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Title: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: cigar joe on June 11, 2008, 06:42:54 AM
probably should be posted here

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DE0DC113DF932A35756C0A96F948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: dave jenkins on June 11, 2008, 08:52:04 AM
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Survivors of Mr. Leone, who had homes in Italy and France, include his wife, Carla, and three daughters, Raffaela, Francesca and Andrea.
WTF?


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: moviesceleton on June 11, 2008, 09:22:02 AM
This is sad news :'( RIP


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: titoli on June 12, 2008, 11:33:43 PM
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In a review of ''A Fistful of Dollars'' in 1967, Bosley Crowther, the film critic of The New York Times, assailed the film as ''egregiously synthetic but engrossingly morbid.''

To me Crowther's quoted words sound rather like a compliment. 


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: Groggy on June 13, 2008, 06:10:28 AM
It sounds like a reserved, back-handed complement at best to me. But then Crowther was a grumpy old fart who hated everything but Citizen Kane (and Cleopatra apparently), so maybe that's the ultimate praise coming from him.


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: titoli on June 13, 2008, 11:48:34 PM
Yes, but still he concedes to Leone the fact that he's a great storyteller, at the same time indirectly criticizing the melodramatic stuff that Hollywood was churning out at the time. Not many critics were ready to concede even that.   


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: Groggy on June 14, 2008, 05:50:56 AM
Yes, but still he concedes to Leone the fact that he's a great storyteller, at the same time indirectly criticizing the melodramatic stuff that Hollywood was churning out at the time. Not many critics were ready to concede even that.   

Actually, it wasn't exactly a secret that the Hollywood Western at least was on death's door at the time FOD came out. Pauline Kael wrote a length article about the Death of the Western shortly before FOD came out. It's good Crowther thought Leone might have been better than the washed-up hacks running the Western genre in the US at the time, but that's not exactly a unique observation by a critic.


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: titoli on June 14, 2008, 09:40:42 AM
Not unique, but rare.


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: Groggy on June 15, 2008, 04:29:04 PM
Rare that he praised Leone? Or rare that he was criticizing the "death" of the Western genre in the US?


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: titoli on June 15, 2008, 05:48:00 PM
That he praised Leone. I don't know about the second question.


Title: Re: Leone's NYT Obit:
Post by: Groggy on June 15, 2008, 07:04:31 PM
I'd say you have a case there, Titoli. O0