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Title: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Simon on June 30, 2003, 02:02:00 PM
Watching this wonderful epic again on DVD has I guess refreshed us all. So I thought it would be a good time to ask you guys what you think is your favourite and most memorable scene in the film?
Yet again I laughed until I nearly cried at the Chief Aiello baby-switching scene!
And the scene in the station, when Noodles leaves for exile and returns thirty years later always gets me.
But my favourite has to be that quite beautiful scene in which young Patsy slowly eats that cream cake (a charlotte mousse with whipped cream) rather than get laid.
I know that there really are so many. But what scene really does it for you?


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: guybrush on July 01, 2003, 05:18:25 AM
The scene when Noodles is in the railway station coming back from his 'going to bed early' period, and that 'Yesterday' theme starts.... just recalling that scene is sending shivers down my spine right now.





Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Jon on July 02, 2003, 03:37:37 AM
This really is a difficult one,there are so many scenes I love in  this movie.I suppose my top 5 bits,in no particular order.would be

The incredibly haunting and beautiful scene near the end when Noodles leaves Deborah,sees Max's son[played by the young Max]and Max appears out of the darkness to look out of that window.Sheer poetry,aided immeasurably of course bythe music

Early on when the old Noodles looks through the peep hole through which he used to observe Deborah,and we flashback to him as a boy looking[all of the flashbacks are wonderfully done,very subtle but efective]

The death of Dominic,what a powerful,moving scene."I slipped"!

The baby swiching scene,one of several really funny scenes in a film that has a general moon of sombreness.

The charlotte rousse scene,nuff said.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Angel Eyes on July 03, 2003, 08:15:55 AM
The last scene when Noodles goes back to his opium den, lays back, tales a pull and smiles as the camera pulls up through the vale, all of his troubles gone.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Half-Soldier on July 05, 2003, 10:22:44 AM
The last scene when Noodles goes back to his opium den, lays back, tales a pull and smiles as the camera pulls up through the vale, all of his troubles gone.

I like Leone's self parody scene with the exchange of glances as Noodles stirrs the coffee, taps the spoon, takes a sip then looks back at them all. It's a great moment of tension, right at the heart of the film. Everything is happening here because all eyes are on Noodles, they want him to be strong, a leader, and even the score Max, but it's not going to happen. The rape and departure scenes have just proceeded this one and we know (and Noodles knows), he has lost Deborah forever. Destined to a life smoking opium and going to bed early


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Jon on July 06, 2003, 07:00:32 AM
Yeah,that's a cool scene,much more reminiscent of Leone's earlier style,from which OUATIA was a partial but not total departure.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: BDR529 on July 07, 2003, 02:13:23 AM
The ending is definitely one of the most moving endings to a film I've seen, but another pick of mine is when Noodles goes to the train station where Deborah's leaving, after he raped her.  Watching the train pull her away like that--with her eyes on Noodles's, pulling the shade down--just says so much about his utter loss, that HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR.  It's heartbreaking.  And then the camera turns to Noodles, watching her go.  Finally he turns away, with that mournful music, and then it goes to the intermission, which is perfect.  Lets it all soak into the audience.

Another favorite (not really a scene, though) is when Noodles enters the room with "Secretary Bailey" near the end, and Max turns around to face him, and we see Noodles's face.  De Niro expresses so much in one look it blows me away every time.  The way it feels to see his old friend after 35 years, the friend that he thought he'd killed and now had apparently betrayed him, is expressed in his face so much better than I could possibly put into words.  De Niro's acting all the way through the film is incredible in its subtlety.

And of course the rape scenes are memorable in the worst way.  The one with Deborah is particularly awful, but the one in the jewler's is also done really well, as we see Max and Patsy look over the jewels ("nice matzo balls") while we hear Carol's voice transform from horrified screams into sensual moans.  And now I've gone on much too long... anybody could just go on and on about the memorable parts of the film.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: cigar joe on July 07, 2003, 06:33:17 PM
I always liked the Noodles Returns sequence with Fat Moe, Noodles thinks that Fat Moe made off with the money but finds out that he's on his ass worse than ever.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Garry Cowell on July 08, 2003, 04:57:40 AM
All of the above.

Plus...

"Did you get it?!"
"Yeah but I think his arsehole blinked"  ;D

The red head in the hearse surprise.

...and the immortal line "Shitzy Lip Shitz didn't pay up!"  :D


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: JimmyCleanHands on July 09, 2003, 11:44:11 AM
My favorite scenes were when Max interrupted Noodles and Deborah to divy up , and then their encounter with Bugsy and his gang. My favorite line there was " You woulda been better off if you'd stayed in the Bronx" and Max's reply "It woulda been better for you too"


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Simon on July 13, 2003, 06:38:02 AM
And...
" You'll put up and you'll shut up, you'll hear nothing and you'll see nothing. Just like you did for Bugsy. We made our deal, now take a walk"
Brilliant!!
Noodles lays down the new rules for Police Chief Aiello ( Fart Face) on their first step to power. Now they are in business!!


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: cedet on July 13, 2003, 04:00:48 PM
Sorry but I don't think that fart Face is police chief Aieilo...


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Simon on July 14, 2003, 02:46:15 AM
Sorry but I don't think that fart Face is police chief Aieilo...

