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Title: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on March 14, 2007, 04:23:39 PM
http://www.lasersedge.com/item_list.asp?tMedia=1&AllRecs=&SortBy=&ReSort=&lstPages=66


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Silenzio on March 14, 2007, 05:11:04 PM
Nice, now everybody will get a chance to watch the forgotten Leone film.  O0


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Sanjuro on March 14, 2007, 05:39:14 PM
Thanks Dave, that's a great news!


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Tuco the ugly on March 14, 2007, 09:04:01 PM
Finally! O0


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Kurug3n on March 14, 2007, 09:04:34 PM
Thats AWESOME!


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on March 14, 2007, 09:56:55 PM
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Thats AWESOME!

if its $10 bucks or less  ;)


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: The Firecracker on March 14, 2007, 10:23:47 PM
well nothing shows up on the link but it's good news anyway.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Sanjuro on March 14, 2007, 10:34:30 PM
I know. You have to type the title in the search box. Incidentally, the price is 10.49 for sale.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: tucumcari bound on March 15, 2007, 12:28:15 AM
I'm excited for this!!! I have yet to see it.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: marmota-b on March 15, 2007, 09:50:47 AM
Nothing to help me too much... but it might mean it could appear here, too, sooner or later...


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 15, 2007, 02:07:15 PM
I'm not very excited about it.

Yeah, it's the Leone film I've never seen before but it won't be like his other films.

Oh well, I'll give it a try anyway.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: marmota-b on March 16, 2007, 11:08:36 AM
Yeah, it's the Leone film I've never seen before but it won't be like his other films.

That's right. But still I would like to see it one day. Maybe to realise how much he changed his style between the two films... anything. Just to see it for once.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 16, 2007, 01:56:39 PM
That's right. But still I would like to see it one day. Maybe to realise how much he changed his style between the two films... anything. Just to see it for once.

Exactly what I was thinking.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Sanjuro on March 16, 2007, 02:21:20 PM
It's nothing special really. There's no distinctive Leone style as you see in his later films. But if you want to know Leone thoroughly by covering his entire filmography, it helps. Top of all, it's still fun to watch. 


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: marmota-b on March 16, 2007, 03:01:16 PM
Top of all, it's still fun to watch. 

That's the important part. O0


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: tucumcari bound on March 16, 2007, 03:14:49 PM
Yes, I know it's not like his other films from what I hear, but I just want to watch it.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on March 17, 2007, 09:47:03 AM
More confirmation: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

BTW, I assume we're getting the 127 minute version, not the Italain one that's 139.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on March 17, 2007, 11:17:18 AM
Its not bad, its very watchable, you even get inklings of the great camera angles to come from the ones that he uses during the swordfights on the Colossus. You'll see what I mean, TCM showed it letterboxed almost about a year ago.

I'd like to see what he did with Sodom & Gomorrah


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 17, 2007, 04:08:40 PM
I'd like to see what he did with Sodom & Gomorrah

Wasn't he only second unit director on that one?


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on March 17, 2007, 10:13:24 PM
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Wasn't he only second unit director on that one?

Yes I think so at first.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on April 25, 2007, 05:27:50 PM
specs are up at dvdtimes.co.uk. Note the Frayling commentary!


The Colossus of Rhodes (1961)
Filmmakers often begin their directing careers with works of limited scale. Sergio Leone (Fistful of Dollars) began with a Colossus. Spectacle is king in The Colossus of Rhodes, Leone’s first credited film as a director. Sun-bronzed heroes (including toga-wearing Rory Calhoun) battle tyranny. Prisoners scramble for their lives in coliseum pageants of doom. Usurpers connive. Revolution erupts. And towering over all the excitement is the mighty bronze Colossus that straddles the harbor, fighting foes by dropping burning oil from the huge cauldron it holds and firing streams of molten lead from the catapults in its headpiece.

DVD Special Features:

    * Commentary by film historian Christopher Frayling
    * Theatrical trailer
    * Subtitles: English & Français (feature film only)

[Price Check update: $8.29 w/free shipping at deepdiscount.com]


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: tucumcari bound on April 27, 2007, 03:18:37 PM
I can't wait to pick this up and Fistfull of Dynamite!


