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Title: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 24, 2007, 05:44:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpMqpX3z0A

If you're a fan of sci-fi, then get ready for your jaw to literally drop. It looks like The Strause brothers will do this sequel justice. By the looks of the trailer, it looks like it's in the tradition of ALIENS (1986) which we all know is a sci-fi masterpiece.

The first time we seen these two iconic creatures on the big screen together a couple years ago in AVP, it turned out to be a big disapointment. I was only looking forward to the sequel because I'm a big fan of both franchises and the fact that I wanted it to be better than that first film which was horrid.

Anyway, this looks like it has some promise so enjoy the trailer!!!


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: KevinJCBJK on August 24, 2007, 06:53:02 PM
Jesus! They didn't bother editing out he gore. This looks so much better than the last film which was HUGE disapointment. I am ready to say that this is the one and only AVP film. Thanks for posting!


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 24, 2007, 07:14:46 PM
Jesus! They didn't bother editing out he gore. This looks so much better than the last film which was HUGE disapointment. I am ready to say that this is the one and only AVP film. Thanks for posting!

No problem Kevin! I'll be the first to admit that AVP was horrible. This looks like it has all the Alien and Predator R-Rated violence, gore, suspense, and horror. I've been reading lately some great things about this. The trailer looks pretty awesome!


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: KevinJCBJK on August 24, 2007, 08:43:04 PM
No problem Kevin! I'll be the first to admit that AVP was horrible. This looks like it has all the Alien and Predator R-Rated violence, gore, suspense, and horror. I've been reading lately some great things about this. The trailer looks pretty awesome!

Just about everything we need in an Alien and Predator film  8)

I've seen heads exploding, blood splattering, and eyes gouging out. This is going to be sweet.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Mw/NNrules on August 24, 2007, 08:43:16 PM
The first two Aliens movies are awesome. They're classics in both sci fi and horror. Predator was cool. I didn't think it had as much plot and intrigue as the first two Aliens films. I haven't seen Predator 2, but I will one day. I heard it was good, but not amazing. Either way, both series had suffered a decline in popularity. Aliens 3 (what I saw) was pretty awful. Aliens 4 (what I saw) was a little better, but still bad. Predator 3, if ever planned, just never happenned. Both series lived only in comics, action figures, and the memories of film buffs who sadly looked upon what happenned. On a side note, call me a geek, but I own two Alien action figures. I don't play with them all that much, but they look awesome. One is a Gorrilla Alien, the others a bull. I wanted to get a Snake Alien, but they don't sell them anymore. >:(. Guess I'll have to check Ebay. Anyways, back to my dramatic story, he seperate comic book series slowly became intertwined. Then came Alien vs. Predator. The comics and video games were successes! There was a movie to come out! Then one horrible thing happenned: Paul W.S. Anderson. He was the director. The movie was a moderate success, but it ended up being horrible (or so I hear). Now, this one, may be cool. 8). The End.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 24, 2007, 10:26:52 PM
The first two Aliens movies are awesome. They're classics in both sci fi and horror. Predator was cool. I didn't think it had as much plot and intrigue as the first two Aliens films. I haven't seen Predator 2, but I will one day. I heard it was good, but not amazing. Either way, both series had suffered a decline in popularity. Aliens 3 (what I saw) was pretty awful. Aliens 4 (what I saw) was a little better, but still bad. Predator 3, if ever planned, just never happenned. Both series lived only in comics, action figures, and the memories of film buffs who sadly looked upon what happenned. On a side note, call me a geek, but I own two Alien action figures. I don't play with them all that much, but they look awesome. One is a Gorrilla Alien, the others a bull. I wanted to get a Snake Alien, but they don't sell them anymore. >:(. Guess I'll have to check Ebay. Anyways, back to my dramatic story, he seperate comic book series slowly became intertwined. Then came Alien vs. Predator. The comics and video games were successes! There was a movie to come out! Then one horrible thing happenned: Paul W.S. Anderson. He was the director. The movie was a moderate success, but it ended up being horrible (or so I hear). Now, this one, may be cool. 8). The End.

I totally disagree with you about Alien 3 Mw/NNrules. Have you seen the Assembly Extended Cut? It's a flat out MASTERPICE. It fills in all the plot holes that were missing from the theatrical version. This version is the closest to David Fincher's vision.

A lot of people put down ALIEN3 for the simple fact that it followed ALIENS as wasn't as action heavy as that film. It went back to more of the horror and suspence of the original Alien film and it succeeded. I personally think Alien 3 holds the best ending and score of the series. Alien, Aliens, and Alien3 are all MASTERPIECES. They should have stopped there. Alien Resurrection, although a solid sci-fi film all in itself, it doesn't hold a candle to the previous three. They should have stopped and made it a trilogy. It would have been one of the best ever.

I dunno how you can put down the original Predator. It's a full blown sci-fi classic and it still holds up today to any sci-fi film being made. It's just a classic, period. Arnold has never been cooler and there hasn't been such a cool cast of characters assembled in years since. Predator 2 although not as good as the first, wasn't that bad. It adds more to the Predator character and the ending is pretty great.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: BeauButabi on August 24, 2007, 11:06:19 PM
I remember somewhat enjoying the first AvP in the theaters, but I keep hearing how the next one is gonna blow that one away. Really looking forward to it.