The young gangs nickname for Chief Aiello was indeed Fart Face. Go check out your DVD and go to the scene where the lads are trying to roll the drunk. Dominic is tying his shoe laces as Police Chief Aiello comes out of the station he runs to Noodles and shouts "It's Fart Face" and later when they use Max's wagon as cover Noodles says "The wagon will hide us from Fart Face"


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: cedet on July 14, 2003, 03:18:14 AM
Sorry Simon but the cop when they are Kids and the one whose baby is exchanged is a totally different guy played by 2 differents actors  Fart Face is played by Richard Foronji and Chief Aiello is played by Danny Aiiello...
so the cops aren't the same....


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Simon on July 14, 2003, 08:00:09 AM
Yep! O.K Cedet you win!! I  just checked on IMDB. Fart Face was indeed played by Richard Foronjy.
My apologies. You know, after seventeen years of watching this movie, I'm still learning.  


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Half-Soldier on July 14, 2003, 09:11:20 AM
Yep! O.K Cedet you win!! I  just checked on IMDB. Fart Face was indeed played by Richard Foronjy.
My apologies. You know, after seventeen years of watching this movie, I'm still learning.  

Cedet has a good grasp of this movie no doubt, check out his other posts, but he still hasn't said which is the most memorable scene for him?


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: cedet on July 14, 2003, 10:09:25 AM
I have got a problem by choosing a memorable scene in the movie, but at this moment , I think the most powerful to me is when Noodles step into the Crypt and looked at the graves, in one second he sees all his past (and if you notice when the camera shows the names on the coffin, max's one is not perfectly readable)
the moment where he sees the sign on the wall: Friend and Brother is impressive in emotion, because we are Noodles a the moment, we are surprised by"Build by Noodles" just like Him


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Pesci on July 26, 2003, 11:35:55 AM
There are really lots of wonderful moments in this masterpiece:

- Noodles walks in 1968 through the night with the suitcase. A frisbee comes from the back (close up of the suitcase), he ducks - CUT! - back in 1933, Max takes Noodles' suitcase, which he had in the prison.
Wonderful editing in this great scene!

- Patsy waiting for Peggy on the stairs with the cake in front of him. He looks at the door, struggling with himself and starts slowly to eat the cake.
Great symbolizm of innocence in this scene.

- 1968: Noodles looks through the wall which he used to see Deborah in his youth - CUT - 1922: Deborah at the age of 13 dances in the room, young Noodles watches her.

- Noodles looks in the mirror while "Yesterday" is playing.

- Dominic is shot by Bugsy: "Noodles!... I slipped"

- 1922: Noodles in the police car - looking hopefully at Max, Patsy, Cockeye and Moe. He smiles and waves his hand.

Pesci



Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Darius Fletcher on February 08, 2004, 01:35:32 PM
The gang in slow motion run from Bugsy, under the bridge with Ennio's music in the background. God, that Scene always gets me!!


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: DJIMBO on February 12, 2004, 04:09:52 AM

has to be the end scene as de niro takes the puff in the den then slowly lies onto his back and smiles.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: El Topo on April 04, 2004, 08:23:52 PM
The scene where they go drop off the diamonds at the old shipyard....and we just hear the seagulls making noise (very spaghetti western)


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: DJASh on April 05, 2004, 04:21:32 PM
The bit where Noodles is driven into prison and waves to the gang, then Max glances upwards.....then it cuts to the Cemetery and the "Your youngest and strongest will die by the sword" plaque...


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Blueberry on April 07, 2004, 02:36:31 AM
Many memorable moments in this film, it's all memorable moments...
I'd have to say that one particular scene bothers me every time, though - when the Yesterday-muzak-supermarket-corny-pastiche-tacky-version kicks in.

That is so out of touch with the rest of the movie, it's not subtle enough, it' s right in your face, and it kicks me out of the mood of the movie rather than into it... the scene is made in a marvellous way - with the mirror and all - but the Yesterday-pastiche ruins it.

Your attention is going towards thinking "My god that's an awful version of a worn out song" and so you are ejected, in that moment, from the film itself - paradoxically you are suddenly removed from the very magic that the song is supposed to reinforce.

Luckily it doesn't last too long... It's the only moment in the movie that bothers me in this way... maybe it's just me.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Bill Carson on May 03, 2004, 12:36:21 PM
 8)  yep. the last scene of Noodles smiling. mysterious and melancholy.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: shorty larsen on May 08, 2004, 05:32:25 AM
The famous Brooklyn bridge scene, when Dominic walks in front of the rest, and immediately after the run from Bugsy scene, in slow motion, with Morricone music and Gheorge Zamfir pan pipe.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Simon on May 23, 2004, 06:38:56 AM
I have been absent from this board for some time now, but was pleasantly surprised to see this topic still active. Thanks everyone!! I guess at this point it's also worth discussing Leone's quite wonderful scene transitions as this film is particularly rich with them. DJash picked up on probably my favourite, it gives me goose bumps just thinking of it. I also really like the 1930's New York photo in the station turning into the late 1960's New York with Noodles driving to Fat Moe's.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: hailclinteastwood on May 25, 2004, 05:54:52 AM
I gotta say my favorite scene is the one in the mirror when yesterday starts to play, a beautiful song with a beutiful peice of cinematography. although i also like the scene with the gasoline, scared the hell outta me


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Dlanor on June 12, 2004, 03:30:50 PM
 The slow motion when the young Dominic is shot, marked by the beautiful flute music.
  Leone was a master in the uses of  slow motions.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: alexander on June 14, 2004, 04:57:03 PM
yesterday.

the scene in DUMBO.

deborah taking off her makeup.

old max in the window.

noodles smiling.

all these scenes are incredible!


