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Title: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Jon1 on January 29, 2007, 08:04:05 PM
Is there a definitive one?  I can think of very few.  Sofia Coppolla is the only woman ever to be nominated for a Best Director Oscar I believe.

I guess half the reason I made this topic is to provoke somebody to say Leni Riefenstahl.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: The Firecracker on January 29, 2007, 08:06:56 PM
They exist?
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Jon1 on January 29, 2007, 08:09:39 PM
Apparently not!

" "The U.S. Senate is more progressive than Hollywood. Female Senators: 9%, Female directors: 4%." That's according to a study undertaken at San Diego State University..."
--  http://dir.salon.com/story/ent/movies/feature/2002/08/27/women_directors/index.html
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: The Firecracker on January 29, 2007, 08:14:52 PM
I know, it's a joke.


I have seen a few movies directed by the opposite sex myself.

All terrible stuff.

Like this one...

"Gas, food and lodging" by Allison Anders.


Words cannot describe what utter nonsense this movie is.

Coppolla's "LIT" and that virgin movie aren't my cup of tea either.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Jon1 on January 29, 2007, 08:17:35 PM
Which is strange...seeing that I believe that adult females make up the biggest percentage of the movie going public.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Aguirre on January 29, 2007, 08:21:41 PM
Jane Campion is actually amazing, and her film The Piano easily ranks up as one of the best pictures I have ever seen. Really one of the most touching dramas, and housing Harvey Kietel's best performance.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Franks Harmonica on January 30, 2007, 04:41:53 AM
Amy Holden Jones for "Slumber Party Massacre!"

Actually my favorite is Ida Lupino for "The Hitchiker"
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Leone Admirer on January 30, 2007, 05:32:49 AM
Jane Campion is actually amazing, and her film The Piano easily ranks up as one of the best pictures I have ever seen. Really one of the most touching dramas, and housing Harvey Kietel's best performance.

I've never been a fan of Campion, always found her work (especially The Piano) overrated. I agree with Ida Lupino The Hitchhiker is great stuff!
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Juan Miranda on January 30, 2007, 06:07:37 AM
Kiwi film maker Alison Mclean made a superb drama called CRUSH back in 1992, which is well worth tracking down. Marcia Gay Harden made a memorable nutter in it. My fave film by a woman however is IL PORTIERE DI NOTTE, directed by the  Italian Liliana Cavani. It's an intense and extremely controversial portrayal of the bizarre relationship between a former Nazi concentration camp commander (Dirk Bogarde) and his victim (Charlotte Rampling). The thing is a weird and uncomforatble assemblage of Freudian scenarios and the Nazisplotation imigary then rife in Italian exploitation movies.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: CISCO on January 30, 2007, 07:53:43 AM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107756/  can't comment. havent't seen it yet.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Jon1 on January 30, 2007, 12:35:42 PM
So nobody is biting on Leni Riefenstahl, director of the infamous (but revolutionary apparently in terms of film techniques) Nazi propaganda piece, "Triumph of the Will"?
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: CISCO on January 30, 2007, 01:39:23 PM
So nobody is biting on Leni Riefenstahl, director of the infamous (but revolutionary apparently in terms of film techniques) Nazi propaganda piece, "Triumph of the Will"?
TOTW is a giant natzi documentary. it's an awsome piece of work. i can't imagine rene going up to hitler and saying let's do more takes  and this time really get yourself worked up adolf. her subjects are just marching around as we see just how big the natzi war machine had grown.  she did an icredible job of placing the cameras so the enormity of the rallys could be seen.  it's very important what she did so future generations could witness such mass insanity. everytime i see it i think the world isn't going to let this happen much longer and a lot of men are going to be wasted badly.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: grandpa_chum on January 30, 2007, 01:45:20 PM
I hate to say this because I can't stand her in general, but penny marshall ain't bad... and she definitely seems to be the only woman director I can think of that actually has a spot in hollywood, I mean she gets budgets and makes "hollywood" type movies, she's not an independent or anything like that... the only other female directed movie I've ever liked is Tamara Jenkins Slums of Beverly Hills, which I have to give her special credit for because she wrote and directed it.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: CISCO on January 30, 2007, 02:00:09 PM
penny marshall is an exceptional director. i was going to mention her. she's the first female director to make o film that grossed over 100 million dollars.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Juan Miranda on January 30, 2007, 02:23:32 PM
So nobody is biting on Leni Riefenstahl

Well, I might have given her a nibble, she was a good looking woman when she was young. TRIUMPH OF THE WILL has some interesting stuff in it, but overall is tedium beyond belief to sit and watch all the way through. The "dramatised" moments are just embarrassingly bad (the "roll call of the Reich" sequence, f' instance), and the sheer number of painfully fawning speeches going on and on about great Hitler was... (where is the "yawn" emoticon when you need it?)

OLYMPIA is more bearable to watch, and arguably uses more innovative techniques than TOTW, and Leni gets her kit off in it too, but it's still a long haul, she may have denied being a Nazi, buts she was certainly in thrall of the National Socialist sense of theatricality, and her work suffers from an overdoes of it's equal love of bombast, verbosity and silly, drawn out ceremonies.

Totally unrealated, I like Catherine Bigalow's action flick, POINT BREAK, even with Keanu's dumb performance. "I! AM! AN! FBI! AGENT!!"
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Jon1 on January 30, 2007, 03:02:29 PM
Well it's a pretty sad state of affairs when none of the potentional names listed so far are really household names at all.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Juan Miranda on January 30, 2007, 03:57:36 PM
Depends where you live. I imagin Leni is a household name in Germany, even today.

