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Title: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on October 27, 2006, 07:00:18 AM
I've heard about it from my grandma, who said she liked it a lot. She doesn't remember what was its name and generally not even the plot. She only knows the hero was travelling and selling onion and smeled of it terribly, which caused nobody dared to fight with him, or something like that. Do you have any idea what could that be? She said it could be Italian.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: titoli on October 27, 2006, 07:23:56 AM
Come on! These are not question to be posted here! Visitors might think we are amateurs!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0072785/



Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on October 27, 2006, 07:32:14 AM
Thanks a lot, maybe I am amateur. ;)


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: titoli on October 27, 2006, 07:38:39 AM
Yeah, but the trick is not showing it.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on October 27, 2006, 07:42:52 AM
Many films have different names in Czech or aren't available here, you know... I haven't found it on Czech film database. Though it must be available in Czech, at least in TV or cinema archives, because how would my grandma have seen it if it wasn't?


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on October 27, 2006, 08:14:37 AM
Hm... I really am amateur and I'm not hiding it, because this was really stupid from me... it is on the Czech database, only with different year.

Anyway, thank you again, a lot, with this stupidity of mine I would never find it. ;D


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: Banjo on October 27, 2006, 11:15:28 AM
Ha,ha i watched this the other day and Cry Onion is nowhere near as bad as its cracked up to be-in fact its a total hoot. :D
Franco Nero plays an eccentric onion farmer called Onion with an ok-ish James Stewart like voice overdubbed and he's in a battle with some greedy oil barons over a piece of land.With oodles of sight gags,slapstick and speeded up fun this is more Keystone Cops/Chaplin territory than Django but Nero  armed with his onions which he crushes to squirt them like water pistols is very good,the film very watchable and definately funny in places.
Anyone who enjoyed Tomas Milian in the Providence films shouldn't overlook this equal oddity. ;)


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on October 27, 2006, 11:29:26 AM
Banjo, could you explain me what hoot means? ;D The wordbook I use says something, which probably has nothing to do with this meaning...
However, I'm glad my grandma wasn't the only one to like it. ;) I only wonder how to see it.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: titoli on October 27, 2006, 12:31:59 PM
I saw the first part and never found the will to see the second. The problem is this is not Nero's territory, maybe not even Terence Hill's. But maybe in czech turns up better.

Marmota, see definition number 3 at noun:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/hoot



Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on October 27, 2006, 01:00:53 PM
Thank you.

Grandma obviously has soft spot for western parodies, she also liked Support Your Local Sheriff and Lemonade Joe (but said the first two were better because no one was singing in them.) Unfortunatelly, I haven't seen the first two, so I cannot compare. I only can say, that I'm convinced Lemonade Joe must be better in Czech. Only this one scene that's on IMDb...

Grimpo: Allow me to introduce my collaborators. This is Coyote Kid, and this is Pancho Kid.
Lemonade Joe: I do not care for your kids.

In Czech the word he actually uses is "kydy" and that means something like guff, bull-you-know-what. It's said "Are you kidding?" in English, so the evidence is still there, but it's not so obvious.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: Banjo on October 27, 2006, 02:43:27 PM
The problem is this is not Nero's territory, maybe not even Terence Hill's.
Don't  see why this shouldn't be Nero's territory as he's proved with his other sw's he's more than comfortable with comedy and he was obviously having a hoot in making this film.
Despite its reputation i don't think a movie involving Enzo Castelari and Franco Nero can be all that bad and i can see kids or fans of the silent comedy era absolutely loving this moving.Its certainly holds the attention more than certain other sw's i've seen recently.Tonight  i just finished watching Alive Or Preferably Dead starring Giuliano Gemma which was ok if a little dull-but Cry Onion was definately more fun. ;)


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: titoli on October 27, 2006, 06:48:10 PM
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he's proved with his other sw's he's more than comfortable with comedy


Probably. But is comedy comfortable with him?

