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Title: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: The Peacemaker on December 02, 2006, 01:40:44 PM
I saw this movie a week ago because I heard lots of great things about the film.

I wasn't impressed with it. I liked the car chase of course, and the acting was fantastic ( how can Steve McQueen and Robert Vaughn be bad? ) but everything else seemed pretty cheap. The girl character played by Jaqueline Bissett seemed sooooooooo tacked on that it was laughable, she served no purpose in the film.

I didn't like it that much. I'd give it a 2 out of 5.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 02, 2006, 02:16:48 PM
I like Bullitt but I think The French Connection is far more superior film.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Tim on December 03, 2006, 11:44:57 AM
  I enjoy Bullitt a lot, but I'll be the first to admit it has flaws, most notably the story.  It took me to the fourth or fifth time watching the movie to finally piece together what was happening.  But really, the plot is not that necessary because it seems they were going for a "style" movie.  And this movie definitely has a very cool style to it.

  McQueen and Vaughan are great, Bissett is decent but isn't given much to do, Simon Oakland is always entertaining, and McQueen buddy Don Gordon is solid as Delgetti.

  Oh, and the car chase is okay, I guess.  ;)
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Beebs on December 03, 2006, 05:50:39 PM
Bullitt is definetly one of my favorites. I love Steve McQueen so... It's no surprise.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on December 04, 2006, 04:24:21 PM
Yeah, I'm a big Steve McQueen fan and love Bullitt.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on November 30, 2007, 12:51:31 PM
CinemaRetro put me on to this:

Better than the crappy toy car that came with my Casino Royale DVD.......
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Ben Tyreen on November 30, 2007, 04:39:12 PM
  Not gonna lie, dave, the thread title scared the shit out of me.  For a second, I thought a remake was being planned for Bullitt. :o  I can deal with certain movies being remade, but not this one.  Anyhoo, the new Mustang model looks pretty badass. 8)
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on November 30, 2007, 05:21:02 PM
Not gonna lie, dave, the thread title scared the shit out of me.  For a second, I thought a remake was being planned for Bullitt. :o

Who didn't.  ;D
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on December 01, 2007, 12:48:58 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Kurug3n on December 01, 2007, 01:18:35 AM
I remeber a long while back that there was supposed to be a remake with Wolfgang Peterson as the director and Brad Pitt as Bullitt.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on February 29, 2008, 05:02:28 PM
Tip-o-the-hat to Cinema Retro for the link to this:
Bullitt: Chasing the detective's mystique
In looks, ride, even in sound, a Ford Mustang edition pays proper homage to a legend.
By Dan Neil
Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

February 27, 2008

Not to go all Pauline Kael on you, but "Bullitt" -- the 1968 crime drama starring a Ford Mustang GT390 and some guy named Steve McQueen -- is a fairly tedious bit of Aquarian cinema: the chicka-chicka-waah soundtrack, the inscrutable plot, the anaerobic dullness of every second that McQueen is off-camera.

"Bullitt" scrabbles to its minor footnote status in film history on two counts. The first: It marks the only time any man ever looked cool in a cardigan -- McQueen should have gotten the academy's knitwear award. The second is the movie's remarkable seven-minute chase scene, with real cars (the Mustang and a black Dodge Charger), real drivers and real stunts, no special effects. The only blue screen in this movie is the perpetual scrim of cigarette smoke.

McQueen -- who would have turned 78 this March -- made some fine movies, and some of his movies have great car action in them, but rarely, if ever, do the two qualities overlap. McQueen's magnum opus, "Le Mans," is about as strange a movie as can be found. The dialogue, such as it is, could be transcribed onto an index card. The plot is somewhere between furtive and nonexistent. It's like Samuel Beckett at 200 mph. And yet, it's a completely captivating document about endurance racing at its most glamorous. If you know what a Porsche 917 or a Ferrari 512M is, then odds are "Le Mans" is one of your all-time favorite films. Only please, don't sit next to me on a plane.

Personally and professionally, I try very hard to separate Steve McQueen the actor -- who was never better than in "Papillon" -- and McQueen the motorsports idol, the patron saint of petrol, the king of cool, the hero to millions of gray-heads lost in an automotive time warp. Give me a break. I have no doubt that McQueen was a very hip cat. He smoked weed. He drove a Jaguar SS. He absolutely rocked a black turtleneck in a way Tom Cruise could never hope to.

But honestly, people, let's grab a shovel and bury Steve McQueen. The poor man is working harder now than he ever did when he was alive. He is among the highest-earning dead celebrities -- endorsing Tag Heuer watches, for instance -- and the mawkish, ghoulish obsession with McQueen has gone so far that a pair of his Persol sunglasses -- glasses he might, might have worn in "The Thomas Crown Affair" -- sold at auction for more than $60,000. McQueen-omania has officially jumped the shark.

