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Title: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Franks Harmonica on April 02, 2007, 11:05:22 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0901487/


Director: Kim Ji-woon (A Quiet Family, A Tale Of Two Sisters, A Bittersweet Life, 3 Extremes)
Cast: Lee Byung-hun (JSA, A Bittersweet Life, Bungeejumping Of Their Own), Jung Woo-sung (Daisy, Musa), and last but not the least Song Kang-ho (too many to mention... awesome guy).

Budget: $10 million

Plot: The movie set in Manchuria during the early 1900s, building off a string of Korean genre films from the 1970s that combined the aesthetics of the Western with outlaw movements aligned against Japanese colonial forces. Jung will play the good guy, a bounty hunter; while Lee will take the role of the bad guy, a hired gun- and swordsman; and Song will play the weird guy, a train robber who rides a motorcycle instead of a horse.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 02, 2007, 11:11:01 PM
The movie set in Manchuria during the early 1900s, building off a string of Korean genre films from the 1970s that combined the aesthetics of the Western with outlaw movements aligned against Japanese colonial forces. Jung will play the good guy, a bounty hunter; while Lee will take the role of the bad guy, a hired gun- and swordsman; and Song will play the weird guy, a train robber who rides a motorcycle instead of a horse.

Works for me.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: titoli on July 02, 2008, 10:39:21 PM
Maybe for me too. ;D

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=imgdpz_0m-8&feature=related

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLTSDbovums&feature=related


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: titoli on July 02, 2008, 10:41:38 PM
Amazing comparing the trailer above with this:

http://kr.youtube.com/watch?v=U4fD0f5fDlk&feature=related


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on July 02, 2008, 10:44:35 PM
How can this be a Western? Shouldn't it be called an Eastern?


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Banjo on July 03, 2008, 07:07:58 AM
It looks promising but i don't think either the special effects or crap poppy music lend themselves well to a western (type) movie. :(


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: titoli on July 03, 2008, 11:43:44 PM
The vamp heard in the background is taken from Santa Esmeralda's disco version of Don'l Let Me Be Misunderstood:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP27A1RYba0&feature=related

But Banjo, I'd never have thought to hear these words from you. :o Are you becoming conservative in tastes?


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Ben Tyreen on July 04, 2008, 10:40:33 AM
  A friend of mine who doesn't really care for westerns pointed this trailer out to me, and I thought it looked pretty good.  The problem is actually seeing it in a theater if it even gets released in Chicago.  Most likely one a majority of people will have to look for on DVD. >:(


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Jill on July 05, 2008, 04:08:33 AM
LOL.... this trailer... *facedesk*

I'm waiting for it...


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Banjo on July 05, 2008, 04:20:14 PM
The vamp heard in the background is taken from Santa Esmeralda's disco version of Don'l Let Me Be Misunderstood:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tP27A1RYba0&feature=related

But Banjo, I'd never have thought to hear these words from you. :o Are you becoming conservative in tastes?

Well I don't think even Elvis would sound good to disco.

Anyway even the classic Animals original would be out of place in a western.

How can you expect any atmosphere from a western with such an accompaniment?   


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: titoli on July 05, 2008, 10:29:42 PM
Well I don't think even Elvis would sound good to disco.

Anyway even the classic Animals original would be out of place in a western.

How can you expect any atmosphere from a western with such an accompaniment?   

I thought you'd always go for the outrageous. Not like FC, but almost.  8) And I don't think that music is out of place in THIS movie. At least, in the trailer it seems to be working.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 05, 2008, 11:10:47 PM
How can you expect any atmosphere from a western with such an accompaniment?   

I wouldn't fret. There is a good chance that song won't be in the final product.
It seems like they stuck it in the trailer to appease the fans of Kill Bill vol.1 (a style/attitude this trailer is trying to capture) which uses the song during its climax.

This looks like fun. O0


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on April 03, 2010, 09:02:32 PM
I watched that movie today. It has several computer-generated scenes but in general they are pretty good. The musical score is uneventful IMO. I have noticed a few similarities with GBU, including "the good" pulling "the ugly" tied-up behind his horse, and the famous trio's duel. The characters' personalities also have some similarities (to a point) with the ones in GBU, but "the bad" is too sadistic for my liking.

6.5/10


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: noodles_leone on April 04, 2010, 01:32:06 AM
Most actors are more or less terrible, and someone should have hired a professional writer to take care of the dialogues. Apart from that, this is a refreshing movie.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Dust Devil on April 04, 2010, 03:48:44 AM
The most peculiar little coincidence; I was just preparing myself to watch it one of these days.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: cigar joe on October 03, 2010, 03:36:12 PM
OK, finally got around to seeing this and since I wasn't expecting much i was pleasantly surprised.


Director: Ji-woon Kim, Writers: Ji-woon Kim (screenplay), Min-suk Kim (screenplay). Starring Kang-ho Song as  Yoon Tae-goo / The Weird,   Byung-hun Lee  as  Park Chang-yi / The Bad, and Woo-sung Jung  as Park Do-won / The Good.  Now its basically a treasure hunt in the frontier of Manchuria in the late 1930's, and has this funky Western/Asian fusion going on that believe it or not it really works. It definitely homages "The Good The Bad & The Ugly", and " Duck You Sucker" but it also in a strange way channels parts of "Mac Kenna's Gold" and "The Hallelujah Trail" and other films. 