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: lhoimer2005 on June 14, 2004, 10:22:01 PM
yeh, there are many memorable scenes in the film, but I would llike to bring your attention to one that is not mentioned hitherto.  

it's the one shortly after when Nero, in the 1920s (or 30s?) brought a one way ticket and then went to the counter the purchase something.  There de Nero stands on the left, in front of the counter and facing the vendor.  To the left, for about three to five seconds are three characters positioned in a trangle: one black man mobbing the floor,  behind him sits a woman, probably in her early fifty, eating a piece of bread, and to her right, is a man sleeping on the bench.  

I didn't catch the symbolism until very recently, for the scence I believe epitomizes the life of Noobles in exile, during which a defeated man drags a spiritedless existence for almost thirty years.  Like those three characters, he works, he eats, and he sleeps and nothing else.  This constitutes a big part of his tragedy.  


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Blueberry on June 15, 2004, 06:49:38 AM
It's funny that you mention the scene with the man mobbing ... - I thought exactly that... it looked very "artificial" and very intently positioned, especially him  - you know, he puts down the mob and dries some sweat off his forehead with his sleeve, while exhaling in the most elaborate way.

Good to hear from someone who thought it over - with the careful positioning it's probably meant to have some meaning, and I think yours is a fine interpretation.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Dlanor on June 15, 2004, 02:52:14 PM
yeh, there are many memorable scenes in the film, but I would llike to bring your attention to one that is not mentioned hitherto.  

it's the one shortly after when Nero, in the 1920s (or 30s?) brought a one way ticket and then went to the counter the purchase something.  There de Nero stands on the left, in front of the counter and facing the vendor.  To the left, for about three to five seconds are three characters positioned in a trangle: one black man mobbing the floor,  behind him sits a woman, probably in her early fifty, eating a piece of bread, and to her right, is a man sleeping on the bench.  

I didn't catch the symbolism until very recently, for the scence I believe epitomizes the life of Noobles in exile, during which a defeated man drags a spiritedless existence for almost thirty years.  Like those three characters, he works, he eats, and he sleeps and nothing else.  This constitutes a big part of his tragedy.  

 :o   My!  I would have never imagined such a sophisticated thing! Amazing.  The level of SL has augmented throughout his movies as the level of the use of the symbols. Have you found anything else like that in OUTIA?


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: lhoimer2005 on June 15, 2004, 11:12:33 PM
one more scence I forgot to mention, it's the one at the end after the garbage truck passes by Nero, and then three cars loaded with drunken teens are moving to Nero's direction.  

For a brief moment, the camera focuses on Nero's facial expression as he checks the approaching cars.  Then a beam of light strucks on his face TWICE.  I believe this is another symbolism.  As far as I am concerned, the primary theme in this movie is the passage of time, and the light beams actuualy stand for the two periods -- one is his adolecence, the other his late 20s -- in his life that worth remembering; the rest, including the time he served in prision, or the time in exile, as I said before he drags a spiritedless existence.  not only was he a hunted man, he was also haunted by his past, remorseful of bringing Max and other childhood buddies to their premature death, and probably spends his days in nogstaglia.  but even for all the torments he has endured, those two periods LIGHTS UP (the light beam) his life and makes life bearable, howeverable inbearable in may be.  

This kind of relates to another big debate, as to whether this is a dream.  My intution is that it is NOT a dream.  Things really happened, let's think of the emotional impact, would the story still moves us, and touches our souls, and provoke our sympathy for Noobles if there is nothign but a dream? negative !! also, think of it this way, setting aside what leone really thought for a meoment, ask yourself this, for asthetics purpose what makes the film, and Nooble's story more memorable, that he makes it up or that he really experiences it?    


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: lhoimer2005 on June 15, 2004, 11:23:00 PM
one last thing, after having spent close to four hours watching the movie for the first time, I knew immediately that this is a great movie, there's no doubt about this, but it was until the film's last five minute that I realize that it is not like any other great movies, including the ones Leone produced, that it is a vertible masterpiece.  In the last few minutes of the film, the scence with the light beams, and the ones in the opmium den, highlights the theme(s) of this epic and what is more, provides plenty of food for thought.  
 




Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: cheem_2000 on June 16, 2004, 08:23:26 AM
Thank you for your illuminating explaination of your memorable scene in the film. It is amazing how one can discover new things even after many viewings of this masterpiece.
One of my favourite scenes is when Cockeye spots Carol in the brothel and she come in and starts to survey the gangsters...well you know what. You have that really sexy jazz music playing then when she comes to Max the piano is romantic. It is such a great scenr the way Leone can elevate something quite sordid into an art level. This reminds me also of the scene on the rooftop with the policeman and the way the music starts to indicate Noodles' yearning for Deborah as Max is doing the business with Peggy.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: threedusters on June 19, 2004, 08:15:21 PM
hi guy's.  I am just posting my first, and hopefully many thought's on this and all Leone's work's.  Yes, that cake scene.......  Patsy lives in a hell hole, life is tough for a kid with not much of a chilhood to speak of, being surrounded by the harsh realities of life in that place, at the time, yet despite all this, he is still a child........................that scene, says to me "ah, the innocense of youth.......  Moves me to tears thinking about it> :-[


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: mortimerforever on June 26, 2004, 01:03:21 PM
the scene between noodles and 'mr bailey'.



