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Other/Miscellaneous => Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: shorty larsen on January 06, 2004, 12:43:05 PM

Title: Favourite Comic
Post by: shorty larsen on January 06, 2004, 12:43:05 PM
We have talking about Comics or Bande Dessinées, as we call them in France or Belgium.

If we agree that comics have an important influence on cinema, I would like to know what are your favourite comics or Bandes Dessinées, who are your favourite drawers and authors.

My favourite comic is Corto Maltese, by the italian Hugo Pratt.

I like very much Enki Bilal and a drawer from my country called Breccia.

I also like Franck Miller from the US, teh original drawer of Daredevil.

What about you?
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: Blueberry on January 07, 2004, 03:36:58 AM
Hey Shorty, good to see that others share an interest in comics or graphic novels or BDs or whatever we call them.

The ones you mentioned are great series. Frank Milller is not the original drawer or creator of Daredevil though. Stan "the man" Lee invented him, and I think Ditko was the artist. But Miller surely reinvented the Man without Fear, as he did Batman for DC in Dark Knight Returns in the 80's. He also did a piece that I think my fellow Leone fans will enjoy: SIN CITY. The first in the series is EXCELLENT, the rest isn't. The artwork is expressionist and dark, the plot terrifyingly cruel and merciless.

Other favourites:
Well Blueberry of course - in another topic on this site we have the honour of Colin Wilson (one of the artists) visiting.
The stories that Boucq has drawed.
Bilal, you said it, man!
Moebius (The Incal story)
Faboulous Furry Freak Brothers
Larson: The Far Side
Mazzuchelli and Miller: Batman, Daredevil
Manara: Indian Summer
Comès
Agent XIII (Faboluos agent story, series of 8 albums or so)
Hermanns series on Jeremiah (I dont know if its out in English)
Corto Maltese
One should never forget Tintin in Tibet

These are just a few of my favourite things...
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: cigar joe on January 07, 2004, 04:51:08 AM
R. Crumb, Moebius, Roger Corman, F. Shrier, Dave Sheridan, Spain Rodrigues, Gary Larson, but I'm dating myself now, lol.
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: Jupa on January 07, 2004, 05:10:38 AM
My all-time favourite comic is G.I.Joe.

Number two for me is Tex Willer.
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: COLONNA on January 07, 2004, 08:55:52 AM
Currently 1 :Munoz and Sampayo.  (best of the best)
 2: Hugo Pratt
3: Gir-Giraud-Moebius

And many people:

Some Frenchs: Petillon, Margerin,Reiser,Bretecher

...' and (all my childhood) the Belgians : Lucky Luke of course, , Tintin  , Buck Danny,Alix, Blake and Mortimer,Bob et Bobette, Pirlouit, Jo zette et Joko,

... and all the Italians: Tex Tone, Blek le Roc,, Captain Miki, Pepito,l'Ombre, Zembla...  

.... and all the sexual obsessed: Manara, Magnus,"La Bionda" ,

.... and English comics: Romeo, Andy Capp, Forsyte parody
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: KERMIT on January 07, 2004, 09:27:07 AM
hey shorty,
r.crumb
FFfreak bros.
gary larsen
       ;D
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: General Sibley on January 07, 2004, 11:31:47 AM
Kermit, I'm worried about you.  Who do you relate to best, Phineas or Fat Freddie?  Don't you dare tell me that Freewheelin' Franklin is your favorite!
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: shorty larsen on January 07, 2004, 12:51:54 PM
Frank Miller did an amazing work with "300", the story o Leonidas and the spartans in Termopilae.

I grew up reading the adventures of Alix too.

Asterix is a classic, but not one of my favourites.

My favourite author and drawer is Hugo Pratt, I think he's the best and his characters (Corto Maltese, Ernie Pike, Koinski) and stories are extremely interesting.

Of course, the "europeans" posters of this board know "Buck Danny", or "Les Passagers du vent".

I'm not an expert on japanese mangas, but they're extremely important too, remember "Kill Bill"?
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: shorty larsen on January 07, 2004, 01:18:32 PM
Another "western" comic: MacCoy.

Anyone knows it?
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: The Smoker on January 07, 2004, 01:51:07 PM
'Lone Wolf and Cub' By Kazuo Koike & Goseki Kojima. All 28 volumes of it. Wonderful stuff

Can't go wrong with a bit of Frank Miller either.  ;)


(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0224062107.02.IN04.LZZZZZZZ)

(http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/0224062107.02.TZZZZZZZ) 'Jimmy Corrigan Smartest Kid in the World' by Chris Ware. was the last Graphic Novel i read.
Can't recomended it enough.
Dark humour at its best.
ive bought 2 copies for other people already.


P.S. Tintin, Asterix & 2000AD all the time as a kid,
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: shorty larsen on January 07, 2004, 02:42:16 PM
Has anyone seen japanese manga Metropolis by Tarô Rin?
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: cigar joe on January 07, 2004, 04:40:48 PM
Quote
hey shorty,
r.crumb
FFfreak bros.
gary larsen

We should change this to favorite "Comix"

I liked "Fat Freddies Cat" and "Wonder Warthog".