Since you guys are talking about the other entries in each series, I'll chime in with my $.02. I think the first Alien movie is the best horror film ever made. Absolutely perfect. Aliens I have mixed feelings about. James Cameron does great with action and plot, and I've enjoyed every one of his films greatly, but once his characters open their mouths I want to slap them, and Aliens was one of his biggest offenders in that vein (The Abyss being the worst, and The Terminator being the only flawless one). Alien 3 I really liked, though a problem is it has so many British dudes cursin' like sailors that it's hard to differentiate anyone from eachother. The assembly cut improves greatly on this, and it improves on other aspects that I didn't even realize were flaws when watching the regular cut all those years. And I just loved the tone of the film. Would've been a great trilogy if there hadn't been a part 4. Though A:R I admit is a guily pleasure for me. Just plain stupid fun. And it had Leland Orser playing a paranoid dude. Automatic thumbs up for that alone.

Predator is an 80's classic. It's to the action film that Alien was to horror. Pure. Pred 2 was your typical cash-in sequel, but it actually has some passable action, and I especially loved the last 30 minutes. But overall I don't think I've sat through the whole thing more than twice in my life, and don't plan to make the count any higher. Hell, I don't even own it on DVD.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 24, 2007, 11:44:44 PM
I remember somewhat enjoying the first AvP in the theaters, but I keep hearing how the next one is gonna blow that one away. Really looking forward to it.

Since you guys are talking about the other entries in each series, I'll chime in with my $.02. I think the first Alien movie is the best horror film ever made. Absolutely perfect. Aliens I have mixed feelings about. James Cameron does great with action and plot, and I've enjoyed every one of his films greatly, but once his characters open their mouths I want to slap them, and Aliens was one of his biggest offenders in that vein (The Abyss being the worst, and The Terminator being the only flawless one). Alien 3 I really liked, though a problem is it has so many British dudes cursin' like sailors that it's hard to differentiate anyone from eachother. The assembly cut improves greatly on this, and it improves on other aspects that I didn't even realize were flaws when watching the regular cut all those years. And I just loved the tone of the film. Would've been a great trilogy if there hadn't been a part 4. Though A:R I admit is a guily pleasure for me. Just plain stupid fun. And it had Leland Orser playing a paranoid dude. Automatic thumbs up for that alone.

Predator is an 80's classic. It's to the action film that Alien was to horror. Pure. Pred 2 was your typical cash-in sequel, but it actually has some passable action, and I especially loved the last 30 minutes. But overall I don't think I've sat through the whole thing more than twice in my life, and don't plan to make the count any higher. Hell, I don't even own it on DVD.

Great post BeauButabi. You seem to know quite a bit about the Alien and Predator series which I love. I've been a huge fan of both series since I was a kid. That's why I was pretty upset at what turned out to be AVP. It could have been great in my opinion. The setting was fantastic for the film. The problem was, the script was absolutely horrible. Some of the worst dialogue written ever for a film. The Predators were to bulky, the didn't sound like Predators, and their faces looked to rubbery and fake. I also hated what they did with the Queen. She was to fast when she moved. The Alien Queen in Aliens had a coolness about her. She was slick and moved fluently but not to fast. AVP also lacked what the most important thing was and that's suspense and horror. Not once did you feel scared at these creatures. Everything moved to fast. The alien life cycle was way to quick. It just played out like a cheap video game. I'm really looking forward to the improvements in this sequel.

I wanted to point out something about Alien Resurrection. Over the years the film has grown on me as well. I just love the cast that's assembled in this film. They're all pretty cool characters. I absolutely loved Ron Pearlman in the film. He was cast perfectly. I just wish the plot was better. I'm just not a big fan of the cloning story line. I think they should have went in another direction with this film, minus Sigourney Weaver's Ripley. She died at the end of the third and they should of kept it that way. The ending is what did it for me. I just hate that hybrid. What were they thinking? I still like the film. It's good pop corn fun but it's in no way on par with the first three.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: KevinJCBJK on August 24, 2007, 11:55:12 PM
I think Alien and Aliens were classics. Alien is probably one of the scariest films of all time, definetly the most terrifying of all sci-fi films.  I loved the tagline "In space, no one can hear you scream"

Aliens was much more adventurous than Ridley Scott's film, and James Cameron has done a great job with it, it had more action, more aliens (just when one was enough) and it was still scary.

Alien 3 I don't remember seeing, but I don't remember liking it. I heard the little girl and the other guy died, and that pissed off a lot of fans. I heard that many of them don't consider it canon. But if there is a better version out there I would watch it.

Alien Ressurection, never seen it, not sure if I want to.

Predator: Amazing film, I loved it when I was a young boy, it had guns, explosions, and gore. Plus Arnold was my hero back then.

Predator 2: I remember it being good, one part that stands out was at the end when Danny Glover kills the Predator and the rest arrived and he was all bloody and beaten up and said "Okay, who's next?"  ;D

AVP: Sucked. My dad and I went to see it and we had no idea it was PG-13. We learned our lesson that day.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 25, 2007, 12:02:51 AM
I think Alien and Aliens were classics. Alien is probably one of the scariest films of all time, definetly the most terrifying of all sci-fi films.  I loved the tagline "In space, no one can hear you scream"

Aliens was much more adventurous than Ridley Scott's film, and James Cameron has done a great job with it, it had more action, more aliens (just when one was enough) and it was still scary.