McQueen's brown Ferrari Lusso sold at Pebble Beach last year for $2.3 million, which is easily twice what it would be worth without the McQueen provenance. The person who bought this car, whoever he or she is, is speculating on the rising value of all things McQueen, and I find that kind of distasteful. This is not dancing on McQueen's grave; it's doing the Lindy Hop.

Perhaps the biggest deal the dead McQueen struck recently was his arrangement with the Ford Motor Co. You may remember the 2004 commercials where a digitally reanimated McQueen steps out of a cornfield and jumps into a Mustang and roars off. For 2008, Ford has decided to reanimate the cinematic Mustang. Behold the Mustang Bullitt, a slightly tweaked, de-badged Mustang GT, painted Dark Highland Green and dipped with shameless McQueen nostalgia.

To say I wanted to despise this car is putting it mildly. For starters, it's just another, not very imaginative riff on the Ford Mustang GT, aimed at goobers who've got it so bad for Steve they can't help themselves. It seems exploitative, in other words. Also, Ford has a bad habit of promising that a Mustang special edition -- GT500, Cobra, Shelby, whatever -- will be a limited run and then making more if the orders come in. Ford actually already made a Bullitt Mustang in 2001. The press release for the 2008 Bullitt has weaselly language in it: "A limited production run of 7,700 units is planned." Uh-oh.

So I was pleasantly surprised when I drove the car and found that I really, really liked it. Stunned, actually. This Bullitt -- with a 4.6-liter, 315-hp V8 and a five-speed shifter between the seats -- is way better than the axle-winding lunatic I drove a few months ago, the 500-hp Shelby GT500. You know, sometimes more horsepower is not the answer, particularly when the question is an obsolete chassis with a live rear axle.

What's in a Bullitt? First, there's the dark green paint, which looks terrific, no question (buyers can also get the car in black but that seems like getting a Rolls-Royce without the flying lady). The car is de-badged: no chrome pony, no Ford ovals. The only identifying marking is the word Bullitt in the cross-hair design on the faux filler cap in back. The car is gorgeous, with no scoops, spoilers or ventilating air dams.

The bit of genius in the car, though, is the wheel-and-tire package: five-spoke cast-aluminum "Euroflange" wheels -- whatever that means -- in a gray satin finish, with machined rims of bright alloy. These wheels are a convincing imitation of period-correct Cragar mag wheels. Wrapped around these rims are relatively tall 50-series performance tires. The designers needed tires with taller sidewalls to resemble the bias-ply tires of the '60s Bullitt; the additional benefit is a smoother, more compliant ride. Also, with a little extra give in the tires, the suspension could be firmed up. The Bullitt has a tighter spring-and-shock package, an upgrade Mustangs generally need and enthusiast owners usually order out of the Ford Racing catalog.

Under the hood, a cold-air intake and slightly raised redline (to 6,500 rpm) add up to an extra 15 horsepower over the stock GT (and 325 pound-feet of torque at 4,250 rpm). Making the Bullitt a little quicker off the line, engineers subbed out the stock 3.31:1 rear axle with a 3.73:1 ratio.

And it's quick, all right, not overpoweringly so, but certainly enough to get your attention. But more important, it's all so well matched and balanced. The clutch and shift work flawlessly together, the engine is smooth and tractable. And it's got an amazing sound. Ford's powertrain boffins got a digitally remastered version of the film to re-create the bleak, resonant cackle of the original Bullitt. Dare I say awesome?

Throw in a strut tower brace here, some machine-turned alloy appliqués in the interior over there, and quicker than you can don a cardigan, you've got a Bullitt, which actually does look like the car from the movie. I don't know if McQueen would be proud, exactly, but I know he'd be happy to cash the check.

    2008 Mustang Bullitt
    Base price: $31,075

    Price, as tested: $33,500 (est)

    Powertrain: 4.6-liter, three-valve, OHV V8; five-speed manual transmission; rear-wheel drive

    Horsepower: 315 at 6,000 rpm

    Torque: 325 pound-feet at 4,250 rpm

    Curb weight: 3,500 pounds (est.)

    0-60 mph: 5 seconds

    Wheelbase: 107.1 inches

    Overall length: 187.6 inches

    EPA fuel economy: 15 miles per gallon city, 24 mpg highway

    Final thoughts: Ballistic Steve

Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: cigar joe on February 29, 2008, 05:32:49 PM
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on July 20, 2008, 03:37:24 PM

Classic chase scene set the standard
By Gregory J. Wilcox, Staff Writer
Article Launched: 07/18/2008 01:00:00 AM PDT

The classic chase scene in the 1968 movie "Bullitt" lasted nine minutes and 42 seconds and brought attention to the Mustang GT 390 and the Dodge Charger.

