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Title: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on March 08, 2008, 02:42:11 PM
It's being filmed right near my town, about twenty minutes away. Starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Michelle Williams, Jackie Earl Haley, Ben Kingsley, Mark Ruffalo, and Max Von Sydow.

Drama is set in 1954, U.S. Marshal Teddy Daniels is investigating the disappearance of a murderess who escaped from a hospital for the criminally insane and is presumed to be hiding on the remote Shutter Island.


http://imdb.com/title/tt1130884/

 http://www.patriotledger.com/news/state_news/x633711840

I'm about to head down there to see what's happening. I'll also be going tomorrow.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: moviesceleton on March 09, 2008, 07:27:52 AM
Did you try to be an extra or something?


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on March 09, 2008, 07:50:21 AM
Nah, I didn't both. The calls for extras were about 50 miles away, and supposedly thousands and thousands of people were there.

And I wouldn't make a good starving jew or a good soldier.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on January 03, 2009, 01:29:33 PM
I have the script if anyone wants me to send it to them.

Release still slated for October 2nd of this year.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on February 12, 2009, 08:38:22 AM
Thelma Schoonmaker says that they're preparing for a private screening, so it must be just about done.

 http://www.blogtalkradio.com/Back-By-Midnight/2009/01/07/A-Conversation-With-Thelma-Schoonmaker

I'm guessing the teaser trailer or regular trailer will be released around July.

Lol I'm pretty much the only person that has posted here.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: noodles_leone on February 12, 2009, 09:04:07 AM
The one thing that bother me about this film is that 2 years ago a stupid guy had to read the book for our class and make a presentation about it.

The fucka told the ending.

I hope for him he's no made of wood.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on June 11, 2009, 02:14:58 PM
The trailer. Looks very good.

 http://www.shutterisland.com/


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: T.H. on June 11, 2009, 02:41:46 PM
I strongly disagree. Scorsese has gone limp, Leo can't act and the story looks incredibly generic (I can pretty much predict how the movie will play out). I will see it but I'm expecting a sub-par movie at best. This really looks incredibly mediocre.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on June 11, 2009, 04:23:52 PM
(I can pretty much predict how the movie will play out).

Can you also predict sport results?


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on June 11, 2009, 05:19:31 PM
Looks like one of those PG-13 rated Japanese horror remakes they release in the middle of January because they have no faith in it.
TH, if it doesn't appeal to you don't feel obligated to go and watch it just because it's a Marty film.

I like that Scorsese is tackeling something out of his element (it isn't another crime or Biopic/period piece) but this just looks like by the numbers tosh.
The film may have fallen victim of a bad trailer but I'm not going to take that risk.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: T.H. on June 11, 2009, 05:26:18 PM
I predicted the titans would reach the superbowl in week 5 of the 99 season and a Patriots superbowl victory in 01 lol.

Here's the movie, I'm not saying this will be 100% accurate obviously. Note: I did not read the script or anything.

anyway, the movie will go two ways: one the supernatural, which was done so many times before and Scorsese simply isn't motivated enough to give the movie what it needs from a visual standpoint. Two, he was led to believe his wife and child were murdered but they're really alive and he sees glimpses of them at the instution, basically a darker scooby doo episode. either way, you know he is the 67th patient or whatever.

*FC, I feel obligated to see it b/c I've seen every narrative feature he's made, might as keep it going.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on June 11, 2009, 08:27:18 PM
It does look rather generic but it undoubtedly looks good in my opinion. However, it seems far too similar to Shock Corridor.

And Leo can act, as far as I'm concerned. He's had his share of faulty performances (Blood Diamond) but I feel he keeps getting better and better (Rev. Road).


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on June 12, 2009, 08:56:16 AM
Looks like this is gonna be a harsh year full of great falls. And we're still only half way there.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: moviesceleton on June 23, 2009, 11:46:26 AM
This could be either a David Fincher movie or a M. Night Shyamalan movie. Or then the trailer just gives a wrong impression. But I guess I'll see it anyway. I'd like to see Scorsese do something really small-budget next but I don't think that's gonna happen...


