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Title: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 09, 2007, 10:09:27 AM
Not a remake of the Brando film, apparently: http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117969818.html?categoryid=10&cs=1
Who says the Western is dead?


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Silenzio on August 09, 2007, 10:23:01 AM
Nobody in this morgue, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 13, 2007, 06:04:16 PM
I can't wait for this. Some great talent involved in this project. I seen Viggo Mortensen on Letterman last night and he was sporting a great western mustache preparing for his role in this. Ed Harris as you all know is directing as well as starring. Renée Zellweger also is starring.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 13, 2007, 06:39:09 PM
With this, Yuma, the Jesse James film, and There Will Be Blood, it seems the Western is really back. The operative word being "seems."


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 13, 2007, 06:51:38 PM
With this, Yuma, the Jesse James film, and There Will Be Blood, it seems the Western is really back. The operative word being "seems."

I hope so jenkins! If only they all can be successful!


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on June 26, 2008, 12:34:51 AM

UPDATED NEWS:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/06/appaloosa_acomi.php

It hasn't been reported anywhere yet, but I'm told Warner Bros. will be releasing Ed Harris's Appaloosa, a New Line reject starring Viggo Mortensen, Renee Zellweger, Harris, Jeremy Irons and Lance Henriksen, on Wednesday, 9.17.08 in New York, L.A. and Toronto, followed by a 500-screen break on Friday, 9.19.

Another guy has written in and said "It's still a New Line movie, New Line execs are still doing the development/cutting, and New Line came up with the release plan. It's a Warner Brothers movie like Sex and the City is a Warner Brothers movie -- in that WB passed on it and New Line made it."

The western is about two gunmen, a marshall named Virgil Cole (Harris) and his deputy and friend Everett Hitch (Mortensen) trying to free a town from its thrall to a thuggish rancher (Irons...I think). Zellweger plays a young widow who presumably falls for Harris or Mortenson or whatever. Appaloosa is Harris' second film as a director, the first having been Pollock.

Check out the Appaloosa IMDB boards and you'll see it's gotten some good reviews from test screenings. Looks to me like an almost sure bet for the '08 Toronto Film Festival. Mortensen has been a steady attender of that gathering in recent years. Now we have an outdoorsy adventure-ish Viggo Mortensen movie (a period western) set for release just over two months before the 11.26 opening of The Road, an adaptation of the Cormac McCarthy novel in which he also stars.
Copyright Hollywood-elswhere, by Jeffrey Wells, June 24,2008


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 05, 2008, 06:45:04 PM
Here's the TRAILER, OFFICIAL WEBSITE and POSTER everyone! It looks very promising...

TRAILER:

http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=1152&item=0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw1XFu-mFVk


Official website:

http://welcometoappaloosa.com


Read more about it on IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800308/

(http://welcometoappaloosa.warnerbros.com/appaloosa_rated1sheet.jpg)


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 06, 2008, 04:56:54 PM
Looks nice! It sure would be nice to see more (good) westerns in the future.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Whalestoe on August 06, 2008, 04:59:29 PM
Viggo and Ed in a movie together again? My ass will be in the seat.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 06, 2008, 05:04:25 PM
Viggo and Ed in a movie together again? My ass will be in the seat.

Because of Ed, right?


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Whalestoe on August 06, 2008, 05:07:42 PM
Because of Ed, right?

I like 'em both. Ed > Viggo though, if you want to get personal. Jeez. ;D


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 06, 2008, 05:17:36 PM
Viggo and Ed in a movie together again? My ass will be in the seat.

You got that right. Ed Harris and Viggo Mortensen are d*mn good actors. I love the rest of the cast as well.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 06, 2008, 05:19:51 PM
Wowza! Great trailer. And that cast! Ed & Viggo, Jeremy Irons, AND Lance Henriksen? I'm definitely giving this one the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for those links, TB. O0


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 06, 2008, 05:34:01 PM
Huh, didn't see Henriksen is gonna be in it too. Good news indeed!


