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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In The West => Topic started by: Vince D on August 02, 2003, 01:33:18 AM

Title: Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: Vince D on August 02, 2003, 01:33:18 AM
This is buggin me.....at the end, where are Cheyenne and Harmonica riding off to just before cheyenne dies, and why are they going together?

I know this probably seems strange, but it bothers me that I can't figure it out.
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: cigar joe on August 02, 2003, 03:11:45 AM
I believe they are leaving the "west" which is evolving into the present and has no place for them, symbolically represented by the comming of the railroad, and riding off into the legend of the WEST where they can be immortal.
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: El Indio on August 02, 2003, 08:58:18 PM
Agreed. The railroad and Jill represent the new west, while Cheyenne and Harmonica represent the old west. The train enters from the left, and they depart to the right as if being pushed aside in the name of progress. Fantastic closing shot, except for the superimposed "Once Upon A Time In The West" title that meanders across the screen - it's unnecessary and distracts from the camerawork, IMO.
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: Hey Blondie on August 05, 2003, 07:18:43 PM
There is not an old and new West. One of the titles of this film is "There was Once the West" Jill and the train arriving represents the growth of a society. This town runned by Jill is becoming civilized so Harmonica and Cheyenne don't belong here. Morton was also more civilized the Frank which is why he was always telling him that money is more powerful then a gun, but in the West the gun rules.

Harmonica: So you realized you're not a business man after all.

Frank: Just a man!

Harmonica: Ancient race.
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: El Indio on August 06, 2003, 09:59:01 AM
That's the point I was trying to make, whatever the semantics.
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: Jupa on January 02, 2004, 04:44:42 AM
Fantastic closing shot, except for the superimposed "Once Upon A Time In The West" title that meanders across the screen - it's unnecessary and distracts from the camerawork, IMO.

I,for my part,think the OUATITW title at the end is a good solution and also necessary,because the title did not appear at the beginning of the film.
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: deMaie on January 13, 2004, 09:45:57 PM
Hi all

I wondered from memory  ???

Once Cheyenne died, didn't the Harmonica take
another direction than the one they were riding
toward?

Not sure with the above house/station view!
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: Sackett on January 20, 2004, 10:56:47 AM
I  always thought Harmonica was going to turn Cheyenne in  again and collect the reward all over.
Naw, just kidding.  I just thought that they didn't have any more purpose and were going off  to live out whatever life they might could scrape out and not necessarily together either.  Of course, Cheyenne knows its over for him anyway.  He was wanted , and has to leave.
As for Harmonica, the ending seems like the ending of The Searchers.  The main character's purpose has been fulfilled.  Thats it, end of story.
If you wish, its almost like this last movie of Lord of the Rings.  Frodo knows his story is over, and he leaves.
Title: Re:Where are Harmonica and Cheyenne going?
Post by: thatluckyfly on September 29, 2004, 06:18:58 AM
hey all, im new here so bear with me, kay? i figured they're leaving together because: cheyenne is dead an naturally should be buerried, and cheyenne hid his wound all through his visit at jill, and he didn't want harmonica to watch him die. could it be that harmonica realises that cheyenne wouldn't have wanted jill to see him dead so she could start a new life without grief over him?