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I have a story too Mr Bailey.I once had a friend..a dear friend. I turned him in to save him. Things turned out bad for me...and for him.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Il Buono on July 17, 2004, 04:21:44 AM
I really like how the transition to the past is done in the beginning, with the phone-ringing, especially at the end, when de Niro picks up the phone, but the phone keeps ringing and it's not until the police (or something) picks up that it stops.  It's arty stuff.

Best part in the film is when Noodles' gang runs from the other gang (the name escapes me) and a slow motion sets in accompanied with the panflute theme.  Goosebumps all over the place.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Simon on July 17, 2004, 07:24:13 AM
Yeah, a lot of us like that scene. It's moving, dramatic and ends in tragedy.

Another brilliant scene transition is when Noodles is whacked out on dope. The camera slowly moves away from Noodles dazed face to the lamp beside him, and then blurs into the moving street lamp where the charred remains of the gang are lying on the road.
I love the way the rocking movement of the damaged street lamp signifies Noodles hypnotic state in the opium den.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: aym_playing on July 20, 2004, 10:51:16 AM
I like 1968 Noodles and Fat Moe talking in the bedroom, when Fat Moe says: "I would have bet everything on you." and Noodles says, "You would have lost."

Obviously, 1968 Noodles and "Secretary Bailey" in the mansion.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Belkin on July 22, 2004, 03:19:26 PM
I like 1968 Noodles and Fat Moe talking in the bedroom, when Fat Moe says: "I would have bet everything on you." and Noodles says, "You would have lost."

Obviously, 1968 Noodles and "Secretary Bailey" in the mansion.
For me, where the older NOODLES opens the suitcase in the station. Pure cinema! Pure Leone!


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Belkin on July 24, 2004, 04:51:57 PM
For me, where the older NOODLES opens the suitcase in the station. Pure cinema! Pure Leone!
Also, JAMES WOODS, losing it at the beach.....CLASSIC SCENE! :o


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: elgado on July 24, 2004, 05:34:03 PM
Yeah, just about all the "you're crazy" scenes are classic  ;D


for me, the most memorable scenes:

- His meeting with Deborah after getting out of jail.

- When he's ordering some food in the bus station and there's a man cleaning the floor, another sleeping, and another eating...someone here noted the symbolism involved, and since then, its a helluva memorable scene

- When Noodles looks at "Secretary Baily's" son.

- When Noodles and Max eye each other for the first time in 35 years.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Belkin on July 24, 2004, 06:25:21 PM
TO me, Noodles in the phone box, outside of FAT MOES place. CLASSIC LEONE!


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: grandpa_chum on August 02, 2004, 01:00:32 PM
my favorite scene is definitly when noodles goes back to the hole in the wall in the 60's and it flashes back to the first time we see noodles spying on deborah... i love the way we(the camera) travels back and forth slowly through the whole... the cinematography is simply amazing... as with about 50% of all leone shots... the other half are only great


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Film-Junkie Zach on September 03, 2004, 02:18:20 PM
Noodles coming to The Opinium Den and Just smiling as happy as He can be.

There's also the way noodles see things montage and The Way Noodles treats Mr. Bailey. Noodles really knows how to redeem himself.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Belkin on September 03, 2004, 02:40:49 PM
The kid with the cake is a stand-out scene!  8)


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: saeem on September 30, 2004, 02:34:42 AM
This really is a difficult one,there are so many scenes I love in  this movie.I suppose my top 5 bits,in no particular order.would be

The incredibly haunting and beautiful scene near the end when Noodles leaves Deborah,sees Max's son[played by the young Max]and Max appears out of the darkness to look out of that window.Sheer poetry,aided immeasurably of course bythe music

Early on when the old Noodles looks through the peep hole through which he used to observe Deborah,and we flashback to him as a boy looking[all of the flashbacks are wonderfully done,very subtle but efective]

The death of Dominic,what a powerful,moving scene."I slipped"!

The baby swiching scene,one of several really funny scenes in a film that has a general moon of sombreness.

The charlotte rousse scene,nuff said.

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Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: saeem on September 30, 2004, 02:39:51 AM
This really is a difficult one,there are so many scenes I love in  this movie.I suppose my top 5 bits,in no particular order.would be

The incredibly haunting and beautiful scene near the end when Noodles leaves Deborah,sees Max's son[played by the young Max]and Max appears out of the darkness to look out of that window.Sheer poetry,aided immeasurably of course bythe music

Early on when the old Noodles looks through the peep hole through which he used to observe Deborah,and we flashback to him as a boy looking[all of the flashbacks are wonderfully done,very subtle but efective]

The death of Dominic,what a powerful,moving scene."I slipped"!