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Man with no dame on May 15, 2007, 03:09:15 PM
I have not made a lot of posts about Leone's films, yet. Wanted to read around the forum a little bit before I comment on the Big 6. Anyway, I would like to begin at the beginning of Leone's career. Noticed a lot of disinterest in Leone's pre-SWs. This, to me, is kind of inexcusable. Would you ignore all of Nicholas Roeg's pre-directorial work, simply because he was an assistant cameraman on little, forgettable films like Lawrence of Arabia? Would you write off film editor and lifelong collaborator Alma Hitchcock as just the great director Alfred's wife? The sword and sandal epics of post-war Italy were the first major financial successes of their film industry. Inumerable talent was borne from those films. Leone would probably not have gotten to do his films without the S&Ss. This is where it all started, folks. These are must-see and must-appreciate films, for these are the cornerstones of his great career. They are as important, especially to this forum, as Godzilla movies are to the emergence of Japanese cinema. These films, along with his producer-credited works in the 70's deserve a special and seperate discussion. If anyone would care to put it to a vote, I'm down with it. Now that I have that out of my system, I think I'll have a Guiness and a good cigar.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on May 15, 2007, 05:00:12 PM
agreed, I remember seeing a lot of the S&S films in theaters & TV in the late 50's early 60's


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Man with no dame on May 15, 2007, 05:19:20 PM
They rode on the back of Hollywood bible spectacles like 10 Commandments & Ben Hur, but some were equally as good. Colossus is usually regarded as one of the better ones, Pompeii too.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on May 15, 2007, 09:29:46 PM
Maybe we should make a definitive list of Essential Sword & Sandal Films:

So off the top of my head the ones I remember:

Ben Hur
Colossus Of Rhodes
Last Days of Pompei
Barabas
Spartagus
Hercules
The Robe
Cleopatra
Quo Vadis
Jason & The Argonauts
Clash of the Titans
The Maciste Flicks
The Ten Commadmants
Valley Of The Kings




Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Man with no dame on May 15, 2007, 10:22:47 PM
Maybe we should make a definitive list of Essential Sword & Sandal Films:


Spartagus
I'm hoping this is just a mis-spelling, and not some movie about a Roman gas station attendant, that I might have missed. ::)


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: mike siegel on May 16, 2007, 03:31:07 AM
I agree heavily with you about your earlier speech :)
As much as I like this GREAT website, it is a bit strange that
one has to persuade 'die-hard' Leone fans to watch his films.
If it was Ford, o.k... 150+, but ol' Serge only made 7!

I don't like the Peplum genre much, maybe I always have to
think of Paul Newman, stating after THE SILVER CHALICE: 'won't
do another one, 'don't have the legs for it..'

But they're essential. Corbucci, Tessari, they all made them.
They probably suffer a lot in english a lot I guess?

Most of them look cheap and dull.
But not his entry. It is good. And those who can't connect it with his later
work I can't support: It's almost like FOD. A guy comes to town and is devided
between to groups of fighting people. He changes his 'allies', get's caught
and tortured. What else does one need to make a connection?? Clintus?
Well, Rory was a western star, wasn't he?

Seeing Leone directing with his usual passion should one make
wish to see it:

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1612/7186524/16445514/252984240.jpg)(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1612/7186524/16445514/252984236.jpg)


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on May 16, 2007, 05:38:22 AM
Spatacus, Spatagus is Asparagus' brother


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Man with no dame on May 16, 2007, 06:24:39 AM
Now there's a scenario! What if Leone had carried over Calhoun to star in his next pic? This conversation wouldn't even be happening. Quantum physics. Didn't Asparagus rebel against Emperor Okra?


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: marmota-b on May 16, 2007, 02:07:52 PM
Seeing Leone directing with his usual passion should one make
wish to see it:

If I hadn't wanted to see it already before... yes, it should! :)


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Scarabaeus on June 17, 2007, 06:38:09 PM
Spatacus, Spatagus is Asparagus' brother

You guys crack me up! Nonetheless, it's spaRtacus.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Man with no dame on June 17, 2007, 06:57:36 PM
You guys crack me up! Nonetheless, it's spaRtacus.

Ah, Scarabaeus, we have enough comedians around here. Did you see or like this film? Enquiring mind wants to know.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Leonardo on June 18, 2007, 04:37:50 AM
Ah, Scarabaeus, we have enough comedians around here. Did you see or like this film? Enquiring mind wants to know.