Alien 3 I don't remember seeing, but I don't remember liking it. I heard the little girl and the other guy died, and that pissed off a lot of fans. I heard that many of them don't consider it canon. But if there is a better version out there I would watch it.

Alien Ressurection, never seen it, not sure if I want to.

Predator: Amazing film, I loved it when I was a young boy, it had guns, explosions, and gore. Plus Arnold was my hero back then.

Predator 2: I remember it being good, one part that stands out was at the end when Danny Glover kills the Predator and the rest arrived and he was all bloody and beaten up and said "Okay, who's next?"  ;D

AVP: Sucked. My dad and I went to see it and we had no idea it was PG-13. We learned our lesson that day.

See the Assembly Cut of Alien 3 when you get the chance Kevin! It's a far better film than FOX's theatrical butchered version. I actually still liked the theatrical version. I still seen it's brilliance years ago but then when I seen the Assembly Cut, I was floored. The film is just amazing. I love the brilliant direction by Fincher. His style was perfect for the Alien World.

Predator is a classic. It's one of my favorite films of all time. It's one of the best sci-fi films you will ever see. I personally think the character of Dutch is Arnold's best role. He was just flat out cool as Dutch. One of the baddest characters ever to grace the silver screen. The whole cast was great for that matter. The late Kevin Peter Hall was absolutely magnificent as The Predator. His slick, athletic movments are something to remember. There will never be another Predator like Kevin. May he Rest in Peace!

Predator 2 was a worthy sequel in my opinion. Maybe to action heavy for my taste but it had it's brilliant sequences. I love how they added on to the Predator character a bit more. He was more ruthless than the previous film. Again, Kevin Peter Hall was absolutely amazing as the Predator. The ending of this film is highly memorable in the Predator ship. That alone makes this film a keeper.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: BeauButabi on August 25, 2007, 12:21:08 AM
I think people don't like Alien 3 mostly for the direction they were going with the series. If Alien was horror and Aliens action, then Alien 3 was drama. With the dark brooding tone, it only fit that everyone had to die. Newt and Hicks being killed off in the first minutes definately pissed people off, and apparently James Cameron the most. But i think it was very essential, just to make Ripley alone again. Ripley was traumatized by the events of the first film, finds out her only child died after being un-frozen in the second and is forced to face her demons and fight the aliens if she is to fit back into society. But she succeeds and creates new friends, just to wake up from cryo-sleep again to find herself alone once more and still has to fight her demons. The only way she can kill off the aliens once and for all is to sacrifice herself. In the end Ripley's saga is a great tragedy. I can totally understand the masses not liking that, but I've always found something beautiful in tragedy that Alien 3 and it's amazing score, as Tucumcari_Bound mentioned, brings to the screen most powerfully. I've always recognized this about Alien 3, and the assembly cut shows that there was a well-made film in there too. I'm not kidding, if you've always hated Alien 3, watch the assembly cut on the SE DVD. It won't change your opinion if you didn't like where they were going with the series, but you'll see that it is a much more coherent and fluid film.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 25, 2007, 12:39:38 AM
I think people don't like Alien 3 mostly for the direction they were going with the series. If Alien was horror and Aliens action, then Alien 3 was drama. With the dark brooding tone, it only fit that everyone had to die. Newt and Hicks being killed off in the first minutes definately pissed people off, and apparently James Cameron the most. But i think it was very essential, just to make Ripley alone again. Ripley was traumatized by the events of the first film, finds out her only child died after being un-frozen in the second and is forced to face her demons again and fight the aliens. But she succeeds and creates new friends, just to wake up from cryo-sleep once again to find herself alone again and still has to fight her demons. The only way she can kill off the aliens once and for all is to sacrifice herself. In the end Ripley's saga is a great tragedy. I can totally understand the masses not liking that, but I've always found something beautiful in tragedy that Alien 3 and it's amazing score, as Tucumcari_Bound mentioned, brings to the screen most powerfully. I've always recognized this about Alien 3, and the assembly cut shows that there was a well-made film in there too. I'm not kidding, if you've always hated Alien 3, watch the assembly cut on the SE DVD. It won't change your opinion if you didn't like where they were going with the series, but you'll see that it is a much more coherent and fluid film.

Well said BeauButabi. If people didn't like it upon first viewing I think they should view the Assembly Cut this time around. The big problem with the film as you said is that the killed off Hicks and Newt but I think it was important to do so. It fit Ripley's world perfectly. Besides, I don't think it would have been proper for the character of Newt to be running around in a prison full of guy's. It just wouldn't seem to fit.

I've always loved that film and I will continue to. Everytime I view it I love it even more than I ever did. It should have been the ending of the series, or at least Ripley's story.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: KevinJCBJK on August 25, 2007, 01:26:14 AM
I'll be sure to get the SE version...I don't even remember much of 3.

What was Ressurection about?


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Mw/NNrules on August 25, 2007, 09:17:14 AM
I totally disagree with you about Alien 3 Mw/NNrules. Have you seen the Assembly Extended Cut?
No.
I totally disagree with you about Alien 3 Mw/NNrules. Have you seen the Assembly Extended Cut? It's a flat out MASTERPICE. It fills in all the plot holes that were missing from the theatrical version. This version is the closest to David Fincher's vision.

