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Title: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Kurug3n on October 10, 2007, 04:35:50 PM
Cronenberg's latest movie since A History Of Violence.Anyone seen it yet? Might check it out on thursday.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Mw/NNrules on October 10, 2007, 06:09:21 PM
Cronenberg's latest movie since A History Of Violence.Anyone seen it yet? Might check it out on thursday.
Looks interesting, and I've been thinking about it.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 10, 2007, 06:19:12 PM
It was very good. You'll enjoy a nice knife/fist fight towards the later part of the second act.

am I the only person who likes Cronenberg's more commercial films?
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Mw/NNrules on October 10, 2007, 07:12:54 PM
It was very good. You'll enjoy a nice knife/fist fight towards the later part of the second act.

am I the only person who likes Cronenberg's more commercial films?

Knife fight sounds cool.
Only person? Probably not. By commercial, you mean this and A History of Violence? Anyways I remember liking The Fly, and I was surprised that Cronenberg took up such a normal looking movie at the time (05, A History of Violence). Now I guess I don't care, but it seemed weird to me at the time.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 10, 2007, 07:16:19 PM

Only person? Probably not

That's how I feel, everybody else I know (two people ::)) doesn't seem to like his last two films.

Quote
. By commercial, you mean this and A History of Violence?

Yes.

"The Fly" would qualify as well.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Whalestoe on October 10, 2007, 07:21:23 PM
It was very good. You'll enjoy a nice knife/fist fight towards the later part of the second act.

am I the only person who likes Cronenberg's more commercial films?


Nope. I loved A History of Violence. Cronenberg's still got it. He's speaking at my girlfriend's school this weekend and showing Eastern Promises (why did I have to go visit last weekend!!!)
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 10, 2007, 07:25:52 PM
(why did I have to go visit last weekend!!!)


To get laid obviously.

If you visit this week you get a double whammy of goodness.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 10, 2007, 07:28:06 PM
am I the only person who likes Cronenberg's more commercial films?


I see the confusion now...

I mean to say...

"am I the only person who PREFERS Cronenberg's more commercial films to his artsy one's?"
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Whalestoe on October 10, 2007, 10:38:49 PM

To get laid obviously.

If you visit this week you get a double whammy of goodness.

 ^-^
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: dave jenkins on October 11, 2007, 08:44:03 AM
I see the confusion now...

I mean to say...

"am I the only person who PREFERS Cronenberg's more commercial films to his artsy one's?"
If by "artsy ones" you mean Videodrome, Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Crash, etc. then, yeah, you're the only one who prefers the others. Unless you don't count the millions whose fave Cronenberg is The Fly.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 11, 2007, 12:03:13 PM
If by "artsy ones" you mean Videodrome, Dead Ringers, Naked Lunch, Crash, etc. then, yeah, you're the only one who prefers the others.

Thought so.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Kurug3n on October 22, 2007, 10:01:54 AM
Censors Slammed for Release of 'Eastern Promises'

British censors have been criticized over their decision to allow violent film Eastern Promises starring Naomi Watts and Viggo Mortensen to be screened uncut. The David Cronenberg film centers on the Russian mafia in London, and includes shocking scenes including one in which a knife is twisted into a man's eye and two victims have their throats cut in graphic detail. The scenes were so gruesome that members of the audience at the premiere last Wednesday at the London Film Festival gasped and turned away from the screen. Now the decision by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) to award the film an 18 certificate without any cuts has come under fire from former censors. Andreas Whittam, former president of the BBFC, says, "If I thought this was the type of film that was likely to make people leave the cinema, or even make them have to look away for quite a while, then I would question why the scene should be left in." But the BBFC stood by the decision, a spokesman adds, "Scenes that make people turn away are part of the fun of going to movies. These days we are not here to cut; we are here to provide information and let people then make up their minds."

taken from IMDB.com
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 23, 2007, 03:10:08 PM
Censors Slammed for Release of 'Eastern Promises'

British censors have been criticized over their decision to allow violent film Eastern Promises starring Naomi Watts and Viggo Mortensen to be screened uncut. The David Cronenberg film centers on the Russian mafia in London, and includes shocking scenes including one in which a knife is twisted into a man's eye and two victims have their throats cut in graphic detail. The scenes were so gruesome that members of the audience at the premiere last Wednesday at the London Film Festival gasped and turned away from the screen. Now the decision by the British Board of Film Classification (BBFC) to award the film an 18 certificate without any cuts has come under fire from former censors. Andreas Whittam, former president of the BBFC, says, "If I thought this was the type of film that was likely to make people leave the cinema, or even make them have to look away for quite a while, then I would question why the scene should be left in." But the BBFC stood by the decision, a spokesman adds, "Scenes that make people turn away are part of the fun of going to movies. These days we are not here to cut; we are here to provide information and let people then make up their minds."

taken from IMDB.com



It's a Cronenberg film...what were they expecting?
A touching story about family and the crazy hijinks of goofy gangsters over the holidays?

I'm surprised Mortensen's penis wasn't an issue here in the states.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Kurug3n on October 23, 2007, 05:15:47 PM

It's a Cronenberg film...what were they expecting?
A touching story about family and the crazy hijinks of goofy gangsters over the holidays?