Yes, I did watch this movie two or three times over the years and found it quite entertaining. And to answer Peacemaker's question, it was definetely Leone who directed it from A to Z.
Leone was second  director in The Last days of Pompeii (1959) and Sodom & Gomorrah (1962) both uncredited. And you all know the story about Sergio being the second unit director in Ben Hur, heavily involved in the chariot race (at least that's what he claimed).
You will notice Leone's touch here and there and he was also lucky to have a reasonable budget for COR.
This movie was also very important for Sergio, as he met his future wife Carla Ranalli who was choreographer in this movie.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Rojo Ramone on June 20, 2007, 08:30:29 PM
Have you guys seen the DVD cover?  It's in the "Camp Cult Classics" collection~should be interesting.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: boardwalk_angel on June 20, 2007, 10:30:58 PM

Leone was second  director in The Last days of Pompeii (1959)

Yes, he was...the general consensus, even among Leone scholars, is that Leone directed most of the movie...Mario Bonnard got sick the first day of shooting.

I enjoyed Colossus of Rhodes...it starts off very much like a spaghetti western...ex-soldiers returning from the war...gang of cutthroats riding around...etc.

(http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/101366.1020.A.jpg)




Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on June 21, 2007, 05:28:53 AM
nice poster


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: mike siegel on June 21, 2007, 05:48:58 AM
yeah...

How about the German double panel:
(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1612/7186524/16445514/261042763.jpg)


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Leonegeek on June 21, 2007, 10:52:32 AM
Thanks so much for the tip! Man, this month is a Leone-lover's dream.

I saw 'Rhodes' on the big screen at a Leone retrospective in Queens, N.Y.
back in '99. Enjoyable, but no real signature style imho.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Arizona Colt on June 22, 2007, 02:51:40 PM
It's already for sale here...

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/colossus-rhodes-sergio-leone-p-12108.html


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on June 22, 2007, 03:52:20 PM
DeepDiscount has told me they've shipped my disc already, I'm hoping it shows up this weekend. I'm gonna play it with the Frayling commentary from the get-go!


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on June 26, 2007, 08:38:19 PM
(http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5342/rhodes1vt4.png)
"Isn't anyone with the courage to go up against that killer, eh?"


(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7833/rhodes2rs2.png)
"Unk-Unk-Unk . . . there's no name on this grave!"


(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/9278/rhodes4te2.png)
"Sure hope there's a bank in this town."


(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1263/rhodes5tv0.png)


(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4346/rhodes6au2.png)
"Man, does that BURN when I do that! (Wow, those people look like ants)."


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on June 26, 2007, 09:21:40 PM
 O0


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on June 26, 2007, 09:44:36 PM
Hitchcock homage:

(http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4746/rhodes12ox3.png)


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: cigar joe on June 26, 2007, 10:28:34 PM
you can definitely see some of his later camera angles in this film. O0


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on June 26, 2007, 11:45:32 PM
Not only the angles, but the entire mise-en-scene. To wit:

(http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7341/rhodes13ew3.png)

The dead horse is a nice touch. Really sells the idea of massacre.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on June 27, 2007, 08:37:10 AM
DVDSavant's (http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s2318epic.html) take:
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The Colossus of Rhodes jumps ahead about five years, beyond Hercules and Ben-Hur when Rome's Cinecittà was the center of European production. Big money went into fancy pictures like The Last Days of Pompeii and The Last Days of Sodom and Gomorrah, drawing money and stars from all over Europe and across the Atlantic. Dozens of much cheaper productions would soon clog the market, but The Colossus of Rhodes was an expensive proposition all the way. It's a hot ticket now because it's the first directing credit for Sergio Leone, who had made a name as an assistant director on many Hollywood shows filmed in Italy, from Quo Vadis? to The Nun's Story. The Colossus of Rhodes is more of a high-budget sword-and-sandal tale but it benefits from clean direction and some clever action scenes below, inside and clinging to the gigantic statue of the title.

As Dario, an Athenian on vacation in Rhodes, American star Rory Calhoun wears an incongruous smile through most of the show. In the first half he stumbles repeatedly into key meetings and events in a three-way struggle for power. It's all generic stuff. A fat pig of a king doesn't realize that his prime minister (Conrado San Martin) is smuggling in Phoenician warriors for a coup d'etat, while the lowly Rhodian freedom fighters hope that Dario will throw in with their lot. The architect of the giant colossus (Félix Fernández) regrets that his technological marvel will be put to evil purposes, even though he's rigged it to drop boiling oil on passing boats. A tireme carrying some freedom fighters parks itself under the statue, to demonstrate the statue's effectiveness.

The movie is a handsomely directed but rather slack series of secret meetings, double-crosses and narrow escapes. Lea Massari (L'Avventura) isn't much as a duplicitous lover, while Argentinian Mabel Karr steps in as a replacement love interest. Ángel Aranda (of Planet of the Vampires) is a jolly freedom fighter who likes to throw a knife. Dario sneaks around an underground labyrinth, witnesses some nasty Rhodian tortures and interrupts some grisly arena death games. In the film's best scene, he fights a duel on the arms of the towering statue, after crawling out a trap door in the giant bronze's ear.

