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Films of Sergio Leone => A Fistful of Dollars => Topic started by: poderator on February 23, 2007, 02:13:41 AM

Title: Final showdown in FOD
Post by: poderator on February 23, 2007, 02:13:41 AM
Maybe you already had discussion about this subject, but I  have one question. Joe first shot the rope, then Ramon's rifle, and finally four Ramon's gunmen. Totall: six bullets. Why does Joe aim at Ramon's rifle when it's empty. We all know from the "Unforgiven" that gunmen in duel against three or four people shoud kill the fastest one first. I know in this showdown, Ramon is the fastest, but his rifle is empty. So Joe could have save him for later. Those four had loaded guns and they were more dangerous for Joe. Why would Joe spend this precious moment in a duel on a empty rifle, when four other guys with a loaded wheapons waiting to kill him? Do you think that Joe's triage in this battle is wrong? 
Title: Re: Final showdown in FOD
Post by: The Peacemaker on February 23, 2007, 10:02:54 AM
Maybe you already had discussion about this subject, but I  have one question. Joe first shot the rope, then Ramon's rifle, and finally four Ramon's gunmen. Totall: six bullets. Why does Joe aim at Ramon's rifle when it's empty. We all know from the "Unforgiven" that gunmen in duel against three or four people shoud kill the fastest one first. I know in this showdown, Ramon is the fastest, but his rifle is empty. So Joe could have save him for later. Those four had loaded guns and they were more dangerous for Joe. Why would Joe spend this precious moment in a duel on a empty rifle, when four other guys with a loaded wheapons waiting to kill him? Do you think that Joe's triage in this battle is wrong? 


It's because shooting the rifle out of Ramon's hand looks cool.   8)
Title: Re: Final showdown in FOD
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on February 24, 2007, 02:33:06 PM
Yeah, that was for stylized reasons. As Peacemaker said, it looked cool.
Title: Re: Final showdown in FOD
Post by: Faisalha9159 on February 24, 2007, 06:16:20 PM
Maybe it was to shock Ramon, or to get a psychoogical advantage as Ramon was always going on about his Winchester rifle.
Title: Re: Final showdown in FOD
Post by: Kurug3n on February 24, 2007, 07:50:04 PM
Maybe you already had discussion about this subject, but I  have one question. Joe first shot the rope, then Ramon's rifle, and finally four Ramon's gunmen. Totall: six bullets. Why does Joe aim at Ramon's rifle when it's empty. We all know from the "Unforgiven" that gunmen in duel against three or four people shoud kill the fastest one first. I know in this showdown, Ramon is the fastest, but his rifle is empty. So Joe could have save him for later. Those four had loaded guns and they were more dangerous for Joe. Why would Joe spend this precious moment in a duel on a empty rifle, when four other guys with a loaded wheapons waiting to kill him? Do you think that Joe's triage in this battle is wrong? 

who says theres only 6 bullets? O0
Title: Re: Final showdown in FOD
Post by: cigar joe on February 25, 2007, 07:33:12 AM
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who says theres only 6 bullets?

With a Colt 45.... The Western Gods  O0
Title: Re: Final showdown in FOD
Post by: poderator on February 25, 2007, 08:24:57 AM
Maybe it was to shock Ramon, or to get a psychoogical advantage as Ramon was always going on about his Winchester rifle.
   I agree. It is the most logical thing. Ramon is almost in love with his rifle. I asked this question because in all of the Man With No Name trilogy Eastwood's character  shows machiavelian logic. I mean he unload Tuco's gun, he waits to see development of the events between Indio and Mortimer. His actions are deliberately slow and  carefuly calculated. When you rush things you make mistakes. Mistakes in the Wild West equals: Death. Clint character's know that they are very fast, but they always have another card in their sleeves.  That bullet is a life saviour in case of misfire.(but I guess there is no misfire in Leone movies ;)