Here is a new link to the trailer which for some reason is no longer available in the earlier posts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQu_QH2yYsI

The basic plot revolves around a map to an undisclosed treasure somewhere along the Mongolia- Manchurian Frontier with Russia. The existence of the map is supposed to be a secret but its not and various parties converge upon its whereabouts. 

The opening scene is vast tract of desert with a hairline railroad running through it and upon the tracks a steam locomotive pulling a line of passenger coaches (could be referencing "Bad Day At Black Rock's" opening sequence.

The standout performance in this is Kang-ho Song's, as Yoon Tae-goo / The Weird. He's funny, tricky, resourceful, and well weird, and we first see him wearing a goofy "mad bomber" trapper style hat posing as a vendor walking through the coaches filled with various ethnic Asians, selling his wares. We follow him as he makes his way to a private car at the end of the train and his goal, with two automatic pistols in each hand he shoots his way into the car. While all this is taking place  Park Chang-yi / "The Bad" (Byung-hun Lee) is standing down line in the middle of the tracks waiting to stop the train expressly to obtain the treasure map.

In the private car "the Weird" is  confronted by two hookers two Japanese officers and a diplomat. Having the drop on everyone "The Weird" instructs one of the hookers to retrieve and open suitcases and display their contents to him. She open one that contains jewels and cash, and he instructs her to open the next one that is located near one of the officers, when she does, we see that it contains a gun, and the officer is poised to grab it.  At that moment "The Bad" has lit a pile of railroad ties on fire and the panicked engineer of the train spots it and applies the air brakes, the sudden lurch of the braking, the officer grabbing the revolver and inertia taking taking effect causes pandemonium in the private car resulting in a shootout. The hooker laying next to "The Weird", both officers and the diplomat are dead. The Weird with his head near the dead hookers crotch sees up her skirt, reaches nonchalantly with his free hand, a retrieves a roll of bills from either the top pf her stockings or panties. He then scoops up the jewels and cash, checks out the suitcase that contained the revolver and finds the leather case that holds the treasure map which he grabs also but has no idea what it is, all this is going on while "The Bad' is shooting up the train and systematically searching the passenger cars for the map. Observing all this is Park Do-won / "The Good" (Woo-sung Jung) who is a bounty hunter after "The Weird" and a local tribe of what could be Mongols who also know about the map. "The Weird" hearing the gunshots of "The Bad's" gang exits the train and gets picked up by his partner in crime a relative on a motorcycle with a side car and leaves the scene pursued by "The Good' .

This is a surprisingly entertaining film that doesn't take itself too seriously, rent it on Netflix.  O0



Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: titoli on December 07, 2010, 11:31:29 AM
Though some scenes are clearly an hommage to GBU, the movie is akin to those Indiana-Jones generated movies based on 30's pulp fiction. The characters are not-existant, which is good for me as it is all based on action from start to finish. Of course it has the advantage of new sets, new backgrounds, new characters and it gets 8\10 as it entertained me without a pause.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Groggy on December 07, 2010, 12:26:40 PM
Though some scenes are clearly an hommage to GBU, the movie is akin to those Indiana-Jones generated movies based on 30's pulp fiction. The characters are not-existant, which is good for me as it is all based on action from start to finish. Of course it has the advantage of new sets, new backgrounds, new characters and it gets 8\10 as it entertained me without a pause.

That sounds about right. It's lots of fun regardless of what you want to call it. I thought the huge four-way chase/gun-battle towards the end was absolutely astonishing.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 07, 2010, 01:12:14 PM
I never can find the time to watch it. :'(


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: titoli on December 08, 2010, 01:35:18 AM
That sounds about right. It's lots of fun regardless of what you want to call it. I thought the huge four-way chase/gun-battle towards the end was absolutely astonishing.

My main complaint is about the actor playing the "good one": he's too young and nerdy-looking. Good (but we see lots of them nowadays) the Johnny Depp clone playing the "bad one" and very good the Tuco-like character. Another minus is the score, good only for the vamp from don't let me be misunderstood disco version as noted above.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 09, 2010, 01:55:52 AM
My main complaint is about the actor playing the "good one": he's too young and nerdy-looking.

"Feminine" is how I'd describe him. Same with "The Bad".

I was really looking forward to this but I was disappointed.
The opening train robbery is great but did we need a big action set piece like this every moment of the film?
There is such a thing as too much HOO HA!.

5/10




Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: cigar joe on December 09, 2010, 04:05:17 AM
"Feminine" is how I'd describe him. Same with "The Bad".

I was really looking forward to this but I was disappointed.
The opening train robbery is great but did we need a big action set piece like this every moment of the film?
There is such a thing as too much HOO HA!.

5/10




Apparently there was more flashbacks in the original release that concerned I think a spy/love story relationship of a woman with the Good, (you can see them in the extras) they probably broke up the action a bit, but I agree it was a bit over loaded when it didn't have to be, but I was nevertheless pleasantly surprised as I wasn't expecting much.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Groggy on December 09, 2010, 09:12:57 AM
Nah, the non-stop action was what I liked most about it.


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 09, 2010, 01:29:46 PM
Nah, the non-stop action was what I liked most about it.

Well, at any rate it's better than Miike's Django "remake".


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: emmo26 on February 10, 2012, 02:45:44 PM
Anyone seen this movie? It's meant to be inspired  by GBU


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good,_the_Bad,_the_Weird


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: cigar joe on February 10, 2012, 03:57:07 PM
yes its reviewed in Other Films


Title: Re: Joheunnom nabbeunnom isanghannom aka The Good, the Bad, the Weird (2008)
Post by: Dust Devil on March 01, 2012, 03:57:40 PM
Here.