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on June 23, 2009, 02:25:35 PM
Well his next narrative film project, Silence, isn't exactly small budget - but definitely 'personal' along the lines of Kundun and Last Temptation. So at least its not something like he's been doing the past decade.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: moviesceleton on June 24, 2009, 09:51:34 AM
Are you positive that Silence is happening? Cause that's a Scorsese movie I really want to see.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on June 24, 2009, 11:41:25 AM
Almost positive, I'm sure we'll hear more about it come later this year. That and his upcoming George Harrison documentary, which is in post-production.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: dave jenkins on February 19, 2010, 05:54:14 PM
This could be either a David Fincher movie or a M. Night Shyamalan movie.
It's an M. Night Shyamalan movie (I made the mistake of leafing through the novel a couple weeks back. ) Now comes a pan from the NYT:  http://movies.nytimes.com/2010/02/19/movies/19shutter.html?8dpc

No way am I watching this turkey.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Whalestoe on February 19, 2010, 06:23:52 PM
Gonna go see it tonight. I'll report back.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on February 20, 2010, 10:35:50 AM
Its his best movie in 20 years, since Goodfellas. Just putting the truth up there before Groggy and company have to spew their faggotry.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on February 20, 2010, 10:59:51 AM
Here's the movie, I'm not saying this will be 100% accurate obviously. Note: I did not read the script or anything.

anyway, the movie will go two ways: one the supernatural, which was done so many times before and Scorsese simply isn't motivated enough to give the movie what it needs from a visual standpoint. Two, he was led to believe his wife and child were murdered but they're really alive and he sees glimpses of them at the instution, basically a darker scooby doo episode. either way, you know he is the 67th patient or whatever.
Both almost completely wrong, lol. And yea the 67th patient thing is obvious but the trailer giving that away is only a small fraction of the movie's surprises.

This is probably Scorsese's best in terms of visuals, many times it's just incredible to look at. And I'm telling you, Leo really wasn't a great actor in his Titanic days at all, and barely better at all within his Gangs of New York Days. However, with Revolutionary Road and especially Shutter Island, he's quickly involving into a great actor.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: noodles_leone on February 20, 2010, 11:51:24 AM
Leo was amazing in the Departed (first time I really cared about a Scorsese character). But yeah, I saw (third or fourth time) gangs of new york the other day, and among the film's weaknesses, there is Leo.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on February 20, 2010, 01:47:56 PM
Its his best movie in 20 years, since Goodfellas.

What kind of crap is that?

Bringing Out the Dead is brilliant, and Kundun is very good. Which means, from your words, Shutter Island must be fucking Chinese fireworks or some heavy shit like that. Don't make me go see it.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: T.H. on February 20, 2010, 02:12:00 PM
Both almost completely wrong, lol. And yea the 67th patient thing is obvious but the trailer giving that away is only a small fraction of the movie's surprises.

This is probably Scorsese's best in terms of visuals, many times it's just incredible to look at. And I'm telling you, Leo really wasn't a great actor in his Titanic days at all, and barely better at all within his Gangs of New York Days. However, with Revolutionary Road and especially Shutter Island, he's quickly involving into a great actor.

You know I can't trust you when it comes to Scorsese. I just don't believe that this even begins to rival Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, BotD, Goodfellas, ect in terms of visuals. And Leo is a focus group approved eunuch that lacks charisma and has zero screen presence. He's a generic, 73rd rate Alain Delon on his very best day.

I'll see the movie though.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Whalestoe on February 20, 2010, 04:29:04 PM
Almost saw this. It was sold out. Went and saw Dr. Parnassus at a discount theater instead.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: dave jenkins on February 20, 2010, 09:10:58 PM
And Leo is a focus group approved eunuch that lacks charisma and has zero screen presence. He's a generic, 73rd rate Alain Delon on his very best day.
I'd buy that for a dollar.  O0


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on February 20, 2010, 09:12:37 PM
What kind of crap is that?

Bringing Out the Dead is brilliant, and Kundun is very good. Which means, from your words, Shutter Island must be fucking Chinese fireworks or some heavy shit like that. Don't make me go see it.
Well, on repeated viewings I feel BOtD is good, but far from brilliant. Kundun is good too. But I would definitely say Shutter Island is a better movie than each of those.

You know I can't trust you when it comes to Scorsese. I just don't believe that this even begins to rival Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, BotD, Goodfellas, ect in terms of visuals. And Leo is a focus group approved eunuch that lacks charisma and has zero screen presence. He's a generic, 73rd rate Alain Delon on his very best day.

I'll see the movie though.
Yea, when my favorite Marty film is almost without question After Hours...obviously my Scorsese taste is a bit strange. Sure, Shutter Island is much more Hollywood-ish than most of his movies, but I wouldn't say as blatantly as The Aviator or The Departed. As for the visuals, I definitely think it's better than most. Maybe not the best, but better than most.

Leo in Shutter Island surely isn't as great as many of the Scorsese-De Niro teamings (Taxi Driver, King of Comedy, Raging Bull, Mean Streets - Leo doesn't compare to De Niro there). However, it's undeniable that Leo has grown very much as an actor, even within his collaborations with Scorsese. In Gangs of New York, he didn't come close to the greatness of any of De Niro's performances under Scorsese. However, with Shutter Island, there's no question that he's much more impressive than De Niro, in say... New York New York, Cape Fear, Casino, and Goodfellas.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on February 21, 2010, 11:26:19 PM
You know the ending from the trailer but I still enjoyed the ride getting there.
I didn't care to see it but Sonny dragged me there and I'm glad I did.
Enjoyable change of pace for Marty (at least he hasn't tackled anything like this since that Cape Fear remake).