A lot of people put down ALIEN3 for the simple fact that it followed ALIENS as wasn't as action heavy as that film. It went back to more of the horror and suspence of the original Alien film and it succeeded. I personally think Alien 3 holds the best ending and score of the series. Alien, Aliens, and Alien3 are all MASTERPIECES. They should have stopped there. Alien Resurrection, although a solid sci-fi film all in itself, it doesn't hold a candle to the previous three. They should have stopped and made it a trilogy. It would have been one of the best ever.

I dunno how you can put down the original Predator. It's a full blown sci-fi classic and it still holds up today to any sci-fi film being made. It's just a classic, period. Arnold has never been cooler and there hasn't been such a cool cast of characters assembled in years since. Predator 2 although not as good as the first, wasn't that bad. It adds more to the Predator character and the ending is pretty great.
I'm not putting it down, I just don't like it as much.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 25, 2007, 10:49:16 AM
No.I'm not putting it down, I just don't like it as much.

That's fair enough. I was just stating how much I loved it. haha I love talking about that film.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Mw/NNrules on August 25, 2007, 10:51:46 AM
That's fair enough. I was just stating how much I loved it. haha I love talking about that film.
Predator is 4/5 from me. Alien and Aliens are 5/5. All good.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: KevinJCBJK on August 25, 2007, 04:20:14 PM
I just can't stop watching this trailer, and I just told my friend about it, now he's going to watch it all day at work tomorrow.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on August 28, 2007, 11:49:28 AM
I just can't stop watching this trailer, and I just told my friend about it, now he's going to watch it all day at work tomorrow.

I can't stop watching it myself. It really does look like the film has gone back to the roots that made these franchises special. I burnt the trailer onto DVD. It looks even better watching it on TV!


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Kurug3n on September 01, 2007, 02:00:45 PM
I saw the trailer before Death Sentence and really it didn't really look like it was any better than what AVP looked like. :-\


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 01, 2007, 06:43:38 PM
I saw the trailer before Death Sentence and really it didn't really look like it was any better than what AVP looked like. :-\

That's not what I've been hearing. Besides, I've seen the trailer, and trust me, it looks FAR BETTER THAN AVP. You're talking to the right guy here. I'm a huge fan of the Alien and Predator series. I knew from day one of the trailer release of AVP that it was horrible, and I guessed right. This has a totally different look to it, in the tradition of ALIENS and the original Predator written all over it.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Mw/NNrules on September 01, 2007, 07:02:30 PM
How's Pred 2, anyways?
On another note, the trailer for the first AVP was horrible. Just CGI glimpses of the two alien races. Not even scary.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Kurug3n on September 01, 2007, 09:44:34 PM
That's not what I've been hearing. Besides, I've seen the trailer, and trust me, it looks FAR BETTER THAN AVP. You're talking to the right guy here. I'm a huge fan of the Alien and Predator series. I knew from day one of the trailer release of AVP that it was horrible, and I guessed right. This has a totally different look to it, in the tradition of ALIENS and the original Predator written all over it.

Unless its going to add both horror elements(Alien) and just a plot that has no sense whats so ever (Predator) then it should work.But with tickets 10 BUCKS!!!! i rather wait till its on DVD O0


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 02, 2007, 10:46:39 AM
How's Pred 2, anyways?
On another note, the trailer for the first AVP was horrible. Just CGI glimpses of the two alien races. Not even scary.

Predator 2 has a lot more action than Predator. It doesn't let up from the opening frame. There are some extremely cool elements to the film though. We see even more how ruthless and vicious the predator is. There's more weaponry, more killing, etc, etc. The ending is also pretty memorable.

I think it's a solid sequel. It's not as good as the first, but it's highly entertaining, especially if you like action films.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Mw/NNrules on September 02, 2007, 01:38:11 PM
Predator 2 has a lot more action than Predator. It doesn't let up from the opening frame. There are some extremely cool elements to the film though. We see even more how ruthless and vicious the predator is. There's more weaponry, more killing, etc, etc. The ending is also pretty memorable.

I think it's a solid sequel. It's not as good as the first, but it's highly entertaining, especially if you like action films.
I've heard stuff around the same lines.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 02, 2007, 07:20:09 PM
I've heard stuff around the same lines.

The Predator is just so badass and cool looking. How can you not like it?


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: KevinJCBJK on September 03, 2007, 01:58:53 PM
The Predator is just so badass and cool looking. How can you not like it?

Yeah, and it has cool guns! Guns man! And gruesome deaths and a hot sweaty spanish chick who's shirt is pratically see-thru. What's not to like?


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 03, 2007, 03:00:42 PM
Yeah, and it has cool guns! Guns man! And gruesome deaths and a hot sweaty spanish chick who's shirt is pratically see-thru. What's not to like?

hahaha this is true! Maria Conchita Alonso is pretty damn hot.  :-*


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: Tuco the ugly on September 03, 2007, 03:07:20 PM
hahaha this is true! Maria Conchita Alonso is pretty damn hot.  :-*

Was.  :D


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 03, 2007, 03:58:41 PM
Was.  :D

haha yeah she's aged a bit these days. She was a looker though in her day.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator Requiem (AVP 2) Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 11, 2007, 04:40:15 PM
First INTERVIEW with director's Brother Strause since the release of the Trailer. This is a great read! Enjoy!

http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1569392/story.jhtml



'Alien Vs. Predator' Sequel's R-Rated Secrets Revealed:  'Breaking Rules Is A Good Thing'
Directing team Colin and Greg Strause promise 'Requiem' will be a gruesome fan-pleaser.

