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Title: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 12, 2007, 04:24:18 PM
I thought that if there was any discussion of classic Hollywood westerns it should have it's own thread so we don't have 100's cropping up. In starting it off I thought that I post all the classic non Italian westerns in my collection and you guys could do the same and also discuss specific films that you love.

My Classic Western Collection

The Big Trail
The Plainsman
Dodge City
They Died With Their Boots On
The Ox-Bow Incident
My Darling Clementine
Tall In The Saddle
Red River
Whisperin' Smith
Winchester '73
Stagecoach
Fort Apache
3 Godfathers
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Rio Grande
The Searchers
Seagent Rutledge
Cheyanne Autumn
High Noon
Shane
Bend Of The River
The Far Country
The Man From Laramie
7 Men From Now
Rio Brave
No Name On The Bullet
The Magnificent Seven
Dallas
Springfield Rifle
Hang Em High
The Commancheros
North To Alaska
The Undefeated
The Naked Spur
The Cheyanne Social Club
Firecreek
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
The Son's Of Katie Elder
El Doraldo
True Grit
The Shootist
Ride The High Country
The Wild Buch
The Ballad Of Cable Hogue
Pat Garett and Billy The Kid
Butch Cassidy & The Sundance Kid
Unforgiven
Tombstone
Open Range

Admittedly are perhaps a bit too modern to be included in the classic canon. There are quite a few more I would like to own, quite a few not out on DVD yet and should be out soon. My top ten favourites out of that bunch are:

The Wild Bunch
The Searchers
My Darling Clementine
Shane
The Naked Spur
The Far Country
Stagecoach
High Noon
3 Godfathers
Red River

Whats you guys favourites?


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Silenzio on March 12, 2007, 04:47:57 PM
So this is thread is like a sticky or what? I noticed that no matter what new posts there are on other threads this one stays at the top.

I kind of prefer the 100s of separate threads actually, but whatever.



My classic hollywood western collection:

The Searchers
Stagecoach
Fort Apache
Three Godfathers
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
Ride the High Country
The Wild Bunch
Pat Garrett And Billy the Kid
The Ballad of Cable Hogue

Not much, I know.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 12, 2007, 05:05:18 PM
Yeah I made certain threads I thought that people would find useful sticky.

Still a great collection.  O0


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Silenzio on March 12, 2007, 05:40:13 PM
Yeah I made certain threads I thought that people would find useful sticky.

Still a great collection.  O0

I love all those movies I own (except maybe She Wore A Yellow Ribbon which I just like)

I'm not as avid about buying AW's as SW's because I can just get AWs from netflix anytime.  I will admit... those movies are all gifts (the John Wayne-John Ford Film Collection and Sam Peckinpah's Legendary Western Collection) from my last birthday and last christmas.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: cigar joe on March 12, 2007, 08:18:39 PM
good idea LA  O0

When I get some time I'll list mine.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Sonny on March 13, 2007, 12:47:05 PM
I love all those movies I own (except maybe She Wore A Yellow Ribbon which I just like)

I'm not as avid about buying AW's as SW's because I can just get AWs from netflix anytime.  I will admit... those movies are all gifts (the John Wayne-John Ford Film Collection and Sam Peckinpah's Legendary Western Collection) from my last birthday and last christmas.

The only Peckinpah film i've seen is Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (to be expected I suppose) and I hear that it can't really be considered a western, even though its opening scene might convince you that it is till you get to the part where the mob leaves the hacienda.  So I assume it's certainly not one of the films in Sam Peckinpah's Legendary Western Collection since it's not on your list.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 13, 2007, 12:49:31 PM
It's not included in that great set. If I remembr correctly it's owned my MGM/Sony and not WB's.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 13, 2007, 12:56:32 PM
Also some news on recent DVD releaes, Fox in R1 has released Jesse James (1939), Return of Frank James and The True Story of Jesse James to coincide with the upcoming film The Assasination Of Jesse James, a trailer for which can be found in the Peckinpah set. Rumours are that the PQ has something seriously wrong with it on the first two releases. Will keep you updated on it when I hear more.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Eric on March 13, 2007, 02:02:19 PM
(http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/terrortexas.jpg)

My latest purchase. Script by Dalton Trumbo under a pseudonym. Best duel in the street finale ever.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 13, 2007, 02:04:01 PM
looks interesting, Sterling Hayden is usually a good indicator of an entertaining film (and yes I think Johnny Guitar is entertaining)


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Eric on March 13, 2007, 02:35:07 PM
Know what's an even better indicator of an entertaining film? A man carrying a whaling harpoon to a gunfight.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 13, 2007, 03:15:33 PM
Know what's an even better indicator of an entertaining film? A man carrying a whaling harpoon to a gunfight.

Better then boomerangs in Matalo?