Leo doesn't bother me all that much, although he's far from an ideal leading man and it's difficult to take the Leo as Mark Ruffalo's boss, I mean... come on?

7/10


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Whalestoe on February 26, 2010, 12:41:06 PM
It wasn't great, but it wasn't a bad movie either. A lot of times, specifically the scenes with Teddy's wife (and some of the other flashbacks), verged on B-movie quality and were just laughable. Like Firecracker said, obvious ending is obvious, but it's still a fun ride. Good soundtrack. Visually great to look out. Made me badly want a cigarette.

6-7/10


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Groggy on February 26, 2010, 01:12:18 PM
Might go see this tomorrow if the weather clears up a bit.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: titoli on February 27, 2010, 10:53:59 PM
Well, on repeated viewings I feel BOtD is good, but far from brilliant. Kundun is good too. But I would definitely say Shutter Island is a better movie than each of those.
Yea, when my favorite Marty film is almost without question After Hours...obviously my Scorsese taste is a bit strange. Sure, Shutter Island is much more Hollywood-ish than most of his movies, but I wouldn't say as blatantly as The Aviator or The Departed. As for the visuals, I definitely think it's better than most. Maybe not the best, but better than most.

Leo in Shutter Island surely isn't as great as many of the Scorsese-De Niro teamings (Taxi Driver, King of Comedy, Raging Bull, Mean Streets - Leo doesn't compare to De Niro there). However, it's undeniable that Leo has grown very much as an actor, even within his collaborations with Scorsese. In Gangs of New York, he didn't come close to the greatness of any of De Niro's performances under Scorsese. However, with Shutter Island, there's no question that he's much more impressive than De Niro, in say... New York New York, Cape Fear, Casino, and Goodfellas.

Adding this to what I read at IMDB (even the reviews praising the effort) and Di Caprio's presence I can't help thinking this is a stinker on the same level as After Hours, Bringing Out The Dead, Aviator and what else.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Groggy on February 27, 2010, 11:12:20 PM
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Martin Scorsese's Shutter Island (2010) is probably the best film I've seen in theaters since Slumdog Millionaire (which admittedly isn't saying a whole lot). It's a mature thriller that mixes a straightforward mystery with a phantasmagoric horror film, creating an engrossing, disturbing cinematic experience. The twist (which surely everyone knows by now) isn't a problem per se - the way it's handled, however, is the film's one major flaw.

1954. A pair of US Marshals - hard-bitten, guilt-ridden Teddy Daniels (Leonardo DiCaprio) and affable Chuck Auele (Mark Ruffalo) - arrive on the titular island to visit Ashecliffe Mental Institution, a hospital for the criminally insane. Seems that a female prisoner (Emily Mortimer) broke out of jail, seemingly vanishing into thin air. Teddy immediately clashes with the too-nice Doctor Cawley (Ben Kingsley), who believes in engaging patients rather than putting them away - and who seems to be hiding something. The Marshals are trapped on the island by a storm, and Teddy comes to think that he and his partner are being set up - especially when word of a 67th inmate leaks out.

Shutter Island could easily have been a mess, but Scorsese deftly navigates the waters of its treacherous plot. The nightmarish dreams and are perfectly integrated into the main plot, a well-done paranoid police procedural. The movie plays up sinister expectations - the ex-Nazi Doctor (Max Von Sydow), mentions of HUAC and the Cold War - wonderfully, so we're almost let down when they're deflated. The contrast to the Holocaust is disturbing, moreso if we know about Operation Paper Clip and the MKULTRA program; the paranoid fantasies of the inmates have a palpable basis in reality. Teddy's apparent moral stand against these experiments, mixed with revenge, creates a wonderfully complex protagonist, and the film's palpable atmosphere of dread and quick pacing helps as well.

If there's a complaint about the film, it's the final 15 minutes or so. The twist itself is reasonable, if not overly original, and it does a fine job of frustrating plot expectations. However, after the secret is revealed, we're treated to an overlong explanatory scene, which seems like a retread of Hitchcock's expository excesses (Psycho, anyone?). Quite frankly, I would have preferred ambiguity to this deadeningly literal denouement. There may be more than meets the eye to the final scene, but the ship has already sailed by that point.