The baby swiching scene,one of several really funny scenes in a film that has a general moon of sombreness.

The charlotte rousse scene,nuff said.

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There are so many scenes. However, some of my favourite are:-

1) De Niro in the opium den. Even though he has so many regrets and unhappiness, here he finds some temporary peace.

2) Dominic dying - so painful and waste of a young boy's life.

3) Noodles looking through peephole and seeing Deborah - love that he just cannot reach.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Goodfella87 on September 30, 2004, 08:57:43 AM
I'm not sure what my favorite scene is... that is nearly impossible to determine.  I can however name some memorable images from the film:

Deborah dancing in the storage room

Noodles sitting on the rooftop, while Max is 'having fun' with Peggy

Of course Patsy, Cockeye, Dominic, Max and Noodles walking together against the backdrop of the Manhattan Bridge

The End of Prohibition celebrators in their cars at the end of the film

The Chinese shadow puppets

Noodles seen from above smiling through the weaving

Noodles getting out of the limousine and trying to pay the driver after he has raped Deborah

Deborah and Noodles lying outside on the beach

Deborah walking through the Ghetto

All the memorable images during the first Speakeasy scene

The babies seen from above crying as the nurse tries to console them

Noodles and the gang driving past all the scuttled ships and boats after they've shot up the diamond dealers

The slow motion shot as the boys disperse running from Bugsy

That's all for now of course there are more.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: THE BIG MAN on October 02, 2004, 04:08:24 PM
I like Leone's self parody scene with the exchange of glances as Noodles stirrs the coffee, taps the spoon, takes a sip then looks back at them all. It's a great moment of tension, right at the heart of the film. Everything is happening here because all eyes are on Noodles, they want him to be strong, a leader, and even the score Max, but it's not going to happen. The rape and departure scenes have just proceeded this one and we know (and Noodles knows), he has lost Deborah forever. Destined to a life smoking opium and going to bed early
 The stirring of the Coffee cup was invented on the set by De Niro as a sort of homage to previous Leone films.


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Two Kinds of ... on November 06, 2004, 02:05:58 PM
the cake scene.

"Everything coming up roses" as the salt dissolves and the red buoys pop up in the harbor.

The scene where Noodles comes back and Max has bought himself a throne.

The gang and Tuesday Weld get re-acquainted.

The scene where the other gang is dumping gasoline on Jimmy Clean hands

The scenes with Deborah when she's a kid - I didn't like McGovern as grown-up Deborah

Death of Dominic

Noodles returns to New York



Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Film-Junkie Zach on July 17, 2005, 10:42:34 AM
I would also like to add the shot of the young boys walking between the buildings and bridge. That's the most memorable scene. You see it on the front cover of DVD, the poster, the trailer, and on documentarys.

Once Upon A Time In America is the best film ever.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Groggy on July 17, 2005, 03:16:43 PM
I'll rewatch this movie tomorrow, but I'll add my two cents now, because there are a few scenes from this film which have never left me from my first viewing. . .

- The scene where young Noodles and Max are beaten by Bugsy and his thugs - and Deborah watches.
- The Charlotte rousse
- Dominic's death and Noodle's revenge
- The image of Burt Young getting blasted in the eye
- The rape scene (not saying I liked it, but it was memorable)


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Pesci on July 24, 2005, 05:08:19 PM
Watched the film today again and another great memorable scene was definitely Burt Young telling his "cock insurance"-story. The way he delivered it - perfect!


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Groggy on July 25, 2005, 06:26:16 AM
Watched the film today again and another great memorable scene was definitely Burt Young telling his "cock insurance"-story. The way he delivered it - perfect!

Oh I love the cock insurance!  "Life is funnier than sh!t" - classic line!


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Pesci on July 25, 2005, 01:58:19 PM
I also loved Joe Pesci in that part.
"The four horseman of the apocalypse. Have you seen that movie, Joe? It's a good movie."  :)


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Groggy on July 25, 2005, 04:53:55 PM
I also loved Joe Pesci in that part.
"The four horseman of the apocalypse. Have you seen that movie, Joe? It's a good movie."† :)

Well, I could've guessed that you felt that way. . .  ;) Personally, though, I think they should've used him more.  A memorable cameo no doubt, but still. . .


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Poggle on July 25, 2005, 05:21:59 PM
-Noodles' introduction in the Chinese theater with the flashbacks and clips of the night of the heist and the gang dead on the street.
-Max and Noodles' beating*
-Noodles' arrival at the speakeasy
-Pesci and Young's scene
-The dinner and dance with Deborah
-The rape scene*

* = Not exactly enjoyable, but in all Leone movies there's reference to beatings and rape and this movie did it with the most effect and impact.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Juan Miranda on July 25, 2005, 06:05:06 PM
For me its Noodles return to Fat Mo's as an old man. We have that fabulous, long crane shot of Mo closing up. The phone rings (we know who it is) and the crane drops down to De Niro in the phonebox. We then have Mo's shocked face, and finally, when he opens the door, a puff of smoke, and De Niro practically chucks a bucket of freezing water over the whole emotion of the thing by declaring "I brought back the key to your clock."