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 06, 2008, 05:34:58 PM
I like 'em both. Ed > Viggo though, if you want to get personal. Jeez. ;D

But you like Ed a bit more, be honest. ;)


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Whalestoe on August 06, 2008, 05:42:36 PM
But you like Ed a bit more, be honest. ;)

Well... okaaaay:

Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Viggo


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 06, 2008, 05:46:46 PM
Wowza! Great trailer. And that cast! Ed & Viggo, Jeremy Irons, AND Lance Henriksen? I'm definitely giving this one the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for those links, TB. O0

No problem jenkins! I was excited when the cast was announced for the film and now that the trailer has surfaced, my expectations are even higher! This should be good.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 06, 2008, 06:03:39 PM
Ed Harris is so badass!
He was born to be in every western made after the 80's regardless of quality!


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 06, 2008, 06:40:48 PM
"Don't forget yer shooooooze!" ;D


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Panache on August 06, 2008, 08:54:42 PM
UPDATED NEWS:

http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/2008/06/appaloosa_acomi.php

It hasn't been reported anywhere yet, but I'm told Warner Bros. will be releasing Ed Harris's Appaloosa, a New Line reject starring Viggo Mortensen, Renee Zellweger, Harris, Jeremy Irons and Lance Henriksen, on Wednesday, 9.17.08 in New York, L.A. and Toronto, followed by a 500-screen break on Friday, 9.19.

Another guy has written in and said "It's still a New Line movie, New Line execs are still doing the development/cutting, and New Line came up with the release plan. It's a Warner Brothers movie like Sex and the City is a Warner Brothers movie -- in that WB passed on it and New Line made it."

The western is about two gunmen, a marshall named Virgil Cole (Harris) and his deputy and friend Everett Hitch (Mortensen) trying to free a town from its thrall to a thuggish rancher (Irons...I think). Zellweger plays a young widow who presumably falls for Harris or Mortenson or whatever. Appaloosa is Harris' second film as a director, the first having been Pollock.

Check out the Appaloosa IMDB boards and you'll see it's gotten some good reviews from test screenings. Looks to me like an almost sure bet for the '08 Toronto Film Festival. Mortensen has been a steady attender of that gathering in recent years. Now we have an outdoorsy adventure-ish Viggo Mortensen movie (a period western) set for release just over two months before the 11.26 opening of The Road, an adaptation of the Cormac McCarthy novel in which he also stars.
Copyright Hollywood-elswhere, by Jeffrey Wells, June 24,2008

nice newsflash, havnt seen th original so thsll be new to me, an Harris, Irons an Henrickson will def giv it some class

now all thy(hwood  need to do is make tht 1 breakthru big hit western, tht everone trys ta copy- an westernsll be back in th saddle

course yer gonna hafta teach 90% of Hwood actors how ta ride a horse......... ;D


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Groggy on August 07, 2008, 06:27:39 AM
With this, Yuma, the Jesse James film, and There Will Be Blood, it seems the Western is really back. The operative word being "seems."

Substitute TWBB with No Country For Old Men.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: moviesceleton on August 07, 2008, 08:33:53 AM
My ass will be in the seat.
You stole my words. Looks fucking promising O0


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 07, 2008, 12:16:40 PM
You stole my words. Looks fucking promising O0

You're d*mn right.  O0


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 10, 2008, 05:50:25 PM
Looks pretty damn promising...




(http://welcometoappaloosa.warnerbros.com/appaloosa_rated1sheet.jpg)




The Trailer:

http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=1152&item=0




I'm already excited about seeing it!


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Whalestoe on August 10, 2008, 05:56:48 PM
http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=6182.0


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 10, 2008, 05:57:42 PM

Wrong thread and already been posted Peacemaker. O0


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 09, 2008, 03:28:51 PM

New article/interview with Ed Harris!


THE QUIET MAN
Ed Harris talks about directing Viggo Mortensen in his new Western,
"Appaloosa," and how men communicate without spilling their guts

By Stephanie Zacharek

Sept. 8, 2008 | TORONTO -- I lost my battle to make Ed Harris laugh. But he made me laugh, which is maybe more important anyway. The notoriously serious-minded actor and director -- whose new movie, Appaloosa, played the Toronto Film Festival this past weekend and will open on September 17th -- was closing in on the end of a long day of press interviews when my turn came to speak with him. I said I knew it was hard work to talk to journalists all day, to which he replied that he's happy to do what he can to support the movie. "And," he added, "you seem like a nice person." "Just wait," I said. He didn't even crack a smile.

