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Title: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 21, 2007, 09:42:16 PM
What an excellent italian western!
Cooper (Van Heflin) gets lucky and strikes gold in a mine. His unnamed partner attempts to double cross him and a gunfight ensues. The mine caves in and only cooper survives.
He travels back to the nearest town (the desert sun almost kills him) and telegrapghs "the only man he can trust", who comes in the form of Manolo his estranged son played by George Hilton, to help him travel back to the mine and dig the gold out again.
When a mysterious blonde man (played with malicious glee by Klaus Kinski) arrives in town looking for Manolo, Cooper decides it was unwise to trust his estranged son in the first place so he hires an old friend/nemesis (Gilbert Roland) to help protect him during the travel.

There is very little gunplay except for a very well thought out action set piece during the very beginning of the four's journey to the mine and then later at the very end.

The focus is on the characters and it plays out very well

This can certainly be in somebodies top 30.


Did anybody else get the feeling that Kinski and Hilton were lovers in the movie?


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: Silenzio on August 21, 2007, 10:33:48 PM
Dude, sounds great.  I need to check this out ASAFP.  If you say it could make someone's top 30 it must be damn good.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 21, 2007, 10:42:36 PM
If you say it could make someone's top 30 it must be damn good.

We pretty much agree on everything, except MASSACRE TIME (which is on my top 30), so I'm sure you'll agree with me on "Ruthless Four".


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: Banjo on August 22, 2007, 06:26:39 AM
Only watched this once but i remember it to be quite excellent. O0


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: titoli on August 23, 2007, 10:20:53 PM
I think I saw this at the theatre, Though I can't be sure. One of these days I'm gonna make a check at the library and see on newspapers the programs of the theatre near my home in the '60's and reconstruct my SW viewer career.
Anyway, on the strenght of the recommendation of the two illustrious contributors above I decided to (re)watch it and wasn't let down. Yes this is good. Mostly for the dialogues. These are among the best I've heard in a long time: I presume the responsability is all Di Leo's. The movie is very well shot. Which is very strange. The actors are good, but Heflin (not my favourite actor) and Kinski are fenomenal. The score is divided: sometime it fits, sometime looks like it was written for a giallo.
Some logical grip: why the 4 were attacked the first time on the way to the mine?

Anyway 9\10


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 23, 2007, 11:02:35 PM

Some logical grip: why the 4 were attacked the first time on the way to the mine?




Some reference was made that the fellows who attacked the four were hired by the merchant who sold Heflin the equipment for the trip.
My guess would be that the merchant wanted to kill them and get the equipment back to re-sell.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on March 14, 2009, 06:12:10 PM
I have seen many SWs in my life, but I don't recall seeing this one before and I decided to give it a try. What an great movie!! It is probably a low-budget one, but the acting, (particularly Van Hefling and Gilbert Roland) is excellent. The story deviates from the mainstream SWs, but keep's one's attention to the screen from the first few minutes until the very end.


8/10


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: Banjo on March 19, 2009, 05:20:36 PM
Would dearly love to see a semi-decent widescreen print of this.Seen it since on the uk movies4men channel and i'd give it 7 out of 10.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 12, 2011, 03:21:24 PM
Out on March 25th in Germany. Claims to be remastered: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B004HHHO5G/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: titoli on March 12, 2011, 04:16:41 PM
Out on March 25th in Germany. Claims to be remastered: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B004HHHO5G/ref=ord_cart_shr?ie=UTF8&m=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF

But no english language or subs.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: Dust Devil on March 13, 2011, 12:33:54 AM
Did anybody else get the feeling that Kinski and Hilton were lovers in the movie?

lol, no, but I have yet to see it, but then again, I know one that's likely to detect what you're talking about (if he ever/even watches it). >:D


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: stanton on March 13, 2011, 04:15:08 AM
As far as I know it will have English audio. It was first announced without the Italian audio, but will have this now too.

I keep you informed.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 13, 2011, 10:38:48 AM
You're talking about the German DVD? By all means, let us know. I'm buying it if it's English friendly.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: stanton on March 13, 2011, 02:27:13 PM
I'm sure it will be English friendly. All Koch SWs are so far.

I have pre-ordered it, so ask again in 2 weeks.

I don't think it is a great SW. It is different from the usual SW stories, with some similarities to The Treasure of the Sierra Madre storywise.

But like many of those SWs which try to tell a more dramatic story the characters are a bit too stereotyped to make the drama really work. And the SW directing is not always appropriate for the story, but it has its moments, and some people really like it.

Definitely worth a try. A 6/10 from me


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 14, 2011, 12:04:38 AM
I'm buying it if it's English friendly.

Why the sudden interest?
Kinski?
Heflin?


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 14, 2011, 11:13:08 AM
Well, yeah.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 18, 2011, 06:34:52 PM
Well, yeah.

Just seems odd that out of Kinski's 15+ westerns that you probably would have showed interest in some of the others.
Sure, most of the them are bad and his performances tend to amount to a mere cameo but there are some gems.

And God Said To Cain being a good one.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 18, 2011, 06:53:44 PM
I'm particularly interested to see Van Heflin and Kinski in a movie together. How many times did that happen?


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 18, 2011, 07:24:19 PM
I'm particularly interested to see Van Heflin and Kinski in a movie together. How many times did that happen?

Not 15 times.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: stanton on March 25, 2011, 01:53:35 PM
Just as announced the Koch DVD contains Engl audio (next to German and Italian) and Engl. subs for the not dubbed parts.

The DVD comes in a beautifully designed Digi in a slipcase. Very similar to the Mercenary DVD.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 25, 2011, 03:29:14 PM
Sounds good. Are there English subs you can play over the Italian or German dubs?


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: stanton on March 25, 2011, 05:59:58 PM
No, the DVD has only Engl subs for the scenes without Engl audio.
And also again no Engl subs for the bonus material.

Only German subs for the complete film, and as usual for Koch these are no dub subs but a translation of the Italian version.
That's one of the great Koch features. So I know what was spoken in the original, which is in the case of SWs too often very different from the German version.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: emmo26 on September 27, 2015, 11:29:02 AM
This is on tonight on cable....

Watching this for the first time before I get to see QT's Hateful Eight.


Title: Re: The Ruthless Four aka Ognuno per sť (1968)
Post by: titoli on March 26, 2017, 10:49:58 AM
Director Capitani died yesterday at 89.