No, I think comedy is for Gemma or Milian or Hill\Spencer. But Nero: he's not an actor (we went into this before) so he must play, in my opinion, only taciturn revenge heroes.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: Banjo on October 28, 2006, 05:10:07 AM
But Nero: he's not an actor (we went into this before)
  Where?-i must've overlooked this.He must have a reasonable reputation as an actor judging by his filmography.I've seen next to nought (i think only Die Hard 2 ::) ) outside of his westerns but i was very impressed with his acting in Man,Pride and Vengeance.
About the comedy-weren't you impressed with Nero in Mercenary or Companeros.Nero was also very effective with the more slapsticky stuff in Long Live Your Death.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: titoli on October 28, 2006, 06:52:00 AM
No, he just exaggerates his facial mimicry, never in accord with the hang of the scene. I think I discussed this in relationship with Eastwood (another non-actor) but maybe you didn't enter that discussion.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on August 24, 2010, 02:56:46 AM
More old threads to revive!

I've finally seen this. I can see why grandma likes it, but from her choice, I enjoyed both Lemonade Joe and Support Your Local Sheriff much more. This is too over-the-top for me. My sister, who can swallow much more in the crazy comedy genre than I can, said she didn't like the dirtyness of the whole thing. As you can guess, she's not really a fan of spaghetti westerns, but as far as I know, she liked both My Name Is Nobody and They Call Me Trinity. But she seemed to like this even less than me, and seeing how much she's into crazy comedies, I think that says something.
Still it's not so bad as this would make you think. It just isn't everyone's cup of tea (or onion juice).


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: stanton on August 24, 2010, 05:36:27 AM
Do we really want to see Franco Nero with curly hair?

Do we really want to see Nero imitating Terence Hill, but being rather stiff legged whilst bouncing around compared to Hill or Gemma?

Are we really interested to get the confirmation that Donati and Vincenzoni shouldn't have tried to write a comedy?

Do we really want to see a Castellari comedy?

And if he does one, why there are less fistfights than in his "serious" SWs, now that he made the type of films in which fistfights are never out of place?

Do we really want to see silly western comedies instead of real westerns?

So many questions, so little answers ...

In fact it ain't that bad. It was lavishly produced (in relation to the usual SW budget), and was probably better directed than several of Castellari's better westerns. It ain't very funny, but was a moderate success in Italy nevertheless.
I especially like a slapstick scene with Nero on a bike trying to escape 3 gunmen on horses, which is slightly hilarious.

It is first of all a comedy and only in 2nd regard also a western, so I would recommend Cipolla Colt only for the real trainspotters amongst the SW fans.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: cigar joe on August 24, 2010, 05:57:33 AM
I've never seen it, like you I'm partial to serious Westerns.

marmota if you like Comedy Westerns watch:

 "The Hallelujah Trail" with Burt Lancaster & Lee Remick and "Going South" with Jack Nicholson & Mary Steenburgen, and "North To Alaska" John Wayne, Ernie Kovacks, Capuchin,  my wife also likes "McKilntock" John Wayne & Maureen O'Harra also "The Villain" with Kirk Douglas. O0


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on August 24, 2010, 06:21:57 AM
Thank you for the recommendations, CJ!

Also, I've noticed my sister rated this 4/5 on CSFD, and I've remembered she said something like "It's really good for its genre, it's just not my cup of tea, so if I'm to be fair, I should give it that rating."


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 05, 2010, 01:09:56 AM
I've read only the last couple replies...

has anybody mentioned the fantastic soundtrack?

This has similarities to the Providence films being that we have genre heavy weights (Nero and Milian) headlining looney Tune esq. Westerns.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: marmota-b on April 21, 2013, 06:40:10 AM
Thinking back, this has a lot of common with the later films by the makers of Lemonade Joe, Adéla ještě nevečeřela and Tajemný hrad v Karpatech, although it has less of the... steampunk?, and obviously still works within the confines of a SW (just like Adéla is a whodunnit), though it stretches them a lot.


Title: Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
Post by: Sundance on May 23, 2014, 09:56:43 AM
(http://www.spaghettiwesterndvds.com/screenshots/cipolla-colt-koch-media-bluray-1h21m26s.jpg)