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Title: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: cigar joe on July 08, 2007, 08:41:44 AM
Dir. Bud Boetticher, starring Randolph Scott, Claude Akins, Nancy Gates, Richard Rust, Skip Homieir.

Another good example of a low budget minimal set, great Western. Pretty much all the action takes place in the Alabama Hills of Lone Pine, California with the Sierra's as the backdrop. One lonely stage station "Comanche Station" the main set. Your main expence would have been for horse & mule wranglers

The story revolves around the Comanche captive ,Mrs. Lowe (Nancy Gates), and the efforts to get her back to her husband. Scott is pitted against Akins and his two partners. Your basic Cowboy & Indian sub genre of the Western Genre, with all around good performances. Akins is good as the villian, probably his best part along with "A Man Called Sledge" in anything else I've seen him do.

Score is your basic 50's orchestral stuff.

This was written by Burt Kennedy and was much better than Boetticher's "Decision at Sundown".


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: dave jenkins on July 08, 2007, 09:29:47 AM
Is this the one with the twist ending? The husband wasn't man enough to go after his wife himself because . . . ? I saw this once on VHS and was really disappointed. Too TV-like.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: titoli on June 23, 2009, 09:21:32 AM
Poor plot unredeemed by any memorable scene. I had decided to give this 6\10 only because of the Scott and Akins performances and some good dialogue (like when Scott tells a "story" to Akins and his pard)) but the final twist made me veer toward a 5\10.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: T.H. on June 27, 2009, 03:42:53 PM
I liked the twist, even if it was batshit crazy and sort of hilarious. My only complaint with this movie, which hurts it a considerable amount, was there needed to be more conflict on their journey. The main baddie (name escapes me) should have attempted to kill Scott a couple of times. The kid should have found ways to stop him. Indians should have had a larger role as well.

I liked this more than DaS. A solid 7 of 10.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: The Peacemaker on June 28, 2009, 02:02:51 AM
I actually thought this was the weakest of the Ranown westerns. Very tedious pace with lines of dialogue that sound similar or identical to the previous films.


SPOILERS AHEAD

However the last ten minutes were pretty cool. Like the death of Claude Aikens' character in the rock outcropping and the nice little twist at the end.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: Dust Devil on January 01, 2011, 01:39:56 AM
Unmemorable movie (''Cody the storyteller'' segment aside; one was really handy with the gun, but the other one was not killed by the Comanches) from start to finish, often tedious too, mediocre. Had some nice colorful shots, and Randy Scott. The ending's interesting, but nothing more than that. It's hard to give it any credit given the uneventfulness of the whole piece, some talking ain't enough.


5/10


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 02, 2011, 12:24:44 AM
I seemed to like it a lot more than anybody on here.
It's the weakest of Boetticher's "range Westerns" but it's still very good.

8/10


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: T.H. on May 21, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
I liked the twist, even if it was batshit crazy and sort of hilarious. My only complaint with this movie, which hurts it a considerable amount, was there needed to be more conflict on their journey. The main baddie (name escapes me) should have attempted to kill Scott a couple of times. The kid should have found ways to stop him. Indians should have had a larger role as well.

I liked this more than DaS. A solid 7 of 10.

I rate this higher now because of the scope of the movie. It's a lesser Ride Lonesome but it's still captivating.

8-8.510


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 29, 2011, 08:02:30 AM
5.5/10

This is the worst of the 5 Ranown Cycle films I've seen (the other 4 are: Ride Lonesome, The Tall T, 7 Men from Now, and Decision at Sundown).

The Cody the Storyteller dialogue wasn't terribly enjoyable for me cuz it is directly ripped off a similar scene in 7 Men from Now (Lee Marvin was the storyteller there). That scene in 7 Men from Now was awesome; as I recall, in the Special Features, one of the dudes interviewed said that Boetticher considered it his finest scene directing and Burt Kennedy considered it his finest piece of writing. So when I am watching Comanche Station and see a direct ripoff of their own movie 4 years earlier, I just rolled my eyes  ::)





Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 20, 2013, 10:27:31 PM
just saw Comanche Station for the second time, and I am happy to say that I now retract my previous rating; I liked this one a lot this time around.

Monday was Randolph Scott day on TCM's Summer Under the Stars, and I saw Comanche Station , as well as two other of the Boetticher/Scott Westerns: The Tall T and and Ride Lonesome. (To avoid the usual semantic debate over what constitutes a "Ranown Cycle" film, I'm just gonna call them "Boetticher/Scott" film, which covers all seven of 'em. Anyway...)

All three of 'em – Comanche Station, The Tall T, and Ride Lonesome – are good movies, I'd rate 'em all somewheres between 7.5-8/10. Sometimes when watching one of them  I felt like woah, that ended kinda abruptly!, cuz the films are so short, but it's really amazing what Boetticher did with so little – just a few solitary men and one women (and the occasional pack of Injuns) riding alone in the wilderness, in 65 or 80 minutes or whatever. Nice cinematography; the Sierra Mountains have been used in a million and one Westerns, but they sure look pretty here.

One problem I have noticed generally with Cinemascope (and perhaps it's with all anamorphic processes): Whenever the camera pans on a  wide shot, like a sweeping shot of the Sierras, they look like they are curved. As the camera is panning, the mountains or the landscape or whatever - especially the part in the middle of the screen - looks like it is curved. Anyone notice that?

The supporting casts have all been good as well. And I've also noticed that Boetticher likes to recycle several themes. Firstly, the famous line "some things a man can't ride around" was said in both The Tall T (by Scott) and Ride Lonesome (by one of the supporting cast). And the concept of the main bad guy with the two dumb uneducated younger guys, both in The Tall T and Comanche Station.