The fitfully exciting The Colossus of Rhodes has a big cast of extras and some okay fighting scenes, and the mechanical interior of the statue is a novel setting. It's too bad that the script is content to settle for peplum clichés for most everything else.

The disc of The Colossus of Rhodes presents the SuperTotalScope production in its proper widescreen format. At 128 minutes, it's about a reel short of the Italian version (said to be available as an import disc), which may have a couple of extended torture scenes. The film seems long enough as it is. Angelo Francesco Lavagnino's score is somewhat subdued except for an opening series of sharp notes on the main theme. The track is in English with English and French subs; a trailer is included as well.

Sir Christopher Frayling provides a terrific commentary that places The Colossus of Rhodes in context with the later westerns of Sergio Leone , finding parallel themes and action even though this show is nowhere near as tightly directed. Frayling also promotes Leone's notion that the film is a parody of Alfred Hitchcock's movies, particularly North by NorthWest and Saboteur with its similarly hollow Statue of Liberty. The author and scholar misses few details, although fans of Ray Harryhausen will immediately recognize the rebel camp as placed in the middle of the weird rock formations featured in The Valley of Gwangi. Best of all, Frayling's interest in finding merit in the film contrasts strongly with commentaries from Peter Bogdanovich and the special effects experts on The Giant Behemoth. Although Frayling clicks off the sword and sandal clichés one after another -- pointy bearded villain, evil lady with an opulent boudoir, rag-tag freedom fighters -- he bears an affection and respect for non-elitist genres that the other commentators lack. As has been proven many times before, there's plenty of art to be found in popular genres, along with lessons that could benefit many more prestigious pictures.


Title: The Big Sword-Down
Post by: dave jenkins on June 27, 2007, 12:31:13 PM
The Big Sword-Down

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8905/rhodes16vp3.png)
In the final sword-down, Somebody is obscured as Frank strikes.

(http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3140/rhodes17jq5.png)
Jill watches apprehensively.

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3268/rhodes18rf1.png)
Frank backs away. Has he won?

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/3469/rhodes19zp7.png)
Frank turns, revealing a mortal wound.

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4697/rhodes20su0.png)
Somebody steps into view: he’s okay!

(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9593/rhodes21cy7.png)
The happy couple re-united.

(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/1209/rhodes22nd3.png)
It’s tough having to bite the dust without a harmonica to play….


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: PowerRR on September 26, 2007, 09:28:29 PM
I now own it + have watched it. For you guys, I'd say it's definitely worth a purchase. For non-Leone fans ...forget about it.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Novecento on April 15, 2009, 06:39:55 AM
BTW, I assume we're getting the 127 minute version, not the Italain one that's 139.

There is a really nice uncut German box-set (http://www.amazon.de/Koloss-von-Rhodos-Rory-Calhoun/dp/B000I0S7NY/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1239797685&sr=1-8) but unfortunately Italian and German audio with no English subs. However, if you really want to see stronger evidence of Leone's forthcoming style, then it's definitely worth watching if you can. Apart from the end sequence which is heavily cut in the English-language release, most of the cuts are simply removals of different camera angles and longer shots.


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on April 15, 2009, 09:14:37 AM
Thanks, I followed the link, but amazon.de lists the running time as 128. Would PAL speedup account for 11 minutes?


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Novecento on April 15, 2009, 09:59:24 AM
Yes, they have the wrong running time listed. Here's the specs from the actual publishers where it is listed as 137mins:

http://www.e-m-s.de/dvd.php?name=116131


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: dave jenkins on April 15, 2009, 12:31:32 PM
Thanks. Guess I'll have to order a copy . . .


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: Novecento on April 22, 2010, 12:58:35 PM
I've just noticed this French release (http://www.amazon.fr/colosse-rhodes-Rory-Calhoun/dp/B002CXG7O6/ref=sr_1_39?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1271960267&sr=8-39) from last year.

The run-time is listed is 135 which appears to be 2mins shy of the excellent German release. Sadly, as with the German release, there is no English audio  :(


Title: Re: Colossus of Rhodes R1 DVD 6/26/07
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 06, 2011, 09:57:15 AM
Now there's a scenario! What if Leone had carried over Calhoun to star in his next pic? This conversation wouldn't even be happening. Quantum physics. Didn't Asparagus rebel against Emperor Okra?

Frayling says on the dvd commentary that Calhoun was offered the part of the Man With No Name, which he declined, to his later regret