SANTA MONICA, California — You might not think "Alien vs. Predator" fans have much in common with Paul McCartney, but these days, both are singing the same tune:

"I've got to admit it's getting better, a little better all the time — it can't get no worse."

Type the words "Alien" and "Predator" into Google, and three thoughts on the state of the franchise become clear: The fans consider 2004's "AVP: Alien vs. Predator" to be a mockery of all they hold dear; they maintain hope that some filmmaker, someday, will capture the magic of the comics, novels and video games that established the brand; and finally, that the new red-band trailer for December 25's "Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem" kicks some serious ass.

"The studio knew that, although the last movie made a lot of money, it didn't really resonate solidly with the fans," admitted Greg Strause, one-half of the filmmaking duo billed as the Brothers Strause. "To get the same people back into the theater a second time, it was gonna be a bit of an uphill battle."

"We really have to prove to the fans," added his brother Colin, "that this movie's gonna be very different from the last one."

On August 24, the first-time filmmakers renowned for highly regarded music videos (Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Californication") and movie effects ("Titanic," "300") launched their initial attack. "Hence, the red-band trailer comin' out," grinned Greg, leaving the edit bay to grab a quick hamburger with his brother.

The duo recently spent a weekend sneaking into theaters and watching the blood-drenched, adults-only clip play in front of shrieking fans — assuring them that they're on the right track with their sequel.

"We wanted to [go R-rated] with it," added Colin, who not only wears the same sunglasses as his 1-year-older brother, but even orders his burger the same way. "I mean, we chest-burst a little kid!"

"Yeah, he dies," Greg confirmed of the ill-fated child. "Onscreen, and very painfully. It's pretty f---ed up, but breaking some of the rules is a good thing here."

Given the go-ahead to make their hard-R flick, the Brothers Strause are steering clear of the PG-13 traps that rendered their predecessor so despised that an "AVP" podcast recently declared, "The only thing [director] Paul [W.S.] Anderson did correctly was bring people closer together in their community hatred of him."

"I don't think anyone wanted us to talk to him," Colin laughed, confirming that they haven't met with Anderson. "This movie works even if you didn't see [Anderson's]."

With that, the duo gave us an exclusive peek at several minutes of intense footage, as well as a breakdown of their franchise renovations.

Say Hello To The Predalien: After bursting from a Predator's chest at the end of the first flick, "Requiem" picks up with an Alien/Predator hybrid slaughtering several Predators. "The Predalien wreaks havoc and causes a different Predator ship — it's actually a Predator scout ship in this case — to crash on Earth," Greg explained. "You see a bunch of Predators get whacked at the beginning."

The Big Bad Wolf: "Basically you're following this one Predator — the star of this movie," Greg said of the hunter in pursuit. Added Colin, "We call him the Wolf internally because basically he's Harvey Keitel from 'Pulp Fiction.' He's the cleaner. He shows up and he's not there for the trophies. ... If anybody gets in his way, he'll just cut 'em in half."

Cleaning Supplies: "At [an early] point in the movie, [the Wolf] takes a gun off of a dead Predator, and so he has double shoulder cannons," Colin explained. "There's also a cleaner case where he stores all his new weapons. It has an implosion bomb that he uses for imploding the crash ship to basically get rid of it. ... That's a new type of bomb he has."

Death To The Working Class: Avoiding the billionaires and adventurers of the first flick, the soon-to-be battlefield of Gunnison, Colorado, is populated with working-class characters similar to the early "Alien" films. "You've got a small-town sheriff [John Ortiz, 'Miami Vice'] who everyone doubts a little bit," Colin explained. "We've got a brother story between Steven Pasquale ['Rescue Me'] and Johnny Lewis ['The O.C.'] ... There's also a mom [Reiko Aylesworth, 'Mr. Brooks'] returning from the war and trying to get reunited with her family and re-establishing her relationship with her daughter." Added Greg, "She gets very Ripley-esque; she's a tough chick."

Whip It Good:  One of the "Wow!" moments in the trailer comes when the Wolf quite literally whips out his new weapon. "[When weapons were being designed,] there was this one picture of a Predator with a bullwhip," Greg recalled. "We were like, 'Sh--, this has to be in the movie! This is the coolest thing I've ever seen!' The concept is that maybe it's been made out of pieces of an Alien tail, so it has these serrated edges. ... If this whip tightens around you, it functions like a chainsaw blade and cuts you in half."

Predator, Heal Thyself: "The med kit's also back because he gets kinda f---ed up in one part," Greg said of a for-the-fans déjà vu moment with the Predator. "You get to see him do the whole med-kit scene where he's healing himself, which we didn't have in the last movie."

She's Got The Look:  "The Predalien wants to hunt and reproduce," explained Colin, confirming that while there won't be an Alien queen in the new flick, the Predalien serves essentially the same purpose. "She's got a big queen head." Added Greg: "The main concept is that a Predalien should still be primarily Alien [with] very strong Alien features but with Predator mandibles and Predator dreadlocks. It walks a little more upright than a normal Alien does, but it also has the tail. It uses that tail quite a bit, and it's got a much bigger tail than a normal Alien." The brothers confirmed that the Predalien won't use Predator weaponry.

