed the cuts: true?) I don't know and don't care either way as I don't like the movie, still I would have liked to ask her how come that, as she likes to appear so intent preserving the integrity of his father's work, she and her family let the italian version of the movie be re-dubbed for the dvd release. Clowns...
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In an interview one of Leone's daughters has said yesterday that those 40 minutes are being currently under restoration and will be released in the near future, though they would like the event to happen in a big festival with an introduction by some big name like Tarantino:
http://www.repubblica.it/2006/09/sezioni/spettacoli_e_cultura/cinema/venezia/il-leone-restaurato/il-leone-restaurato/il-leone-restaurato.html
She also says that they won't be re-edited into the known italian movie version which is as his father intended it to be (so it wasn't the producers who imposed the cuts: true?) I don't know and don't care either way as I don't like the movie, still I would have liked to ask her how come that, as she likes to appear so intent preserving the integrity of his father's work, she and her family let the italian version of the movie be re-dubbed for the dvd release. Clowns...
THATS AWESOME.But i cant read it.Could some1 translate it?
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In an interview one of Leone's daughters has said yesterday that those 40 minutes are being currently under restoration and will be released in the near future, though they would like the event to happen in a big festival with an introduction by some big name like Tarantino:
http://www.repubblica.it/2006/09/sezioni/spettacoli_e_cultura/cinema/venezia/il-leone-restaurato/il-leone-restaurato/il-leone-restaurato.html
She also says that they won't be re-edited into the known italian movie version which is as his father intended it to be (so it wasn't the producers who imposed the cuts: true?)
Do I understand you right? The missing 40 minutes will be restored to the English-language version, but not the one/ones with Italian dubbing?
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Do I understand you right? The missing 40 minutes will be restored to the English-language version, but not the one/ones with Italian dubbing?
that lame.I mean im not Italian but come on.The italian version was the only REAL version when it went to the theaters.
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I'm gonna be a plebian and say that I don't NEED the extra forty minutes to like the film! Maybe give the extra scenes as a special feature, but there's no reason to make the movie even longer. The current version is a masterpiece, and I can't imagine the missing material would add to much except maybe as curios. (Yeah, yeah, "it was Leone's intent", whatever. But I'm drawing the line at four and a half f-ing hours for a film.)
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A rather arbitrary line, at that. Why shouldn't it be 5, 6, 7 hours long? Ever heard of a mini-series? A director, especially a genius like SL, should be given all the time he requires. Let Sergio be Sergio, I say.
Even if the additional footage does nothing in terms of plot, it will certainly affect the pacing of the film. And pacing is one of the things SL's films are particularly known for.
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THATS AWESOME.But i cant read it.Could some1 translate it?
Here you go:
- "Who was Sergio Leone for you?"
- Raffaella Leone: "A father whom I loved dearly. And so did he. An authoritarian figure, but in a strange way: he didn't impose anything, but he lead you where he wanted you to go. Like he did with his actors, who always respected his authority"
- "And how was it for you children to live with a movie director as a father?"
- RL: "For us it was normal to have movie stars at home, great men like Clint Eastwood. I know my father said the famous phrase that Clint had just two expressions: one with his hat on and one without. But I believe that since he has worked with him for so long, he knew there was something special about him. So it was just a joke, my father had a great sense of humour. Anyway Clint showed how talentful he was by becoming a great director himself."
- "What was Leone's favourite movie among his own movies?"
RL: "The next one he would have shot, for sure. But I believe the most important one for him was OUTIA. He suffered for this movie and it took him a long time to make it. There was a lot about himself in this movie, even in the female roles."
- "And the one he loved the least?"
RL: "DYS, at least before he started shooting it. He didn't want to shoot it, just to be the producer. Then he was somehow forced to do it, the cast was ready. In truth, already then he was after OUTIA".
- "And you are now working on OUTIA, isnt'it?"
- RL: "Yes, in close cooperation with SKY we want to restore 40 minutes of scenes we have found, for example a scene with Louise Fletcher, who won an Oscar for "One flew over the cuckoo's nest"; this scene disappeared in the final cut. But let's be clear: we will not re-edit the movie, which will be left as my father wanted it. We would like to show however, for instance at a film festival, these interesting scenes never seen before. Maybe even introduced by somebody important like Quentin Tarantino".
- "Now however it's time for FFDM..."
- RL: Yes, also because this film badly needed to be restored. We wanted it to be shown in the Sala Grande theatre and we made it!"
- "Just one last curiosity: which was the female role in his movies that your father liked best?"
- RL: "Claudia Cardinale in OUTIW".
Editor's note: the restored version of FFDM was actually not only screened at the Venice Film Festival, but it was also shown a few days ago on SKY in Italy in High Definition. But since yours truly does not own an HD decoder, I was unable to see it.
I doubt however that the restored version includes previously unseen scenes, I think it was just a matter of restoring the movie.
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Thanks for that cool interview Leonardo.
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thanks leonardo for translating it.
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The longer the better (it's what my girlfriend says all the time!).
The same doesn't apply to GBU though...some of the extra scenes put back into the American release were rather pointless.