No matter. There's been a mini-resurgence in Western films recently, but it's still not a genre many filmmakers are eager to take on, perhaps partly because Westerns aren't an easy sell with contemporary audiences. But Harris seems to have so enjoyed the process of making Appaloosa -- it's the second film he's directed, the first being the 2000 Pollock -- that maybe, just maybe, his wry, low-key enthusiasm will prove infectious. Once you meet Harris, and spend a bit of time listening to his soft-spoken, easy drawl, you can see that Appaloosa -- which was based on the novel by Robert Parker -- is exactly the kind of Western he would make.

Harris and Viggo Mortensen costar as Virgil Cole and Everett Hitch, guns for hire and longtime pals who show up in a New Mexico town, circa 1880, that's being terrorized by a nasty local rancher, Randall Bragg (Jeremy Irons). Virgil and Everett are hired by the town muckety-mucks to deal with Bragg, which they seem perfectly well equipped to do: They're a solid, efficient team, friends who are as comfortable together as an old married couple. (In conversation, when Virgil can't come up with the word he wants, Everett steps in to supply it, like a personal thesaurus.) Then a widowed schoolmarm type -- in actuality, she's an organist -- named Ally French (Renée Zellweger) pops into town and proceeds to charm the pants, quite literally, off Virgil, and their courtship threatens to drive a wedge between the two men.



Appaloosa is a low-key picture, a loose ramble dabbed here and there with wry humor, which seems to suit Harris' style. Here, he talks about the pleasures of working in a genre that has somewhat gone out of fashion, and explains that it all began when he picked up a book that had "a kinda cool cover."

Your movie strikes me as a little bit more Howard Hawks than John Ford, because Ford was into the stoic, principled guys, and Hawks had an affinity for the misfits, the oddballs. Does that make sense to you?

I've seen a lot of those things, and I looked at a lot of things. I looked at My Darling Clementine again, and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, and Red River and a bunch of other things. But I don't really know how to answer you. I know I wanted to keep it simple visually, and I wanted to have as few cuts as possible. Just really keep things wide, where I could, and still tell this story about these people, in this landscape, in this town. In terms of the actual theory or philosophy, the intellectual penetration of the American Western and the mythology of it, my brain doesn't work that way, you know what I'm saying?

Well, you're also adapting a novel.

Yeah, which I'm being true to. Which is really the guiding thing. I'm just trying to tell this story as well as I can.

Let's talk a little about the landscape, because that's so important in a Western. You shot the picture on location in New Mexico. Tell me about how you worked with your D.P., Dean Semler, and what kind of relationship you guys had.

We had a really good relationship, and we spent a lot of time trucking out to these locations, particularly the ones that weren't in the town. While we were scouting locations, we were looking for some pretty specific geographic necessities. You had to find these places, and you're standing up there with Dean and talking about how to shoot it: "Well, the sun's going to be coming up this way." You have to draw it out.

It's fun. Plus you're out in this beautiful country. And it gets kind of hysterical because you're out in this magnificent land and you're looking for something in particular. And you might be seeing something really beautiful, and you're saying, "That's no good. That won't work." And you don't really see it for what it is, because it's not what you're looking for. [Laughs.]

There's been a little bit of a resurgence in Westerns over the past few years, with The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford and the remake of 3:10 to Yuma. But it's not a genre that a lot of filmmakers are currently working in.

I love Westerns, and I would have been in a lot more of them had they been making more of them. I like the genre very much. But it was really this: I bought this book Appaloosa because it had a kinda cool cover, and I knew Parker was pretty good, an easy read, but also a decent, good writer. I said, "That doesn't look like a Spenser mystery. Let's check it out."

So I started reading it, and read a couple scenes between these two guys, my character and Viggo's, and it just tickled me. I couldn't believe it -- it just seemed really, like, fun. And I was going, "God, this would be really fun to do."

