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Title: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: T.H. on February 21, 2008, 02:30:30 PM
I don't know if I have ever been this disappointed with a film in my entire life. I comprehend its message, an abstract portrayal of an artist lost in a bleak world, but it did absolutely nothing for me. This movie is more hollow than 2001, which makes the latter great and AR void of all life, emotion. It's almost an amalgamation of Bergman, Eisnenstein and Kurosawa that falls completely flat. Characters enter in and out of this film at will, without any characteristics or personality traits separating a genius artist from a peasant. When I watch a Tarkovsky film, I want to see Tarkovsky, not whatever this should be classified as.

The cinematography was great at times, very murky and clumsy at others. The score was good-ish but not properly used. I would call AR pretentious, but it doesn't even care enough about itself most of the time. The abstract form is nice in art, but has no place to dominate a 3hr plus narrative film. complete.waste.of.time. Is this first hour even necessary, better yet, was this film necessary? ugh! Maybe if I watch this again, I will praise it calling it a film shot and paced like the movement of a brush, but I highly doubt it. I am shocked that I despised this movie so much. Now, SLWB, tear me a new one.


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on February 21, 2008, 04:04:05 PM
The 1966 version, which is 205 minutes long, is better.


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: titoli on February 21, 2008, 06:24:31 PM
I forced myself to watch it but didn't make it beyond 1\2 hour. I understand this is his masterpiece. Actually it must be: Nostalgia I couldn't make it beyond 5 minutes.


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: T.H. on February 21, 2008, 10:24:42 PM
The 1966 version, which is 205 minutes long, is better.

I believe that's the version I watched. I will eventually give this another viewing...someday.

 ;D Good one, titoli.


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on February 22, 2008, 12:16:04 AM
AR probably is Tarkovsky's best film. I find Stalker, Nostalgia, The Sacrifice almost unwatchable. The others are enjoyable in parts, but AR is the one I can enjoy all the way through. I say that, though, having only watched it on video. The different segments make it possible to go through the thing in easy stages. I don't know if I could actually go into a cinema and watch the 205 minute version all in one go.


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: titoli on February 22, 2008, 03:32:57 PM
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I don't know if I could actually go into a cinema and watch the 205 minute version all in one go.

You should starve yourself for 2-3 days and get there armed with a solid menu based on lasagna and assorted pasta, good sparkling wine and the rest. What a go that would be! You might even end up liking it and willing to try the experiment on Nostalgia.
With a different menu, though.


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on February 22, 2008, 04:26:46 PM
You should starve yourself for 2-3 days and get there armed with a solid menu based on lasagna and assorted pasta, good sparkling wine and the rest. What a go that would be! You might even end up liking it and willing to try the experiment on Nostalgia.
With a different menu, though.
You can do this in Italian cinemas? I'm moving to Rome!


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: titoli on February 22, 2008, 05:05:09 PM
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You can do this in Italian cinemas?

Only in the cinemas where AR is shown (none, in the last 30 years). Bon Appetit.  O0


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: titoli on April 09, 2010, 03:20:42 PM
Andrey Rublyov (1966) Tarkovskiy's movies are famous all over as a surefire remedy against insomnia. But this movie is probably the only exception. It starts slowly but then it grips you and the last episode ("The Bell") is very moving. 8\10


Title: Re: Andrei Rublev (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 09, 2010, 04:26:54 PM
Andrey Rublyov (1966) Tarkovskiy's movies are famous all over as a surefire remedy against insomnia. But this movie is probably the only exception. It starts slowly but then it grips you and the last episode ("The Bell") is very moving. 8\10
Yeah. Tarkovsky's one great film.