Its one of my fave crane shots ever, beaten only by Orson Welles legendary opening for TOUCH OF EVIL.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Poggle on July 25, 2005, 06:28:23 PM
That's one scene in the movie that seems to be very different than the rest of the movie.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Juan Miranda on July 25, 2005, 07:22:45 PM
I guess it is. Possibaly because Leone is brilliant at montage, he'll gladly use 10 set ups where another director will only 3 or 4. In this case though, much of the action is covered in one continuous, though fluid, set up, with just a short series of mid shots and one close up following it.

I've always been interested in Mo's relationship with the Latino guy who he hastily gives money to, too get rid of him. It's as though we are seeing the new gang on the block, who have come along and taken over from the old Jewish mob, just as they took over from Bugsy's (Irish?) gang. Noodles even notices a group of them gambling in the street in an earlier scene.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Pesci on July 26, 2005, 07:51:04 AM
I guess it is. Possibaly because Leone is brilliant at montage, he'll gladly use 10 set ups where another director will only 3 or 4. In this case though, much of the action is covered in one continuous, though fluid, set up, with just a short series of mid shots and one close up following it.

I've always been interested in Mo's relationship with the Latino guy who he hastily gives money to, too get rid of him. It's as though we are seeing the new gang on the block, who have come along and taken over from the old Jewish mob, just as they took over from Bugsy's (Irish?) gang. Noodles even notices a group of them gambling in the street in an earlier scene.

I never understood why Moe threw out the 4 (3?) guys but  let the Latino guy in. He even re-filled his glass. Then when Noodles phoned he also threw him out.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Groggy on August 22, 2005, 06:42:27 AM
Another bit I liked was right before the gang executes Joe and his thugs at the dockyard. . . James Hayden's only real big scene in the movie.  He walks over to Joe's car with a goofy grin on his face, looking like he's chewing on a wad of gum, looking for all the world like an innocent teenager/young man, and then - BLAM!  He whips out his gun and blows Joe's eye out.  Wow.  But I agree with the other person on this thread who said it, this scene is the most definitely Leone one, with no music, natural sounds (the seagulls), lots of suspenseful build-up, and only a few brief lines of dialogue before an explosive climax.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: redyred on August 22, 2005, 10:00:14 AM
Another bit I liked was right before the gang executes Joe and his thugs at the dockyard. . . James Hayden's only real big scene in the movie.† He walks over to Joe's car with a goofy grin on his face, looking like he's chewing on a wad of gum, looking for all the world like an innocent teenager/young man, and then - BLAM!† He whips out his gun and blows Joe's eye out.† Wow.† But I agree with the other person on this thread who said it, this scene is the most definitely Leone one, with no music, natural sounds (the seagulls), lots of suspenseful build-up, and only a few brief lines of dialogue before an explosive climax.

Agreed. I'd also say "Nah... Kids' stuff" is one of the coolest - and best delivered - lines in the whole film.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on August 27, 2005, 08:40:10 AM
For me, if only for Carlo Simi's set design it's the scene/s in the opium den


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Juan Miranda on August 27, 2005, 07:57:44 PM
That's one scene in the movie that seems to be very different than the rest of the movie.
Thinking about it since Delli Colli's death, there is an almost identical sequence in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST when Jill arrives at the station.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Groggy on September 02, 2005, 04:21:25 PM
Since no one said it yet (surprised?), I will add another one: the "Song of Songs" scene between young Noodles and Deborah.  Seriously, that has got to be some of the best child acting I've ever seen.  JC and Scott Tiler kicked ass in this movie, and that part in particular.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Alan Shearer 9 on September 02, 2005, 06:10:28 PM
Thinking about it since Delli Colli's death, there is an almost identical sequence in ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST when Jill arrives at the station.

I think there is another bit in OUATITW repeated in OUATIA, when the asian woman walks past the camera to start the scene in the tavern in OUATITW, I think it's identical and the same woman to start the scene in the opium den in OUATIA. Sorry if that doesn't make sense.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: HEX on September 21, 2005, 08:16:21 PM
THE MOST MEMORABLE SEEN IN THIS BEAUTIFUL MOVIE

IS WHEN YESTERDAY IS PLAYING ON A PIANO IN THE BACKGROUND JUST COMING OUT OF NOODLES FLASHBACK OF EARLIER HAPPIER DAYS WITH HIS BEST FRIEND MAX WHO HE STANDS BEFORE AGAIN BUT DOES NOT EXCEPT IT.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Dlanor on November 07, 2005, 11:52:01 AM
I rewatched the movie lately and I found an amazing scene of cinema. A good scene in a cinematic sense is a scene where only images make understand things without the use of words: the images, the editing as a langage on its own is the cinema.
 And the scene after Dominic slept is amazing in this sense. Noodles kills the man and the policemen. Then we see him in a police cab, wich goes right through a jail entrance, with his friends who are watching him powerless. A great and simple composition in the shots.
 This scene is maybe the most beautifull, WITHOUT A WORD we see the wheel of destiny, the causes and effects, we understand that he will spend  dozen of years in jail, we really feel the wasting of the youth, that nothing will ever be the same. And it also works thanks to the beautifull Morricone score and this particular white light.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 17, 2005, 06:04:38 AM
I'm watching this again on Saturday but for me at this moment in time, its the moment just before the Intermission when Noodles sees Deborah leave. An amazingly emotional scene backed by excellent direction, cinematography and music.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Groggy on November 20, 2005, 06:59:54 AM
After rewatching the movie again, I'd agree with the Speakeasy scene - one hell of a way to (re)introduce all of the main characters as adults.