My understanding is that you gave the book to Viggo Mortensen to read. What made you think he'd respond to it?

I just had a feeling. I had only worked with Viggo for a couple weeks on A History of Violence. But I really liked him, and we got along pretty well. He's a very private guy, he's very generous of spirit, but he's not going to become somebody's best friend overnight. Which I totally respect, and he'd probably respect that about me. But I just had a feeling that he might get it. And I thought we could pull it off; I thought that with his nature and mine, the two of us and the way he works, we could create this history between these guys and have it feel appropriate. And he did respond to it, which I'm really glad of. I'm not sure what I would have done if he hadn't.

And I didn't want to impose. I know what it's like for someone to give you something and go, "Read this!" And you're like, "What do you mean, 'Read it?' It's, like, 350 pages, and it's small print, and it's going to take me a week, and I don't have the time, and -- why should I read it?"

It depends who gives it to you! But anyway, he was kind enough to read it and he liked it.

I would think two actors who are private people could really bring something to these characters.

That's what I mean. I don't need to talk to Viggo about my feelings intimately. He's not interested in that, and I don't expect him to do that with me. But we can also be very honest with each other. And if there's something that's bugging us, we can talk about it. I don't really see Viggo unless I'm working with him. It's not like we have a social life together. Plus he's never home anyway; the guy is always so damn busy doing stuff. [Laughs.] He's incredibly busy.

Anyway, yes, that sense of being a private person is perfect for these guys. As kind of intimate as they are -- they spend a lot of time together, and they talk, but don't share their deepest feelings -- it's not about that. It's about relying on each other and feeling comfortable with each other.

Do you think Westerns offer any specific opportunities for contemporary actors? I know Jeremy Irons had never been in a Western.

He was really excited about being in a Western. At least for these guys from my generation, you grew up watching them. You admired the heroes of the western films: John Wayne, Henry Fonda, Gary Cooper, Jimmy Stewart -- and then you get into the Peckinpah years. And there's Clint.

Anyway, all these guys who worked on it were really happy to do it. Like Lance [Henriksen], who plays Ring. I hadn't seen Lance in a while, but he was the only guy I wanted to play Ring. I knew him from The Right Stuff -- we kind of kept in touch. I love Lance; he's really cool. He's got that great voice, you know.

Yeah, every day out there, you're in this western town, you've got your horse, you've got your six-shooter, your hat, your marshal badge, and you're walking down Main Street. If you're not having a good time, there's something wrong. It was fun, it really was.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: The Firecracker on September 10, 2008, 12:34:50 PM
Short review from a fan...

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=160642;article=168130;title=Spaghetti%20Western%20Web%20Board

"Too talky" he says.
I respect fan opinions more than I do a critics.
That said, I'm going to watch it anyway.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 10, 2008, 12:44:25 PM
Short review from a fan...

http://disc.yourwebapps.com/discussion.cgi?disc=160642;article=168130;title=Spaghetti%20Western%20Web%20Board

"Too talky" he says.
I respect fan opinions more than I do a critics.
That said, I'm going to watch it anyway.

Well, quite a few critic reviews have surfaced and they're all great. I never listen to someone who says a film is "too talky" because most of the time, I end up loving the film.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 19, 2008, 08:14:07 AM
STARTS TODAY!


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: moviesceleton on September 19, 2008, 08:21:59 AM
STARTS TODAY!
No Finnish release date yet :( I'd expect it to be here by the end of the year if it's coming at all. I really want to see another western at a cinema!


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 19, 2008, 01:38:09 PM
No Finnish release date yet :( I'd expect it to be here by the end of the year if it's coming at all. I really want to see another western at a cinema!

It's playing here! I'll be seeing it this weeked.  O0


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 20, 2008, 02:59:33 AM

Appaloosa: MY REVIEW:

I had the pleasure of seeing the anticipated release of "Appaloosa" starring Ed Harris, Viggo Mortenson, Jeremy Irons, and Renne Zellwigger. Let me first start off by saying I enjoyed the film very much. It's not an instant classic like I was hoping for but it is good none the less.