About Face:  "We've also completely redesigned the Predator's face," Greg said of what the Wolf will look like when he takes off his mask. "This Predator has some Alien acid-blood scarring on his face." Added Colin, "One of his mandibles has been melted off, which is a throwback to the one Predator called Broken Tusk in the comics. ... A whole side of his face looks like Freddy Krueger. You can tell this guy's been through a million battles. ... His mandible design is very much like 'Predator 2'; he has multiple fangs on each mandible. ... We added a lot of these extra horns on the crown of his head as well."

The Voice Of Aliens Past:  "One of the cool things is we got Fox to go back and digitally remaster the original recordings of the Aliens from 'Aliens,' " beamed Greg. "All of [James] Cameron's sound elements have been digitally remastered — the shrieks, the computer sounds — because we wanna tie it into 'Aliens.' ... The Alien design is also a throwback to Cameron's version. It's different, but it's inspired by the warrior Alien."

Save It For A Rainy Day: "The whole final battle between the Predator and the Predalien is pretty damn cool," Greg said. "['Requiem'] is like two different films. The first half of the movie is one tone, and the second half is when the rain's coming down ... [and] it kicks into higher gear and has more of an action thread."

Leave Your Foam Finger At Home: "We got rid of all the armor on the Predators because those guys [in 'AVP'] literally looked like football players," explained Greg. "We were like, 'The Predator in the first two movies didn't need armor!' "

After their meal, the Brothers Strause went back to the edit bay to screen two scenes: one in a morgue that ends with the Predator dissolving an Alien's face with liquid from a blue-lit container, and another with the civilians stocking up at a gun store and listening on a radio while the National Guard are taken apart by Aliens.

"I'd like to do another one but I'd like to do it in space. The next one either has to be more of the bridge after this and before 'Alien,' or you could do something after 'Aliens,' " Greg said, getting back to work. "We have a pretty finite ending to this, but we have a cliffhanger per se; it's a setup."


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 21, 2007, 01:00:55 PM
First Official Poster released!


(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c157/Iamalittlekid/avprpostersupersize1.jpg?t=1190397188)



Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: Whalestoe on September 21, 2007, 02:01:52 PM
First Official Poster released!


(http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c157/Iamalittlekid/avprpostersupersize1.jpg?t=1190397188)



Holy crap! That poster is beautiful.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 21, 2007, 04:19:22 PM
Holy crap! That poster is beautiful.

I agree Whalestoe! So much better than those bland and dull posters for AVP. This has some personality to it!


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: Silenzio on September 21, 2007, 08:45:08 PM
I dunno, looks pretty gay to me.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 21, 2007, 08:46:28 PM
I dunno, looks pretty gay to me.

Who asked you.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: Silenzio on September 21, 2007, 08:49:16 PM
Um... you did.




This is from PM.



S-man, it would make my life complete if you checked out the AVP-R poster!  Thanks man!  Fuckin' awesome!  Masterpiece!  Nipples!


Also, dude, what's your secret to getting so much tail?


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on September 21, 2007, 08:56:05 PM
Um... you did.




This is from PM.




LOL!!!!!!! ;D I did not say that. hahaha GOOD one though bro.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: Silenzio on September 21, 2007, 08:57:15 PM
:)  I have my moments.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 11, 2007, 12:59:15 PM

Here's the first 5 minutes of the film!!!

Note: It's been confirmed that it's edited down. Anyway, here's the clip!

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/a/Aliens-Vs-Predator-Requiem/index-3687454. html


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: KevinJCBJK on December 15, 2007, 10:35:59 AM
Here's the first 5 minutes of the film!!!

Note: It's been confirmed that it's edited down. Anyway, here's the clip!

http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/a/Aliens-Vs-Predator-Requiem/index-3687454. html

Damnit! It's been taken down! Oh well. When does it come out again?


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: The Firecracker on December 15, 2007, 11:15:29 AM
I dunno, looks pretty gay to me.

Agreed.

Looks kinda stupid looking.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 15, 2007, 01:05:07 PM
Agreed.

Looks kinda stupid looking.

Gay my ass.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: Whalestoe on December 15, 2007, 02:12:20 PM
Gay my ass.

Well, that is where something gay would go--but I still like the poster. And I'm still excited for this. O0


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem Trailer!!!!
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 15, 2007, 10:15:45 PM
Well, that is where something gay would go--but I still like the poster. And I'm still excited for this. O0

haha I knew that was coming.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: BeauButabi on December 26, 2007, 01:40:01 AM
Just got back from it, and it was one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever been subjected to in my entire life. Seriously. The worst out of all the Alien AND Predator movies, and that includes the first (PG-13 rated) AvP. I always thought I hated Predator 2, but if you told me I had to sit through that movie 3 times in a row, I wouldn't be so bummed after sitting through AvP:R once. The LONGEST/BORINGEST/MOST SUICIDE INDUCING 86 minutes of my life. I'm just saying...