As for the Sally Potter film mentioned earlier, ORLANDO, it starts off quite well, but becomes rather muddled while still making crushingly obvious observations about the differences betwix the sexes. Very nice cinematography by Aleksei Rodionov (who also shot COME AND SEE, which rrpower and myself have been debating recently on the board), and wonderful cossie and production design, given the film's very small budget. It was quite a big art house hit, but Potter has never made anything even remotely entertaining since.

The film also shot Tilda Swinton to (bigger) screen fame, and she is always exquisite to watch. The most bizarre thing I have seen her in was in Cornilia Parker's installation THE MAYBE in The Serpentine Gallery in London, back in '95. Swinton lay asleep in a small glass vitrine for seven days as a live exhibit. Wearing loose trousers and a sweatshirt, seemingly oblivious to the people gawping at her, she stayed awake all night then took sleeping pills to help her conk out for her "matinee performance" in the gallery. It was absolutely fascinating to see, particularly if you were a bloke, as it is only usually our own lovers we see in such an intimate and defenceless state so closely. As I was watching her somebody in the gallery had a baby which started crying and she almost woke up, instead she turned over and carried on dreaming.

Which reminds me of one of THE worst films I've ever seen made by a woman, the Jennifer Lynch (David's daughter) picture BOXING HELENA. Numbingly dim. The fact that Julian Sands was in it should have been a "don't even go there" warning sign enough... NEVER AGAIN!
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: grandpa_chum on January 31, 2007, 09:00:21 AM
penny marshall is an exceptional director. i was going to mention her. she's the first female director to make o film that grossed over 100 million dollars.

what about only? are there others? I wouldn't think so, she's the only one i can think of that did box-office contender sort of stuff.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: CISCO on January 31, 2007, 01:31:21 PM
i got a headache over those duel topics. thought i was seeing double.
nobody gives a rat's ass about leni riefenstahl because she ain't done nothing but make a nuremberg home movie. john0 is a secret agent sent to mess w/ banjo's trilogy thread, of which, i can't find either. i thought this was supposed to be a thread concerning female directors. cool. never a dull moment. i don't have no stinking age card. :'(   

shemp  :D
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: cigar joe on January 31, 2007, 04:10:04 PM
The greatest female director in my book is Lina Wertmuller, first demale director nominared for an Academy Award. If you haven't seen any of her collaborations with Giancarlo Giannini and Mariangela Melato, run down to your nearest video rental place or cue up Netflix for these:

Pasqalino Settebellze (Seven Beauties) (1975)
Swept Away (1974)
Love and Anarchy (1973)
The Seduction of Mimi (1972)

If I had to pick two:

Seven Beauties is the misadventures of one of life's loosers, Pasqalino Settebellze, and how the fickle finger of fate gets him in and out of jams. This character is one of my favorite picaresque performances, second only Tuco Ramierez. If Tuco holds a special place in your heart make room for Pasqalino. lol.

Swept Away is Castaway with an Italian twist.

Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: CISCO on January 31, 2007, 05:20:55 PM
The greatest female director in my book is Lina Wertmuller, first demale director nominared for an Academy Award. If you haven't seen any of her collaborations with Giancarlo Giannini and Mariangela Melato, run down to your nearest video rental place or cue up Netflix for these:

Pasqalino Settebellze (Seven Beauties) (1975)
Swept Away (1974)
Love and Anarchy (1973)
The Seduction of Mimi (1972)

If I had to pick two:

Seven Beauties is the misadventures of one of life's loosers, Pasqalino Settebellze, and how the fickle finger of fate gets him in and out of jams. This character is one of my favorite picaresque performances, second only Tuco Ramierez. If Tuco holds a special place in your heart make room for Pasqalino. lol.

Swept Away is Castaway with an Italian twist.


ahh, were back onto the subject of female directors. thanks cj. i'll have to check this bit of info out.  O0
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: Juan Miranda on January 31, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
So this was remade by Guy fake Cockney thingy fella and his wife Madonna?

No. I havent seen it either.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: cigar joe on January 31, 2007, 09:02:19 PM
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So this was remade by Guy fake Cockney thingy fella and his wife Madonna?

No. I havent seen it either.

Swept Away was remade yes, and like 99% of remakes it was attrocious ;-)

If you choose to see any go for Seven Beauties.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: cigar joe on February 02, 2007, 04:36:04 PM
You all must check out Seven Beauties its even got SW actor Fernando Rey from Companero's a powerful film.
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: cigar joe on February 11, 2007, 09:54:00 PM
Here is Wertmuller's opening sequence for Seven Beauties O0 enjoy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SGvfe9bAUyU
Title: Re: Greatest Female Director of All Time?
Post by: pixelated on February 12, 2007, 02:04:12 AM

Coppolla's "LIT" and that virgin movie aren't my cup of tea either.

i love both of those movies... particularly LIT.. haven't seen her new one, but haven't heard really any good things about it either- other than its nice to look at



Totally unrealated, I like Catherine Bigalow's action flick, POINT BREAK, even with Keanu's dumb performance. "I! AM! AN! FBI! AGENT!!"

i've always thought point break is pretty crazy.. i mean, it was a successful action movie and directed by a woman... its even got a cult following now with midnight showings all over the US.. its a action/surf/heist/existentialism/love story