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Kurug3n on January 04, 2008, 02:04:44 PM
I liked the movie alot and this marks the 3 1/2 Cronenberg film i watched. Seen Scanners, AHOV, Eastern Promises and some parts of The Fly.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 04, 2008, 03:14:57 PM
another thing forthose of you in the hollywood area:

http://www.afi.com/onscreen/arclight/arclight.aspx#easte (http://www.afi.com/onscreen/arclight/arclight.aspx#easte)
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: moviesceleton on February 28, 2008, 08:56:51 AM
Just saw this, I'll give it 8/10. It's very violent but the violence isn't pointless.

This week I'm able to see movies I other wise couldn't because I'm visiting my sister in Helsinki 8) No Country for Old Men and Sweney Todd coming soon.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Kurug3n on February 28, 2008, 09:07:30 PM
Just saw this, I'll give it 8/10. It's very violent but the violence isn't pointless.

Wasnt that Bath House fight scene great O0
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 28, 2008, 10:33:46 PM
Not even sure if I'd say EASTERN PROMISES was a commercial movie. It definitely was very deep with a deliberate pace and the ending was anything but conventional or formula foregoing a typical Hollywood style ending.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on February 28, 2008, 10:34:52 PM
Not even sure if I'd say EASTERN PROMISES was a commercial movie.



I would say it was more commercial than his earlier stuff which appeals to a more pretentious audience.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 28, 2008, 10:39:49 PM


I would say it was more commercial than his earlier stuff which appeals to a more pretentious audience.

 ;D

Maybe, I just happen to think it's not a movie for those who have to have things thrown at them every few minutes to sustain interest. It was a carefully plotted film with a slow build punctuated by occasional graphically violent scenes and the film was far from linear. IMO, it's not a mainstream flick in the traditional sense.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: moviesceleton on February 29, 2008, 02:29:39 AM
Wasnt that Bath House fight scene great O0
Yeah, very  8)

Not even sure if I'd say EASTERN PROMISES was a commercial movie. It definitely was very deep with a deliberate pace and the ending was anything but conventional or formula foregoing a typical Hollywood style ending.
Maybe, but why are you raising this subject? Seems to me coming out of the blue ;D
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 29, 2008, 10:46:39 AM
It was talked about on page one and spilled over onto page two. So how is it coming out of the blue? I just saw the movie recently. Was my response problematic for you or something?
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: moviesceleton on March 01, 2008, 02:25:57 AM
It was talked about on page one and spilled over onto page two. So how is it coming out of the blue? I just saw the movie recently. Was my response problematic for you or something?
Not at all, I just couldn't see how it related to any of the earlier posts. Forget I ever mentioned it :)
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: dave jenkins on October 09, 2008, 12:03:15 PM
No, FC, link THIS thread.     
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: The Firecracker on October 10, 2008, 11:12:46 PM
No, FC, link THIS thread.     


I did that two days ago.
Somebody is going to have to tell TB to copy and paste his post on THIS thread.
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on October 11, 2008, 12:58:15 AM

A Russian teenager living in London who dies during childbirth leaves clues to a midwife (Naomi Watts) in her journal that that could tie her child to a rape involving a violent Russian mob family.

David Cronenberg strikes gold yet again with this taut, crime thriller. An instant classic is how I would describe this gem.

I finally had the opportunity to view this authentic, highly realistic look into Russian-underground organized crime. This is one of the only few mafia-based films that has closely resembled that of THE GODFATHER TRIOLOGY.

This film requires a viewer with patience because of the intelligent and smart storyline that develops throughout the film. You cannot turn away for a second without being a bit confused in the process. I would recommend multiple viewings.

I have to mention the acting work here by Viggo Mortensen. This man amazes me more and more with each passing role. He can take on anything as far as I'm concerned. His Russian accent was spot on. I loved Mortensen's character so much, I hope they revist him again in a possible sequel and continue this crime story.

(http://www.moviegoods.com/Assets/product_images/1020/402881.1020.A.jpg)
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: Dust Devil on July 30, 2009, 03:44:42 AM
A few years from the release of Eastern Promises I think we can agree the huge hype about it was a little exaggerated. I liked the movie, it definitely has some strong points, but honestly there's little we haven't seen already in movies about the mafia and similar organized crime groups, the only difference is that here we can see Russians in the main role, rather than the usual Irishmen, Italians or Jews. There were some pretty explicit parts concerning killings and things like that, but again, we really saw all that before, and thus although certainly tragic I'd call them far from gruesome or unbearable. The actors did a solid job, I (surprisingly) liked Viggo. I'm no expert but I don't know about the character's accents everybody's praising, it seems to me the classic strong non-English foreigner accent, couldn't really tag it strictly as a Russian accent. That and a couple of other semi-ignorant flops that could have been easily corrected I simply could not understand, but unlike the meticulous me those things probably won't (or better - didn't) bother much the audience.

Good, not great.


7.25/10
Title: Re: Eastern Promises (2007)
Post by: dave jenkins on January 12, 2022, 06:17:27 PM
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