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 26, 2007, 09:42:05 AM
Just got back from it, and it was one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever been subjected to in my entire life. Seriously. The worst out of all the Alien AND Predator movies, and that includes the first (PG-13 rated) AvP. I always thought I hated Predator 2, but if you told me I had to sit through that movie 3 times in a row, I wouldn't be so bummed after sitting through AvP:R once. The LONGEST/BORINGEST/MOST SUICIDE INDUCING 86 minutes of my life. I'm just saying...

hahaha well, I haven't seen it yet, but somehow I don't believe it's as bad as you're saying. I'm almost positive it's better than that horrid AVP. Sure, I know the plot is going to be thin. I know the acting won't be that great, but come on, who's going to see this for any of that. I want to see these iconic movie monsters go at it. I've already heard the score, and it's fantastic.

I'm not looking at this film as high art, just an action/horror film that homages the great alien and predator films of years past.

I'll give my review later on after I see it.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: BeauButabi on December 26, 2007, 03:06:27 PM
hahaha well, I haven't seen it yet, but somehow I don't believe it's as bad as you're saying. I'm almost positive it's better than that horrid AVP. Sure, I know the plot is going to be thin. I know the acting won't be that great, but come on, who's going to see this for any of that. I want to see these iconic movie monsters go at it. I've already heard the score, and it's fantastic.

I'm not looking at this film as high art, just an action/horror film that homages the great alien and predator films of years past.

I'll give my review later on after I see it.
Trust me, all I was looking for in AvP:R was a mindless action flick. Remember, I fucking LOVED Shoot 'em Up. The first AvP, while not the greatest action flick of it's kind, had a little thing called structure and pace, and I can totally just pop in the DVD on a rainy afternoon and be entertained. Say what you want about Paul W.S. Anderson, but that guy can make very watchable movies.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 26, 2007, 04:43:37 PM
Trust me, all I was looking for in AvP:R was a mindless action flick. Remember, I fucking LOVED Shoot 'em Up. The first AvP, while not the greatest action flick of it's kind, had a little thing called structure and pace, and I can totally just pop in the DVD on a rainy afternoon and be entertained. Say what you want about Paul W.S. Anderson, but that guy can make very watchable movies.

Well my friend, I will let you know my opinion later. You may be right.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: KevinJCBJK on December 26, 2007, 06:37:03 PM
Just got back from seeing it. I thought it was much better than the first. Wish they did it mostly in the perspective in the Predator and Aliens. I really didn't care for the humans, who are every cliche in the book.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 27, 2007, 12:21:26 AM
Just got back from seeing it. I thought it was much better than the first. Wish they did it mostly in the perspective in the Predator and Aliens. I really didn't care for the humans, who are every cliche in the book.


Why is it in all these monster versus monster flicks the humans are always the central focus?
I just want to see the two monsters fight each other. CHRIST!


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 27, 2007, 10:23:58 AM

Why is it in all these monster versus monster flicks the humans are always the central focus?
I just want to see the two monsters fight each other. CHRIST!

Well, I know what you mean FC but it's kind of impossible to have two monsters being the main focus when they don't talk. People would get bored after awhile. It just wouldn't work.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 27, 2007, 12:10:02 PM
Well, I know what you mean FC but it's kind of impossible to have two monsters being the main focus when they don't talk. People would get bored after awhile. It just wouldn't work.

I wouldn't be bored.
And I'm not saying delete humans from the equation entirely. I mean have the focus on the monsters.
Have the humans be a body count.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 28, 2007, 01:51:45 PM
AVP-R is further proof that FOX doesn't care about their product and fanbase.

I'm finally convinced they only care about making that quick buck in their first weekend of release. How does FOX greenlite such a script as horrible as Shane Selerno's junk of AVP-R? It's completely laughable and amateurish right down to the final word. How does he write a story revolving around some teenage subplot that mirror's an amateur horror film such as Friday the 13th? I thought Jason Voohries was going to pop out at some point. Come on, can't you think of anything remotely better than this?

The only good thing the Strause brothers did here was their work on the Predator. All the Predator characteristics are back from Predator and Predator 2. The way he moves (Ian Whyte did a good job here), the way he sounds, and the way he acts. I was happy with the Wolf character. That's where my happiness ends with this movie.

The direction by the Strause brothers was weak, especially during the action sequences. I found myself about to like some of these scenes, but they ended before you could fully appreciate them. Also, the camera work here was unbelievably bad. To many closeups which resulted is any viewer not knowing in god's name was going on. The lighting by cinematographer Daniel Pearl was also pretty bad. We never got a good look at the Predalien. It always seemed like he was in the dark. The Aliens were just used as canon-fodder and that was it. We never got to fully appreciate the Aliens because they were getting knocked off one by one as they appeared on screen. We really never got to see them is what it seems like.

As far as I'm convinced, this "VS" thing has got to stop. It's basically ruined the greatness of both these movie monsters. Many kids are getting introduced to these two great creations by the AVP films. Can you believe that?! I don't know if a stand alone Alien or Predator film would work anymore because of how bad it's become with this AVP idea. That's pretty damn sad.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 28, 2007, 03:03:01 PM
AVP-R is further proof that FOX doesn't care about their product and fanbase.

I'm finally convinced they only care about making that quick buck in their first weekend of release. How does FOX greenlite such a script as horrible as Shane Selerno's junk of AVP-R? It's completely laughable and amateurish right down to the final word. How does he write a story revolving around some teenage subplot that mirror's an amateur horror film such as Friday the 13th? I thought Jason Voohries was going to pop out at some point. Come on, can't you think of anything remotely better than this?