Also, the beautiful shot of Deborah (right before the "Song of Songs" scene) walking through the street, into the huge crowd, as Noodles watches, with "Deborah's Theme" playing on the soundtrack.  Breathtaking.  ;)


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: C Youngblood on November 27, 2005, 04:46:06 AM
The scene when Dominic gets killed. It's so powerful and I cried lika a little baby. :'(

Noodles smile inte the last scene. ;D

When Noodles is watching Deb dance. :)

The rape scene at the bank. :o


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Zane on June 28, 2006, 10:38:54 AM
All of the above!!!
A scene I have always loved is when Noodles visits the tomb of his friends. It really makes me feel sad. But can anybody here tell me what is going on with Noodles and Ennio Morricone`s music in there? On two occasions he looks up to the ceiling whilst the music is playing. He looks slightly annoyed closes the door and the music stops. Itís almost as if he can here the music. Somebody please try and explain this. It has always intrigued me?


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Cusser on June 28, 2006, 12:07:54 PM
At the tomb, I always thought the shot of the keys swaying could've been done better, looked a little artificial to me. 


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Klucha on July 11, 2006, 09:06:17 AM
The scenes how life has changed after 35 years of going to bed early.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Silenzio on September 26, 2006, 05:51:31 PM
To answer the original poster, what's the most memorable scene? Two words:

"I slipped."


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Kurugen on September 28, 2006, 07:40:14 PM
To answer the original poster, what's the most memorable scene? Two words:

"I slipped."

lol


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: SimRob on September 28, 2006, 07:43:16 PM
All of the above!!!
A scene I have always loved is when Noodles visits the tomb of his friends. It really makes me feel sad. But can anybody here tell me what is going on with Noodles and Ennio Morricone`s music in there? On two occasions he looks up to the ceiling whilst the music is playing. He looks slightly annoyed closes the door and the music stops. Itís almost as if he can here the music. Somebody please try and explain this. It has always intrigued me?



Zane,
Noodles can hear the music in that scene. When he's looking at the ceiling he's looking at a speaker, out of which is coming the music, Cockeye's Theme. †Noodles opens and closes it to see what happens to the music. The music stops when the door closes and starts again when he opens it.

I think this is when Noodles starts to suspect Max is still alive, or if he suspected before, this is more confirming evidence. Who else could know the music?

Simon


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: namelessstranger on June 12, 2007, 04:36:49 PM
Watching this wonderful epic again on DVD has I guess refreshed us all. So I thought it would be a good time to ask you guys what you think is your favourite and most memorable scene in the film?
Yet again I laughed until I nearly cried at the Chief Aiello baby-switching scene!
And the scene in the station, when Noodles leaves for exile and returns thirty years later always gets me.
But my favourite has to be that quite beautiful scene in which young Patsy slowly eats that cream cake (a charlotte mousse with whipped cream) rather than get laid.
I know that there really are so many. But what scene really does it for you?
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Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: dave in milwaukee on July 18, 2007, 11:56:49 PM
The ending is definitely one of the most moving endings to a film I've seen, but another pick of mine is when Noodles goes to the train station where Deborah's leaving, after he raped her.  Watching the train pull her away like that--with her eyes on Noodles's, pulling the shade down--just says so much about his utter loss, that HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR.  It's heartbreaking.  And then the camera turns to Noodles, watching her go.  Finally he turns away, with that mournful music, and then it goes to the intermission, which is perfect.  Lets it all soak into the audience.

Another favorite (not really a scene, though) is when Noodles enters the room with "Secretary Bailey" near the end, and Max turns around to face him, and we see Noodles's face.  De Niro expresses so much in one look it blows me away every time.  The way it feels to see his old friend after 35 years, the friend that he thought he'd killed and now had apparently betrayed him, is expressed in his face so much better than I could possibly put into words.  De Niro's acting all the way through the film is incredible in its subtlety.

And of course the rape scenes are memorable in the worst way.  The one with Deborah is particularly awful, but the one in the jewler's is also done really well, as we see Max and Patsy look over the jewels ("nice matzo balls") while we hear Carol's voice transform from horrified screams into sensual moans.  And now I've gone on much too long... anybody could just go on and on about the memorable parts of the film.

These are my picks for the most dramatic and symbolic moments in the film:

1. Noodles's expresion when he sees Max's son, David, and now realizes that Secretary Bailey and Max are the same person, that Max is actually still alive, and that Max is the one who brought him back to NYC.

2. Noodles's expression when he first sees Bailey/Max's face after all these years of believing he had caused Max's death. Even though Noodles had already figured out the connection by seeing Max's son, David, nothing could prepare Noodles for the shock of actually coming face-to-face again with Max after all these years.

3. The scene where Noodles and Deborah sit down together and she  reads "My Beloved" to him. Then they are interrupted by Max, and she says "go ahead, your mother's calling you." After Noodles and Max are beaten up by Bugsy and his friends, Deborah has locked the door and he can't get back in (remember she had earlier left the door open for him, when her father and brother went to the synagogue and her father gave her the key and left her in charge). This symbolizes that he has chosen the path of evil over pureness and goodness (as represented by Deborah) and now as a result she has shut him out of her life forever. 