Let me begin with the positives. The film has a very strong script. The novel which the film is based on, contains great writing and it shows in the adapted screenplay here. There are some classic one-liners sprinkled throughout the film. I seen the film with a packed house and I couldn't hear some of the dialogue at times because people were laughing so hard. The character of Virgil Cole, played by Ed Harris, had some of the best lines. A lot of you talk about loving one-liner's and this film has quite a few classics.

Also, the acting in the film is superb. Ed Harris and Viggo Mortenson prove yet again why they're perfect working with one another. They share some great on screen chemistry. Jeremy Irons turns in a solid performance as usual but I don't think his character was developed as much as he should have been. When the film is over with, you're left wanting more out of this man.

Now to some negatives. The pacing of the film at times seemed a bit off. Before tonight, I read some reviews about Ed Harris direction being a bit amateurish. Well, that just about sums it up. The direction isn't terrible but it's missing something. At times it seems lazy and not well thought out on Mr. Harris's part. I would have liked to see someone with a bit more experience behind the camera take on this project and just let Ed Harris take on his acting duties.

There were also some melo-dramatic moments that didn't quite fit the film. These moments had a lot to do with the Renne Zellwinger character sub-plot. I think a lot of people who are not much of a fan of hers will be disappointed by her presence yet again. Now, I don't think her acting was all that bad but I think at times she brought down the story. I was confused about her actions and what she was striving for most of the time.

The musical score isn't all that memorable particularly but it does enough to move the story along.

All and all, it's a pretty darn good film a bit some flaws. It has quite a few little surprises through out with some good action. I personally think it had much more potential. I kind of shake my head because I think Ed Harris missed an opportunity of greatness. He had all the ingredients in tact. I will be picking up this film when it's released on DVD. It's definitely worth owning.

7/10


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 21, 2008, 04:46:59 PM
Thanks, TB. I spent my movie-viewing time on other films (and a Yankee game) this weekend, so I won't get a chance to see this until probably next weekend. But I'm definitely gonna see it . . .


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 21, 2008, 11:13:21 PM
Thanks, TB. I spent my movie-viewing time on other films (and a Yankee game) this weekend, so I won't get a chance to see this until probably next weekend. But I'm definitely gonna see it . . .

You're welcome jenkins.  :)


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on October 03, 2008, 10:34:25 AM
Saw this and was disappointed. Contains a lot of interesting ideas that never quite come off. I kinda liked the way they handled the love interest; if you've gotta have such in your movie, you might as well go with something like this. Renee Z does a great turn as a kind of demented Shirley MacLaine (wait, MacLaine is already demented, I'm being redundant). So glad they skipped the tart-with-a-heart formula; this was a pretty fresh approach, and comes with some plausible psychology behind it.

The boys are pretty cool, look good, and are plenty bad ass, but I wish they hadn't been portrayed as dimwits. Just because they talk little and move slow doesn't mean they ARE slow. They should be able to think very quickly, if they've survived by their guns for so long. But they don't even question why Lance Henriksen and his brother suddenly arrive in town. These guys are top grade hired guns and Ed and Viggo don't even pause to wonder why they're there or who hired them? I had it figured out immediately, but the boys couldn't catch on until it was rubbed in their faces.

The final showdown doesn't make much sense either. So Viggo surrenders his badge so he can operate as a private citizen. But Ed doesn't surrender his badge, he's still on duty when Viggo does his final deed. Remember, the man he kills is not a wanted man, he's got a pardon and he has the rights of any other citizen. What Viggo does is murder the guy. So, why doesn't Ed arrest him? Out of friendship's sake he's just gonna give the guy a pass? That just means someone else is gonna have to go after him. Wouldn't Ed want to be the guy who brings his friend in, to make sure he gets just treatment? But maybe they're saving that for the sequel (yeah, right).

I don't know if anyone else is planning on seeing this, but even if you do, don't stay after the first set of credits at the end. Over the second set of credits you have to listen to Ed Harris sing one of his original songs, and it's a painful thing to endure. You've been warned.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on October 12, 2008, 11:40:50 AM
Thanks for the film, Ed; shame about the song . . .