I only wish TCM had shown all seven of the Boetticher/Scott films; now I've got a hankering to see the rest of 'em (Before seeing these three on TCM now, I'd previously seen each of 'em once). As for the other four films, I previously liked Seven Men from Now and Westbound, but I did not like Buchanan Rides Alone and Decision at Sundown.

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Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 28, 2016, 08:42:56 AM
German blu coming: https://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01FTAVPDG/expmedgmb-21


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 28, 2016, 11:20:52 AM
none of the Boetticher/Scott Westerns have been released on region A BRD, right?

(Notice I said "Boetticher/Scott Westerns," not "Ranown Westerns," so we can avoid a debate over what technically constitutes "Ranown Western."  ;) )


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 28, 2016, 12:31:11 PM
none of the Boetticher/Scott Westerns have been released on region A BRD, right?
Not as far as I know.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: stanton on June 28, 2016, 01:47:34 PM
none of the Boetticher/Scott Westerns have been released on region A BRD, right?

(Notice I said "Boetticher/Scott Westerns," not "Ranown Westerns," so we can avoid a debate over what technically constitutes "Ranown Western."  ;) )

Yeah, but we like that debate, and I hope we are not interested to own the one which is doubtless not part of the cycle.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 28, 2016, 02:04:11 PM
Yeah, but we like that debate, and I hope we are not interested to own the one which is doubtless not part of the cycle.
Are you saying that 7 Men From Now is not part of the cycle?


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: stanton on June 28, 2016, 02:06:36 PM
Are you saying that 7 Men From Now is not part of the cycle?

No, but you have 6 more tries for free, then you have lost.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: Spikeopath on February 20, 2017, 07:10:42 PM
I seemed to like it a lot more than anybody on here.
It's the weakest of Boetticher's "range Westerns" but it's still very good.

8/10

You aint on your own mate, I think it's very good indeed.


If I loved her, it wouldn't matter.

Comanche Station is produced and directed by Budd Boetticher and stars Randolph Scott, Claude Akins, Nancy Gates, Skip Homeier & Richard Rust. It's written by Burt Kennedy with music and cinematography from Mischa Bakaleinikoff & Charles Lawton Jr. respectively.

Jefferson Cody has for many years been looking for his wife who was kidnapped by Indians. Taking time out from his futile search, he trades with the Comanches to get a woman, Nancy Gates, released. During the journey back to reunite Nancy with her husband, they run into an outlaw and his two protégés. Stating that the Comanches are on their trail and speaking about a reward being offered for Nancy, relations start to disintegrate by the hour.

This was to be the last of seven collaborations between director Budd Boetticher and Western legend Randolph Scott, and it's a most fitting sign off from the duo. Between them they managed to make Westerns with an almost haunting cloud hanging over them, themes of loneliness, complex characters and scenarios segue throughout their output. Here in this fine picture we find Scott's Cody in a complete state of loneliness, but outside of the pain the character clearly carries with him, Cody is a classic Western hero, courage and integrity are fortitude's by which he lives his life. As this tale unfolds it's evident that Boetticher isn't prepared to offer up conventional Western standards, this, like many of Boetticher's other Westerns, is not a standard Oater, a good versus evil fable, it's a cunningly intelligent picture that's both sad in texture, and also in heart. The film is boosted by Charles Lawton Jr's camera work as he captures some stunning outdoor scenery, the rugged rocks and dusky land creates some striking compositions around the troubled characters.

See this if you are one of those people who thinks Westerns were merely an excuse for Cowboys and Indians high jinx. Boetticher and Scott, leading lights in the sub genre that featured the Ranown Westerns. 8/10


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: mike siegel on February 22, 2017, 02:37:55 AM
Fine film, Boetticher is always good, sometimes very good. Less than two years later Peckinpah sort of ended this period of US Western with the fantastic RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY (photographed by Lucien Ballard, who had worked few times with Boetticher in the 50s).

I filmed Budd Boetticher 20 years ago at the Munich Film Fest and included the half-hour film on the German Blu-ray for COMANCHESTATION, quite entertaining :).


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: cigar joe on February 22, 2017, 04:05:19 AM
Fine film, Boetticher is always good, sometimes very good. Less than two years later Peckinpah sort of ended this period of US Western with the fantastic RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY (photographed by Lucien Ballard, who had worked few times with Boetticher in the 50s).

I filmed Budd Boetticher 20 years ago at the Munich Film Fest and included the half-hour film on the German Blu-ray for COMANCHESTATION, quite entertaining :).

nice  O0


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: mike siegel on February 22, 2017, 04:47:40 AM
Yes, 'loved the man (his name is German by the way).
We got along quite well because I didn't ask him the usual question but about more lesser-known facts, like TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA ....


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 22, 2017, 02:08:34 PM
Yes, 'loved the man (his name is German by the way).
We got along quite well because I didn't ask him the usual question but about more lesser-known facts, like TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA ....

According to Frayling, Boetticher hated "Two Mules" - they turned his Western into a Spaghetti ;D


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: stanton on February 22, 2017, 03:10:11 PM
According to Frayling, Boetticher hated "Two Mules" - they turned his Western into a Spaghetti ;D

Which is in parts true. The film would have been very different if made by Budd.


Title: Re: Comanche Station (1960)
Post by: cigar joe on February 22, 2017, 03:13:49 PM
Yes, 'loved the man (his name is German by the way).
We got along quite well because I didn't ask him the usual question but about more lesser-known facts, like TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA ....

Has anybody ever seen the original script for TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA, before the changes?