Scorsese eschews his usual quick-cutting, hard-hitting directoral style for a more measured approach. Scorsese does allow himself moments of showmanship - the gothic nightmare scenes, the storm sequence, the execution of Nazi guards at Dachau - but his direction is mostly focused, intense and gripping, allowing the images to speak for themselves. Robert Richardson's cinematography is alternately sweeping and claustrophobic, and there's a fine use of instrumental music, particularly tracks by John Adams, Gustav Mahler and John Cage.

Leonardo DiCaprio nails a difficult role. Shaky accent aside, DiCaprio is completely convincing as the haunted, hard-bitten Teddy, making his later scenes particularly poignant. Ben Kingsley (Gandhi) gives his best performance in years; it's nice to see him in something other than an Uwe Boll film. Max Von Sydow (Conan the Barbarian) shines in a small part. The supporting cast is excellent: Mark Ruffalo (Zodiac), Michelle Williams (Brokeback Mountain), Jackie Earle Haley (Watchmen), Patricia Clarkson (The Untouchables), John Carroll Lynch (Gran Torino), Ted Levine (Silence of the Lambs), Elias Koteas (The Curious Case of Benjamin Button).

I can't quite give Shutter Island a "Great Movies" rating because of the ending, but everything else about it is near-perfect.
http://nothingiswrittenfilm.blogspot.com/2010/02/shutter-island.html (http://nothingiswrittenfilm.blogspot.com/2010/02/shutter-island.html)


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: PowerRR on February 28, 2010, 08:49:53 AM
Hell ya Groggy! I agree the movie is nearly flawless up until the twist reveal. For the 'revealing flashback', while I agree that it'd be more interesting to not explain it so clearly and leave it a bit ambiguous, the scene was so well done that its excusable. I also don't like that the four names are anagrams of each other...I would've liked a more clever way to shower that they're all the same two people.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: dave jenkins on February 28, 2010, 11:37:38 AM
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Max Von Sydow (Conan the Barbarian)
Give. Me. A break.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Groggy on February 28, 2010, 02:01:16 PM
If I had reviewed any of Von Sydow's other movies for my blog I would have listed them instead. You know I'm a big self-promoter.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: moviesceleton on March 06, 2010, 01:32:39 AM
SPOILERS

8/10

I really enjoyed the movie but the anagram thing was sure stupid, not least because I had no idea Teddy is a nickname for Edward :P

A lot of what happens is unbelievable and even laughable but makes sense after the final revelation. For example, the nazi bits seemed to me like "good meaning but just too moralizing" but in the end they make sense as part of Teddy's hallucinations and guilt. But I'm not sure if the twist justifies the corniness of the scenes with the ghost (or what ever) of his wife...

Anyone else think this makes an interesting comparison with Lost Highway (which, BTW, is miles better than this)?


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: noodles_leone on March 06, 2010, 06:44:05 AM
Haha, you may have a point here...


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on April 02, 2012, 04:04:19 PM
A very much predictable (and what's worse - futile) waste of 2-and-something hours of your everyday life. It isn't crap since Marty directed it... which means it's crap, with all due respect. First of all, I ain't much of a Leo hater, but to call him miscast here would be the understatement of the decade. The visuals: very much sterile, there wasn't a single moment in the movie I felt what they were doing wasn't artificial. And the story/plot, with the ''67th inmate/patient/whatever'', were they fuck*ing kidding? - lol


5/10


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on April 02, 2012, 04:05:02 PM
Haha, you may have a point here...

Thanks.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: noodles_leone on April 03, 2012, 01:41:24 AM
A very much predictable (and what's worse - futile) waste of 2-and-something hours of your everyday life. It isn't crap since Marty directed it... which means it's crap, with all due respect. First of all, I ain't much of a Leo hater, but to call him miscast here would be the understatement of the decade. The visuals: very much sterile, there wasn't a single moment in the movie I felt what they were doing wasn't artificial. And the story/plot, with the ''67th inmate/patient/whatever'', were they fuck*ing kidding? - lol


5/10

Rewatch it, you'll give it 7/10.
THE good idea of the movie was to make it NOT like a twist ending film. Which means it actually works better the other times because, for the first time in a Scorsese movie, you'll actually care for the character.


Title: Re: Shutter Island (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on April 03, 2012, 03:23:27 AM
Rewatch it, you'll give it 7/10.
THE good idea of the movie was to make it NOT like a twist ending film. Which means it actually works better the other times because, for the first time in a Scorsese movie, you'll actually care for the character.

Not much of an idea since the character is cliched beyond comprehension: a tearjerker if I ever saw one.

Sorry, I just can't spare another 2 hours for this, not anytime soon anyway. As a matter of fact, I'm sorry I even watched it. I could have easily carry on without it on the shelves of my brain. Curiosity killed the cat indeed.