Quote
Ed Harris on 'Appaloosa': 'You just go for it'

    * Story Highlights
    * Ed Harris produced, directed, co-wrote "Appaloosa"; he even sings song
    * Tale adapted from a Robert B. Parker novel set in Old West
    * Taking on so many tasks not something Harris does often, but "you dive in"

TORONTO, Ontario (AP) -- Ed Harris took Old West self-sufficiency to heart with his latest film.

First, Harris secured the rights to Robert B. Parker's Western novel "Appaloosa" and pitched it to buddy Viggo Mortensen, who agreed to co-star with him in the saga of two upright pals aiming to clean up a lawless town.

Then Harris co-wrote the screenplay, produced and directed the film and put in 10-hour days to help edit it.

Harris even followed the singing-cowboy trail, co-writing and crooning a rootsy song for the end credits.

Appropriately, Harris was on a horseback-riding trip with his family in Ireland in 2005 when he read Parker's book. Harris said he had read some of Parker's "Spenser" mysteries and picked up "Appaloosa" because it "had a cool cover and looked like a neat book.

"Then I just started reading this thing and was totally delighted with the relationship between these two guys," Harris said in an interview at the Toronto International Film Festival, where "Appaloosa" premiered.

"I read the first couple scenes, literally, probably read 35 pages of the book or less and called my agent and said, `Find out if this is available,' because it just tickled me."

The movie rights were open, and soon after, Harris passed the book on to Mortensen while they were promoting their film "A History of Violence" at the Toronto festival that same year. After Mortensen signed on, Harris got to work on the screenplay with his friend Robert Knott.

Harris stars as the close-lipped Virgil Cole, who arrives in Appaloosa as the new marshal along with longtime trail partner Everett Hitch (Mortensen). Bold, supremely capable and unshakably loyal, the two implement an iron-fisted rule over the town, taking on a gang led by a murderous rancher (Jeremy Irons).

Complicating matters is Virgil's romance with a widow (Renee Zellweger), a woman prone to indiscretion and indelicate behavior.

"Appaloosa," which has played two weekends in narrow release and expanded to more theaters Friday, marks Harris' return to directing after his acclaimed filmmaking debut "Pollock," which earned him the third of his four acting Academy Award nominations and won the supporting actress Oscar for Marcia Gay Harden.

While "Pollock" was a labor of love shot on a tiny budget, "Appaloosa" was a much bigger production loaded with action and period design, a test of Harris' filmmaking chops.

"It makes you trust yourself. It makes you be much more decisive than I am normally in life, because you can't afford to hem and haw," Harris said. "You've got to make decisions, and also, it's great in terms of your relationships with people and delegating responsibility. ...

"The doing of it, it's kind of thrilling. It's a moment-to-moment proposition. I don't really live like that on a normal day. I'm not that consumed. It's fun. I like it. I couldn't do it 365 days of the year, but basically, you dive in, you know some day you're going to be done with it, and you just go for it."

Harris began his career in theater and television before earning early big-screen acclaim as astronaut John Glenn in "The Right Stuff." He has taken on occasional lead roles but mostly has built a film career in standout supporting gigs in such movies as "Apollo 13," "The Truman Show," "The Hours" and "Gone Baby Gone."

It was tough lining up the money for "Appaloosa," because Westerns generally have been out of favor in Hollywood in recent decades. Westerns do not sell well overseas, where financial backers hope to recoup much of their investment, Harris said.

He ultimately managed to raise a modest budget of about $20 million for the production, which was largely shot in New Mexico.

Harris had to fight to keep in sequences aboard an old steam train that are pivotal to the action, along with a shootout that was filmed in Texas.

"I said, 'If you start taking away these elements, the production value of this thing is not going to be what it's supposed to be. It's not going to have the visual impact it needs. It's part of the story,' " Harris said. "Anyway, we finally got it set up and going. It wasn't a luxurious shoot by any means, but we did have the means to do it."

Harris approaches filmmaking with workmanlike facility, his co-stars said.

"He's generally pretty efficient," Mortensen said. "He had to be because of the budget and wanting to put so much of it on the screen in terms of the production values."