For the Warner Bros. film starring Steve McQueen and Robert Vaughn, the production company ordered two Mustangs and two Chargers to race through the streets of San Francisco.

The Fords, which had 325-horsepower engines, were stripped of all identifying logos.

Veteran racer Max Balchowsky modified the Mustangs' engines, brakes and suspensions so they could keep up with the Chargers, which had 375-horsepower motors, according to various Web sites.

The Chargers, which were purchased at Glendale Dodge, were left pretty much unchanged but got beefier suspensions because of the stunt work.

Director Peter Yates wanted speeds between 75 and 80 mph, but the cars topped out over 110 mph.

McQueen, also a racer, did some of the on-camera driving but professional stuntman Bud Eklins did most of the work.

How can you tell when McQueen is behind the wheel and when Elkins is driving? It's simple.

When interior shots show the mirror, McQueen is driving. When it's not visible, Elkins is behind the wheel.

The black Dodge Charger was driven by Bill Hickman, who also played one of the hit men in the movie and helped with the choreography of the chase.

And McQueen's reverse burnout was not scripted but was left in the movie because it looks so cool.

One Mustang was trashed during filming but the third survived. So where is it?

Good question. Apparently it had three owners - none of them McQueen - and the last one garaged it. And he wanted to remain anonymous.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: T.H. on July 22, 2008, 02:50:35 PM
I'm not a fan of Robert Vaughn, he's absolutely dreadful in Mag. 7.

I don't like Bullitt whatsoever. The chase is well done but everything else is mediocre. I like McQueen just as much as the next guy but I'll never understand why so many praise this film.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Silenzio on September 16, 2008, 03:36:02 PM
Speaking of the car chase scene....

Here it is synched up to Mahavishnu Orchestra's high-energy tune "One Word."

It fits perfectly.

Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 16, 2008, 03:57:33 PM
I saw this movie a week ago because I heard lots of great things about the film.

I wasn't impressed with it. I liked the car chase of course, and the acting was fantastic ( how can Steve McQueen and Robert Vaughn be bad? ) but everything else seemed pretty cheap. The girl character played by Jaqueline Bissett seemed sooooooooo tacked on that it was laughable, she served no purpose in the film.

I didn't like it that much. I'd give it a 2 out of 5.

Why is it that you think Jaqueline Bissett's character was tacked on? That's what is so realistic about the film. Why can't Frank Bullitt have a lady friend?
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Groggy on February 06, 2010, 07:56:35 PM
Bullitt - 6/10 - It's got a neat title sequence, the car chase, okay finale (that put me in mind of Heat), McQueen, and a nice jazzy Lalo Schiffrin score. It also has a meandering, under-developed plot, boring supporting cast (how can you make Robert Vaughn, Jacqueline Bisset and Robert Duvall boring?), and a distinct lack of tension or suspense. Put it in the meh category.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: titoli on April 14, 2011, 03:26:24 PM
Bullitt (1968) First time I saw it in a cinema in mid-'70's: didn't like it so much. Same on tv in the '80's. This time, not dubbed, found it excellent. McQueen is perfect, Vaughan so-so: he's never convincing playing bastards. I wasn't impressed by the car chase first time: this time I jumped on the seat twice. Maybe the last sequence in the airport is a bit long. Still it is much better than that in Heat. 8\10
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: Groggy on April 14, 2011, 04:47:50 PM
Bullitt is mediocre aside from the car chase.
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 14, 2011, 05:19:52 PM
Bullitt is a truly terrific movie. 2 things I did not like: a) the woman absolutely does not belong in the film; b) the writing for Vaughn's part wasn't good. What should have happened was that his character would pretend to be a good guy, and then at the end it would come out that he is a sleaze only interested in personal glory; I think it is a bit unrealistic and caricature-like to have the politician as such a blatant sleazeball from the beginning. But otherwise this is a wonderful movie, I'd give it a 9 out of 10

btw, Roger Ebert's review of Bullitt is particularly great
Title: Re: Bullitt (1968)
Post by: T.H. on April 24, 2011, 04:56:41 PM
I gave this another chance because I really dig Eddie Coyle and saw it for 8 bucks on bluray. It's a good movie with a nice pace, and some Richard Rush type zoom out, rack focus tracking shots. Had Mitchum or especially Lee Marvin starred, I'd probably be a much bigger fan. McQueen doesn't have the natural charisma of those two but is a respectable actor.