The only good thing the Strause brothers did here was their work on the Predator. All the Predator characteristics are back from Predator and Predator 2. The way he moves (Ian Whyte did a good job here), the way he sounds, and the way he acts. I was happy with the Wolf character. That's where my happiness ends with this movie.

The direction by the Strause brothers was weak, especially during the action sequences. I found myself about to like some of these scenes, but they ended before you could fully appreciate them. Also, the camera work here was unbelievably bad. To many closeups which resulted is any viewer not knowing the in god's name was going on. The lighting by cinematographer Daniel Pearl was also pretty bad. We never got a good look at the Predalien. It always seemed like he was in the dark. The Aliens were just used as canon-fodder and that was it. We never got to fully appreciate the Aliens because they were getting knocked off one by one as they appeared on screen. We really never got to see them is what it seems like.

As far as I'm convinced, this "VS" thing has got to stop. It's basically ruined the greatness of both these movie monsters. Many kids are getting introduced to these two great creations by the AVP films. Can you believe that?! I don't know if a stand alone Alien or Predator film would work anymore because of how bad it's become with this AVP idea. That's pretty damn sad.



The first negative review I've read from TB.

History in the making folks.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 28, 2007, 03:27:48 PM

The first negative review I've read from TB.

History in the making folks.

lol, I honestly don't like everything I see FC. I'm not kidding when I say that. Most of the time I just don't focus on the negative stuff I watch. I don't like talking about it. Even Groggy here can back me up about that. I've had many convo's with him about what I like and dislike in MESSENGER. However, I'm a big fan of the Alien and Predator series and this PISSED ME OFF. I was looking forward to it. It was a bit better than AVP but it still missed the mark.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: Ben Tyreen on December 29, 2007, 09:59:26 AM
  They should just have Arnie, Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura and their team of mercenaries join up with Sigourney Weaver and her crew and reappear in a movie.  They could show up at the end, kill Alien and Predator, talk about a twist, didn't see it coming.  The movie could even end with them all sharing a good laugh.  We did it! O0


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: tucumcari bound on December 29, 2007, 10:51:58 AM
  They should just have Arnie, Carl Weathers, Jesse Ventura and their team of mercenaries join up with Sigourney Weaver and her crew and reappear in a movie.  They could show up at the end, kill Alien and Predator, talk about a twist, didn't see it coming.  The movie could even end with them all sharing a good laugh.  We did it! O0

Anything but some teenage drama sub-plot would have been better. Sigourney Weaver would never touch the AVP series. She refused to watch the first one from what I've read.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: KevinJCBJK on January 04, 2008, 08:54:30 PM
I wouldn't be bored.
And I'm not saying delete humans from the equation entirely. I mean have the focus on the monsters.
Have the humans be a body count.

The film should have been centered around the Predator. With humans dying in the cross fire. Only get Arnold is you want to center the plot around humans.

Also have the Aliens and Predator speak in subtitles.

Alien: Oh shit! *gets sliced*


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 04, 2008, 09:19:06 PM
The film should have been centered around the Predator. With humans dying in the cross fire. Only get Arnold is you want to center the plot around humans.

Also have the Aliens and Predator speak in subtitles.

Alien: Oh shit! *gets sliced*
*alien gets decapicated*
other alien: thats no way to get aHEAD in life hohoho *rimshot*


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: KevinJCBJK on January 05, 2008, 01:13:04 PM
lol, I honestly don't like everything I see FC. I'm not kidding when I say that. Most of the time I just don't focus on the negative stuff I watch. I don't like talking about it. Even Groggy here can back me up about that. I've had many convo's with him about what I like and dislike in MESSENGER. However, I'm a big fan of the Alien and Predator series and this PISSED ME OFF. I was looking forward to it. It was a bit better than AVP but it still missed the mark.

You have to admit, some of the gruesome human deaths were pretty funny.

And the black dude dies first. At least five people shouted that in the theatre.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: Kurug3n on January 05, 2008, 03:36:57 PM
http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bz-49-en-70-2h2p.html (http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bz-49-en-70-2h2p.html)

The helmet is cool O0


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 05, 2008, 11:17:22 PM

The helmet is cool O0

Yes, a nice looking addition but I wouldn't pay that kinda money when a movie as crappy as Pred 2 is included.


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: KevinJCBJK on January 07, 2008, 08:08:43 PM
Yes, a nice looking addition but I wouldn't pay that kinda money when a movie as crappy as Pred 2 is included.

Okay...who's next?


Title: Re: Aliens vs. Predator - Requiem (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 13, 2008, 05:32:36 PM
I saw this yesterday and got exactly what I expected. An entertaining 90 minutes.
In my eyes it is on par with AVP, which I didn't think was too bad.
I must admit that AVP was the more original of the two. It had that back story of the ancient temple whilst AVP2's story was probably thought up over a visit to the shitter.


1.Aliens bring down a Predator space craft.

2.The ship crash lands on the outskirts of a town in Colorado.

3.Let the mayhem ensue!

The fights were kinda disappointing because everything is shrowded in shadow all the time.
The wrestling matches the Pred had with the Aliens in the original AVP were much better AND COULD BE SEEN!!!!
AVP2 did have the gore the two franchises are known for though so it isn't exactly eclipsed by its bloodless predecessor because of its other flaws.

overall 6/10.