4.  The scene where Max and Noodles turn from potential enemies into friends, when they unite for the purpose of daling with a common enemy--Fartface the cop, and Max tells his Fartface and then Max's mother that Noodles is Max's uncle. They realize at that point that they are kindred spirits and need each other to succeed.

5.  After Max and Noodles fall out of the boat and Noodles is frantically looking for Max, fearing that he has drowned. . . . and Max looks down at him from the boat and says, "where would you be without me?"

6. The "stink of the streets" scene where Sharkey tells Max that he's carrying dead weight--this is the beginning of the end of Noodles and Max's relationship.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: mal247 on July 19, 2007, 12:21:38 PM
All great scenes.  I suppose it's a bit of a cop out but there are so many memorable scenes, it's difficult to pick out one or two.  Leone was certainly a master at building suspense and matching music to action.  I like all those plus the great transitions and match cuts.

It's probably easier to identify the scenes that are not that special.  Max collects Noodles from prison and invites him to view the stiff in the back of the hearse.  So far so good but at the end of the scene Max makes a throwaway remark to a passerby who gives a puzzled look to camera - it looks like a bad scene from a carry on movie.   :)


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 19, 2007, 12:29:30 PM
I don't know about the most memorable scene, but I can easily say the most memorable shot in the film is the one with the Williamsburg bridge.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: moviesceleton on July 19, 2007, 12:36:18 PM
All great scenes.  I suppose it's a bit of a cop out but there are so many memorable scenes, it's difficult to pick out one or two.  Leone was certainly a master at building suspense and matching music to action.  I like all those plus the great transitions and match cuts.

It's probably easier to identify the scenes that are not that special.  Max collects Noodles from prison and invites him to view the stiff in the back of the hearse.  So far so good but at the end of the scene Max makes a throwaway remark to a passerby who gives a puzzled look to camera - it looks like a bad scene from a carry on movie.   :)
I think that was a nice touch. It's like a piece of Leone's early, less serious films, in middle of this grand and serious epic. I like it.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: mal247 on July 19, 2007, 01:02:38 PM
I don't know about the most memorable scene, but I can easily say the most memorable shot in the film is the one with the Williamsburg bridge.

I thought it was the picture with the Manhattan bridge in the background that people tend to like.

I don't mind the rest of the scene with the stiff in the back of the hearse, just the way it ends with the passerby looking at the camera puzzled.  :)


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 19, 2007, 01:05:36 PM
I thought it was the picture with the Manhattan bridge in the background that people tend to like.

I don't mind the rest of the scene with the stiff in the back of the hearse, just the way it ends with the passerby looking at the camera puzzled.  :)

That bridge is called the Williamsburg bridge.


And that scene was done that way on purpose. The puzzled looking man is in fact an old comedian, at least that's what my dad told me.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: mal247 on July 19, 2007, 01:28:00 PM
That bridge is called the Williamsburg bridge.

Really? I think it was Cigar Joe who pointed out that the vertical uprights of the Williamsburg bridge lean in towards the top whilst the uprights of the Manhattan bridge remain parallel. Also on the Williamsburg bridge there are X shaped support struts between the uprights.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/wbridge.jpg)(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mbridge.jpg)


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: PowerRR on July 19, 2007, 06:31:50 PM
The death of Dominic and the shots before it with the bridge.

Either that or when Dominic went to give the pastry to the girl. He waits out the room and begins to eyeball it, beginning to eat it himself. I don't know why, but that scene is just so beautiful.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on July 19, 2007, 07:06:23 PM
The death of Dominic and the shots before it with the bridge.

Either that or when Dominic went to give the pastry to the girl. He waits out the room and begins to eyeball it, beginning to eat it himself. I don't know why, but that scene is just so beautiful.

I would have to agree with rr. I also love when he sees Debroah for the first time after all those years. Amazing scene.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: dave in milwaukee on July 20, 2007, 03:29:22 AM
The death of Dominic and the shots before it with the bridge.

Either that or when Dominic went to give the pastry to the girl. He waits out the room and begins to eyeball it, beginning to eat it himself. I don't know why, but that scene is just so beautiful.

Actually, that was Patsy, not Dominic, who is in that scene with the Charlotte Russe while sitting outside Peggy's door.


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: mal247 on July 21, 2007, 04:36:52 AM
The puzzled looking man is in fact an old comedian, at least that's what my dad told me.

The puzzled looking man is Joey Faye (listed in cast as adorable old man) - he seems to
specialize in startled expressions.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/joeyfaye2.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/joeyfaye.jpg)


Title: Re: Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: Pier on July 23, 2007, 04:53:51 PM
Hi

for me the best moment is "Been going to bed early"

And yes it's the Manhattan Bridge, viewed fom Water street/Washington street in "Dumbo" area - i'm going there next september!!!!

Pier


Title: Re:Most memorable scene in this film?
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 03, 2012, 02:48:16 PM
I always liked the Noodles Returns sequence with Fat Moe, Noodles thinks that Fat Moe made off with the money but finds out that he's on his ass worse than ever.

cj, your post made me laugh like hell, 9 years later ;D ;D ;D

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