"He's not a man of many words, you know. He shows up and says what he's hoping for, sets it up and puts it to film," Zellweger said. "Everything was just so comfortable and easy. Maybe that says more than any anecdote I might come up with. He's confident and he's pretty clear about he wants, and it just kind of falls into place."

Harris did some musicals in his college acting days and has played guitar and piano, the latter for his 2006 turn as the composer in "Copying Beethoven."

But the song he sings over the closing credits, "You'll Never Leave My Heart," came about as a bit of a fluke, Harris writing the lyrics and Jeff Beal, who did the movie's musical score, coming up with the tune.

"I was up late one night just fooling around, you know. I showed it to him, he goes, 'Let me try to write some music for it,' " Harris said. "Anyway, it was fun. We had a good time recording it."

Harris' song is an earthy, angry romantic reproach sounding like something a lonely cowboy could have concocted around a campfire back in Old West times.

Preceding it over the end credits is a modern country-rock tune from Tom Petty and his band Mudcrutch, "Scare Easy." Harris initially resisted the Petty song, finding the tone too contemporary for his 19th-century tale.

"The first time I listened to it, I went, 'No, this is not right,' " Harris said. "But then I kept listening to it and we tried it over the credits, and it was like, 'Yeah, man, the film's over. ... Let's rock.' "


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 15, 2008, 09:31:04 AM
The movie was about 20 minutes too long. It should have closed at the logical closing point

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Just after the gunfight the boys have with Henrikson (Ring) where they lay on the street dying

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Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on October 15, 2008, 02:05:52 PM
That would have worked for me.

You could have also finished with a coda showing the Renee Z character taking up with her next sponsor.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on October 15, 2008, 03:58:11 PM

I enjoyed the film even though it was flawed in some areas. I just wish Jeremy Irons character was developed a lot more. He could have been a great villain.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Cusser on November 15, 2008, 08:01:52 PM
We saw this tonight, I thought it was definitely worthwhile, pretty good, significantly better than 3:10 to Yuma where the gus had the drop on the bad guys from that hotel room but never fired, or didn't think to meet the train up-route.  What also was cool that the trailer for the film Australia absolutely contained the Ecstacy of Gold music.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: dave jenkins on December 03, 2008, 12:23:00 PM
A heads-up via the digitalbits.com:

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In release news today, Warner Home Video has just announced the DVD and Blu-ray release of Appaloosa on 1/13/09. Extras will include commentary by director Ed Harris and screenwriter/producer Robert Knott, deleted scenes and 4 featurettes (Bringing the Characters of Appaloosa to Life, Historic Accuracy of Appaloosa, The Town of Appaloosa and Dean Semler's Return to the Western).


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: cigar joe on February 07, 2009, 09:02:06 PM
Well I finally got a chance to see this today thanks to netflix. It was entertaining but it did have some amateurish problems as many above have noted. We didn't get any Iconic characters though,  and you just get the feeling that if a John Wayne or Jimmy Sewart made an appearance they would just blow everyone else away with just their presence, but its worth a look.  I basically saw it back to back with an encore viewing of China 9 Liberty 37, and concerning the Rene Zellweger's turn as Alison French I'll use a line from Warren Oates' character Matthew Sebanek in that film that fits her pretty good.

"If they didn't have cunts there'd be a bounty on them".

The landscapes were good, the townset though was a bit too deserted looking, not much in the way of wagon traffic or rutted streets and it had a "new dime" sort of look to it rather than a lived in appearance.  The train used in the film looked like a Disneyland tourist train it seemed a bit off. The engine & the passanger cars were pretty dinky looking, rather than a real road engine and pullman cars, like what we are used to in Golden Age Westerns. It was probably the same engine & cars used in 3:10 to Yuma, I made that same comment in the thread on that film.

Soundtrack was OK.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: uncknown on February 14, 2009, 04:13:32 PM
my three cents.

Good script and acting!
the film was too long by at least 10 minutes.
dialog very hard to hear
direction lacked style
a worthy entry in the western genre!!!


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: cigar joe on February 14, 2009, 04:43:52 PM
Somebody mentioned on IMDB that Hitch should have just shot Ally with the 8 guage, lol, just think how it would have possibly reached cult status with that turn of events.