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Silenzio on March 13, 2007, 03:17:38 PM
Nope, but I've seen Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia and I loved it.  I don't think it's as good as The Wild Bunch or Ride the High Country, though.

I have yet to see Straw Dogs or The Getaway.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Tim on March 13, 2007, 03:31:21 PM
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The only Peckinpah film i've seen is Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia (to be expected I suppose) and I hear that it can't really be considered a western, even though its opening scene might convince you that it is till you get to the part where the mob leaves the hacienda.  So I assume it's certainly not one of the films in Sam Peckinpah's Legendary Western Collection since it's not on your list.

  A Susan George fan and you haven't seen Straw Dogs?  Definitely a Peckinpah film worth checking out.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 13, 2007, 03:35:17 PM
This is my AW collection:

1) The Man who Shot Liberty Valance   ( my favorite AW )
2) The Searchers
3) The Shootist
4) True Grit
5) The Sons of Katie Elder
6) El Dorado
7) Rio Bravo
8) The Man from Laramie
9) Night Passage
10) The Far Country
11) The Magnificent Seven
12) 3:10 to Yuma
13) Hang em High
14) Pat Garret and Billy the Kid
15) The Ballad of Cable Hogue
16) Ride the High Country
17) The Wild Bunch
18) Bend of the River
19) High Noon
20) Pale Rider
21) Unforgiven
22) Johnny Guitar


I have a few more that I can't remember and I've seen hundreds more, just don't have them in the collection.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Silenzio on March 14, 2007, 05:07:57 PM
Oh shoot, I completely forgot about Eastwood's AWs!

Add these to my list of AWs:

Hang 'em High
High Plains Drifter
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Pale Rider
Unforgiven


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Banjo on March 15, 2007, 04:58:23 PM
Oh shoot, I completely forgot about Eastwood's AWs!

Add these to my list of AWs:

Hang 'em High
High Plains Drifter
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Pale Rider
Unforgiven
Too flipping right Silenzio! ;)


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on March 16, 2007, 03:24:54 PM
Here's my classic Hollywood western collection

The Searchers
Rio Grande
The Camercheros
Big Jake
Shane
The Unforgiven
Legend of the Lost
The Professionals
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
Major Dundee
The Gunfight at O.K. Corral
High Noon
My Darling Clementine
Red River
The Magnificent Seven
Fort Apache
Jeremiah Johnson
Stagecoach
3 Godfathers
El Dorado
Ride the High Country
The Shootist
True Grit
3:10 To Yuma
Unforgiven
Pale Rider
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Open Range
Tombstone
Wyatt Earp


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: CISCO on March 17, 2007, 03:45:08 PM
(http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/terrortexas.jpg)

My latest purchase. Script by Dalton Trumbo under a pseudonym. Best duel in the street finale ever.
this is one of my all time favorites just for the weirdness of the showdown at the end of the film.  O0 tell us what you think of it. :-X


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 17, 2007, 03:53:07 PM
Terror in a Texas Town was a pretty good AW.

The relationship between the bad guy and his boss reminded me of the Frank/Morton relationship.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: CISCO on March 17, 2007, 04:00:43 PM
Terror in a Texas Town was a pretty good AW.

The relationship between the bad guy and his boss reminded me of the Frank/Morton relationship.
you got that right. good observation ! the bad dude had 2 pistols and all that black leather that made so much noise w/ each little move. he could just stand there breathing and you could hear all that  leather crunching around. the guy really looked like he was in physical pain from his costume.
but the showdown.  :D WOW !


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 17, 2007, 04:05:23 PM
you got that right. good observation ! the bad dude had 2 pistols and all that black leather that made so much noise w/ each little move. he could just stand there breathing and you could hear all hat leather crunching around. the guy really looked like he was in physical pain from his costume.


Oh yeah! I remember having a good laugh about that one!   :D


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on March 17, 2007, 05:30:15 PM
I have yet to see Terror in a Texas Town. I gotta find time to watch this. It's that good huh?


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: CISCO on March 17, 2007, 06:02:47 PM
I have yet to see Terror in a Texas Town. I gotta find time to watch this. It's that good huh?
good isn't the word i'm searching for. of all westerns this TIATT has THE most bizarre duel ever on film. it took me a while to realize these film makers are bloody serious..... :D from here on out i'm dummying up. i don't dare give away the ending. and nobody really likes the film. it drags and drags. the bad guy won't budge or the good guy. but for that split second you have trouble beleiving who wrote this out ?  :-X lol !!
i'm going to have to buy this just to show it my friends. is it on DVD ?


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: T.H. on March 28, 2007, 11:29:20 PM
What's your thoughts on El Dorado? I found it to be a pointless rehash of Rio Bravo without the chemistry and atmosphere.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Tim on March 28, 2007, 11:33:39 PM
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What's your thoughts on El Dorado? I found it to be a pointless rehash of Rio Bravo without the chemistry and atmosphere.