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Dust Devil on June 26, 2009, 02:56:14 AM
Not really a huge disappointment as everybody was saying but definitely should have been better. This is, IMHO, mostly due to Harris' uninspired direction, and a couple of holes in the script. The last 10-20 minutes I didn't really get what was it all about, as we (on this board) seem to agree the movie should have already ended.

So, watchable and better than 3:10 to Yuma, but only rudimentary good.


6.7 - 7 out of 10


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: titoli on January 17, 2011, 03:37:21 PM
It was TV tonight, I missed the initial scene, I guess. Too talky? Probably, but the problem is that dialogues are flat, they lack zest. Of course you can't have Leone dialogues so easily, but you should try. See the confrontations: nothing to object about them visually, but the dialogues lack spirit. So the scenes are ineffective. So it is good, but not memorable. I liked Mortensen. 7\10


Title: Re: Appaloosa (2008)
Post by: Spikeopath on February 09, 2017, 04:00:50 PM
We can't have our law officers beatin' people half to death for no reason.

Appaloosa is based on the 2005 novel of the same name written by Robert B. Parker. It's directed by Ed Harris, who also co-writes the story with Robert Knott. Harris also stars alongside Viggo Mortensen, Renée Zellweger, Jeremy Irons & Lance Henriksen. Music is by Jeff Beal and Dean Semler provides cinematography on location in Albuquerque, Austin and Santa Fe.

Appaloosa is in the grip of bully boy rancher Randall Bragg (Irons), who finally oversteps the mark when the latest Marshall and his deputies are killed in cold blood. The townsfolk decide enough is enough and hire no nonsense travelling lawmen Virgil Cole (Harris) and his sidekick Everett Hitch (Mortensen) to protect and serve the town. Ruling with a rod of iron, Cole & Hitch start to bring order to Appaloosa, but the arrival in town of pretty Allie French (Zellweger) causes quite a stir between the two men. Bad timing too since the guys are trying to get Bragg to his rightful execution.

In the modern era the Western has been the hardest genre for film makers to tackle. You can probably count on one hand the number of great or agreeable ones that have surfaced post Costner and Eastwood's efforts of 1990 and 1992 respectively. Enter Ed Harris, who undaunted by the long odds of getting a Western to be successful; and suffering worrying overtures from his backers at New Line Cinema, got Appaloosa made. Well made as it happens.

Since the story itself is etched like the Wyatt Earp legend, there's really no fresh perspective on offer here. In fact, anyone familiar with Edward Dmytryk's excellent Warlock from 1959 will feel some narrative déjà vu. But Appaloosa does have strong performances and lush landscapes to see it successfully home. Slotting in a good helping of action, romance and humour also goes some way to making Harris' movie a worthy modern day Oater. True, the cliche's are many, but Harris wasn't after revisionism, he wanted (and got) old fashioned Oater values. A film that follows those old beloved B movie Western conventions, but one that still retains a topical criminal thread.

The best reward in the film comes from spending time with Harris & Mortensen. Their characters are nicely drawn and not over cooked by the script. Cole & Hitch are devoted to each other, lots of straight love and respect exists between the two men. Their bond is believably brought to life by Harris & Mortensen, who formed a friendship when making A History Of Violence for David Cronenberg in 2005. Zellweger and Irons too are not without high merit value. She (stepping in when Diane Lane walked over delays), is pleasing and captivates in what is the critical glue role. While he is dandy dastardly supreme, a well spoken villain of much intelligence and crafty as a cat.

Appaloosa is a subtle film, both in story and as a technical production. Beal's score is unobtrusive, while Semler's photography manages to deliver that old fashioned feel that Harris was after (the low lighting for the interiors is particularly on the money) . Harris' direction is smooth and unhurried in pace, with the odd inspired bit thrown in for good measure (check out the up-tilt camera work during a train on a bridge sequence). While the production design can't be faulted. All that and you got the likes of Henriksen and Timothy Spall in the support cast too. A lovely film that is as tight as the friendship at its core. 7.5/10