  Don't watch Rio Lobo then, buddy. ;)  Rio Bravo is one of my favorite JW movies so I'm biased, but I do enjoy El Dorado.  Mitchum is pretty good, and I like James Caan over Ricky Nelson.  Not a great movie, but I've always enjoyed it for what it is, entertaining, :) to me at least.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: T.H. on March 29, 2007, 12:04:42 AM
As much as I love Rio Bravo, I freely admit that Ricky Nelson can't act. Hawks did a fine job in hiding him for much of the film though. Caan came off a little stiff and inexperienced in El Dorado but he was obviously much better than Nelson.

Overall, I just felt there were too many plotlines that never materialized, and ED never had any pace or momentum. I didn't hate it or anything, I was just greatly disappointed by it.

I haven't seen Rio Lobo but I will eventually get around to it. I will leave my expectations at the door for that one.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on March 29, 2007, 12:47:14 AM
I didn't think I have time to do inventory of my video library, but LA's list inspired me ;D.

I'm beginning with my John Ford collection.

The Ironhorse
Stagecoach
My Darling Clementine
The Searchers
Horse Soldiers
Sergent Rutledge
Two Rode Together
Rio Grande
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
3 Godfathers
Fort Apache
Cheyenne Autumn
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Wagon Master
How the West Was Won

Non Ford Westerns

Warlock
The Plains Man
Shane
Rio Bravo
High Noon
Ride the High Country
Major Dundee
The Wild Bunch
Culpepper Cattle Co.
Magnificent Seven
Mackenna's Gold
Two Mules for Sister Sara
Vera Cruz
Jeremiah Johnson
Winchester '73
The Outlaw
The Hunting Party
Support Your Local Sheriff!
Support Your Local Gunfighter
Red River
River of No Return
Seven Men From Now
Comanche Station
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
The Big Country
The Bravados
Gun Fight at the OK Corral
From Noon to Three
Unforgiven
Pale Rider
True Grit
Shenandoah



 


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 29, 2007, 05:36:56 AM
Great list Sanjuro  O0


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on March 29, 2007, 10:52:10 AM
Thanks LA.  :)


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Eric on March 29, 2007, 07:51:14 PM
but for that split second you have trouble beleiving who wrote this out ?  :-X lol !

Dalton Trumbo wrote it! Shortly after being blacklisted, under an assumed name!

I got my copy used off of E-Bay....


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: CISCO on March 29, 2007, 08:14:55 PM
Dalton Trumbo wrote it! Shortly after being blacklisted, under an assumed name!

I got my copy used off of E-Bay....
ok. DT. blacklist. not trying to make fun of TIATT. except the bad guy reminds me of brian keith's butler, mr. french, on "family affair". i like this move. sell me your e-bay copy. sterling hayden was priceless  in everything he's done.  when a man w/ a six gun, meets a man w/ a harpoon the man w/ a six gun will be a dead man. eyesight to the blind E.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Profroche on March 31, 2007, 05:14:34 AM
Anyone for Death Of A Gunfighter? I just saw this recently,and really enjoyed it.

I'm a sucker for movies whose protagonists die lousy deaths,however.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Tim on March 31, 2007, 08:58:23 AM
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I haven't seen Rio Lobo but I will eventually get around to it. I will leave my expectations at the door for that one.

  I was able to see this last night on a big screen thanks to a local movie group.  It was the actual reels of film, not a dvd popped into a projector.  The quality wasn't the best and the synching seemed to be about half a second apart, but I liked the movie more this time than I remember liking it in the past. 

  I was disappointed though that Rio Lobo was chosen.  It was chosen because Howard Hawks directed it, so why couldn't they choose Red River or Rio Bravo?  Eh, I shouldn't complain.   It was free, and I got to see a John Wayne movie on the big screen. O0


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: cigar joe on April 01, 2007, 07:46:32 AM
Finally taking some time to list my American Classic Westerns Collection, though I wouldn't call them all classics or all strickly total American Productions:


100 Rifles (DVD)***
Barquero (DVD)***1/2
And Also Starring Pancho Villa (DVD)***
The Bravados (DVD)***1/2
Bandido (VHS)***
The Ballad of Cable Hogue (DVD)****
Dirty Little Billy (DVD)***
Chato's Land (DVD)***1/2
Death Hunt (DVD)***1/2
Doc (VHS)**
El Condor (VHS)***
Hondo (DVD)***1/2
Hombre (DVD)*****
Hang Em High (DVD)***
High Plains Drifter (DVD)***1/2
Hour Of The Gun (DVD)***
How the West was Won (DVD)***1/2
The Hunting Party (DVD)***1/2
Jerimiah Johnson (DVD)***
Lawman (DVD)***1/2
Little Big Man (DVD)***1/2
The Long Riders (DVD)****
The Magnificent Seven (DVD)****
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (DVD)****
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (DVD)*****
Pale Rider (DVD)***
Pat Garett & Billy The Kid (DVD)***
The Professionals (DVD)****
The Quick & The Dead (DVD)**
Ride Lonesome (VHS)****
The Searchers (DVD)*****
Seven Men From Now (DVD)****
Soldier Blue (DVD)***1/2
The Tall T (VHS)****
The Three Godfathers (DVD)****1/2
Tombstone (DVD)****
Two Mules For Sister Sara (DVD)***1/2
The Treasure of The Sierra Madre (DVD)*****
Unforgiven (DVD)****1/2
Valdez is Comming (DVD)***1/2
Villa Rides (VHS)****1/2
Viva Villa (VHS)****
Viva Zapata (DVD)***1/2
The Wild Bunch (DVD)*****
Yellow Sky (DVD)***1/2






Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on April 01, 2007, 10:21:48 AM
Your collection is very impressive, Cigar Joe. Quite unique. Very different from other members.

I forgot I have "Doc" also. I actually like the bitter look at the life of Doc and Wyatt Earp. It's a real Frank Perry touch.

Is "Soldier Blue" uncut?


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: cigar joe on April 01, 2007, 10:56:38 AM
The version I have is the German release "Das Wiegenlied Von Totschlag" 110 mimutes with the Pal speed up so I don't know for sure, but its pretty graphic in the violence.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Sanjuro on April 01, 2007, 11:48:29 AM
I'm aware of the graphic nature of the film. When it was shown on Cinemax years ago, it was censored. I hear that the German version is uncut and good quality in both video and sound. I just wonder how it compares to the R1 DVD which was released last December. 


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on April 01, 2007, 11:52:47 AM
Great collection Joe  O0


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: cigar joe on April 01, 2007, 01:55:05 PM
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I hear that the German version is uncut and good quality in both video and sound. I just wonder how it compares to the R1 DVD which was released last December. 


I've never seen the R1 DVD or a comparison of the two so I don't know Sanjurio.

And LA thanks!


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: The Firecracker on April 02, 2007, 09:49:40 AM


Is "Soldier Blue" uncut?


It's being released very soon.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Eric on April 12, 2007, 02:58:38 PM
Today I picked up the Professionals and Silverado, both quality DVDs, in the Wal-Mart $4.88 bin (along with the horror movie Devil's Backbone).


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: Man with no dame on May 19, 2007, 07:42:36 AM



100 Rifles (DVD)***





  Just saw this one again, recently. Jim Brown looks like a member of the Royal Shakespeare Theatre next to Welch and Reynolds. And Fernando Lamas, well he looked "mahvelous" ;D. Welch's other oater Hannie Caulder, what a waste of Chris Lee, Ernest Borgnine and Jack Elam.


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: cigar joe on May 19, 2007, 08:32:00 AM
 O0


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: cigar joe on May 26, 2007, 07:33:08 AM
New addition list:

100 Rifles (DVD)***
3:10 To Yuma (DVD)****
Barquero (DVD)***1/2
And Also Starring Pancho Villa (DVD)***
The Bravados (DVD)***1/2
Bandido (VHS)***
The Ballad of Cable Hogue (DVD)****
Dirty Little Billy (DVD)***
Chato's Land (DVD)***1/2
Death Hunt (DVD)***1/2
Doc (VHS)**
El Condor (VHS)***
Hondo (DVD)***1/2
Hombre (DVD)*****
Hang Em High (DVD)***
High Plains Drifter (DVD)***1/2
Hour Of The Gun (DVD)***
How the West was Won (DVD)***1/2
The Hunting Party (DVD)***1/2
Jerimiah Johnson (DVD)***
Lawman (DVD)***1/2
Little Big Man (DVD)***1/2
The Long Riders (DVD)****
The Magnificent Seven (DVD)****
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance (DVD)****
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (DVD)*****
Pale Rider (DVD)***
Pat Garett & Billy The Kid (DVD)***
The Professionals (DVD)****
The Quick & The Dead (DVD)**
Ride Lonesome (VHS)****
The Searchers (DVD)*****
Seven Men From Now (DVD)****
Soldier Blue (DVD)***1/2
The Tall T (VHS)****
The Three Godfathers (DVD)****1/2
Tombstone (DVD)****
Two Mules For Sister Sara (DVD)***1/2
The Treasure of The Sierra Madre (DVD)*****
Unforgiven (DVD)****1/2
Valdez is Comming (DVD)***1/2
Villa Rides (VHS)****1/2
Viva Villa (VHS)****
Viva Zapata (DVD)***1/2
The Wild Bunch (DVD)*****
Yellow Sky (DVD)***1/2


Title: Re: The Classic Western Thread
Post by: cigar joe on August 18, 2007, 06:59:05 AM
bump