And don't forget "the Airtight Garage of Jerry Cornelius", "Trashman", "Moondog", "Skull", "Zapp", and "Rowlf"
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: KERMIT on January 07, 2004, 08:36:24 PM
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Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: COLONNA on January 08, 2004, 12:19:09 AM
coincidence,I watch TV this morning: GIR/GIRAUD/MOEBIUS was spoking about the Blueberry Film project.
He regretted that one of his ideas ,( employ two old french rock singers Eddy Mitchell and Johnny Hallyday as gun-fighter), was not accepted.
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: Il Buono on January 09, 2004, 02:58:49 AM
I like:

Franquin
Boucq
Gary Larson
...

and series:
Lucky Luke, Asterix, Soda (does anyone know this?)
Calvin and Hobbes
Blacksad

... and sure I'm forgetting many...
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: Blueberry on January 09, 2004, 04:54:19 AM
It seems that a lot of people interested in Leone also dedicate themselves to other healthy interests, such as comix. Which, when you think about it, isn't very strange since Leone's films are extremely "graphic novel-like".

The trio ending in GBU for instance, with its fast cutting and different angles.

Another graphic moment is in OUATIW, when Frank's dusters appear from the shrubbery at the McBains.

And of course the "Bronson-eyes" extreme close-up in the duel.


Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: Austin on January 09, 2004, 06:28:09 AM
The Watchmen is my favourite graphic novel (DC Comics I think).
Asterix is and always has been my favourite comic strip hero.
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: COLONNA on January 20, 2004, 02:38:06 AM
News say that Steven Spielberg will begin to direct a film about TINTIN.
He prepares in fact a trilogy.

( Steven often declared that Indiana was a substitute for TINTIN)....

(Philippe de Broca employed also a substitute with JP Belmondo in "The Man from Rio"  and " Adventures (tribulations , is it english?) of a Chinese in China"  )
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: Blueberry on January 20, 2004, 03:24:16 AM
Tintin et moi!! - Check out this website for a brand new sensational documentary on Hergé, the excentric creator of the character:

http://www.dfi.dk/sitemod/moduler/index_english.asp?pid=17900

It's in the cinamas here now, and I can't wait...
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: The Hunchback on January 20, 2004, 09:58:07 PM
I agree with Austin, Watchmen is also my favorite graphic novel.  V for Vendetta is probably my second fave.

Some other favorites are:
GrimJack
Judge Dredd/2000AD
The Flaming Carrot and anything by Bob Burden
Grendel
Title: Re:Favourite Comic
Post by: shorty larsen on January 22, 2004, 01:39:28 PM
I checked it. There is a rumor, indeed, that Spielberg is interested in doing a Tintin trilogy.
Title: Re: Sin City
Post by: The Smoker on January 22, 2005, 10:52:50 AM
Old thread here:

There has been rumours of a movie off and on, since the mid 90s of frank Miller's Sin City.
 
(http://hem.passagen.se/fm4/marshine.jpg)

Ive always been skeptical if it would work. The simple noir mono stylized feel wouldnt pass over very well in film. Well
A friend sent me a link to this trailer earlier today.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/miramax/sin_city.html

(http://www.agalaxia.com.br/imagens/sin_city_marv.jpg)

I was quite surprised, its true to the school. Looks like they have used the Graphic Novels virtually as a storyboard.
Oh and its been actually co Directed by Robert Rodriguez & Frank Miller.

With Hollywood running out of ideas, Its been a smash and grab with Comic book movies at the moment. But there has been a trust in original work more. Aspose to using the name as marketing or concept.
I remember train wreck that was Judge Dredd too well.  ::)

Lets hope the producers don't step in at the last minute and fluff it.


So whats next? a Movie adaption of 300, Millers' Spartan 'Hot Gates' epic. how fine would that be.. what ever it turns out like, it would wipe the floor with Troy  ;)
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: Le Bon on January 23, 2005, 01:32:34 PM
I was a Marvel Comics fan so my favourite artists would be: John Buscema and Barry Smith... he did the art for the first Conan issues. I also like Frank Frazzeta and i loved Tintin as well.
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: Belkin on January 23, 2005, 01:55:08 PM
You ain't lived untill you get your mits on a copy of this classic:

Blueberry(http://)

By Jean-Michel Charlier and Jean (Moebius) Giraud. Great artwork and powerful, realistic storytelling avoid the usual western cliches. This is by far the best, most authentic Western ever done in comics. These are real page-turners, starring the unorthodox Lieutenant Blueberry and a delightful variety of characters. Published in 1989 by Marvel/Epic Comics. Both volumes listed below are out-of-print, so order while you can.
Available are:
Volume 2 Ballad for a Coffin
Volume 3 Angel Face
Volumes are 8½x11, full color, 96 pages, color squarebound paperback. ..... (no discount)...$14.95 each
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: Belkin on January 23, 2005, 01:57:43 PM
PS. They can be found on following site:

http://www.kenpiercebooks.com/cowboys.htm
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: Blueberry on January 24, 2005, 02:13:19 AM
(http://ivor.9online.fr/series/blueberry/blueberry.jpg)

(http://ivor.9online.fr/series/blueberry/blubangelface.gif)

Our man as he looks when he's in the outback, and as he looks when playing poker in the city.
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: Bill Carson on January 24, 2005, 09:28:18 AM
hola amigos!   more KUROSAWA than LEONE, my favourite comic and comic character is USAGI YOJIMBO. Magic.
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: Bill Carson on January 24, 2005, 09:35:12 AM
I know of BLUEBERRY and have always wanted to read some of it - any suggestions on Graphic novels / tpbs on the character with which I could start? 
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: Blueberry on January 27, 2005, 02:05:26 AM
Just start from the beginning and move on, you'll see an incredible development of the art and the characters and the storylines.

My favourites are hard to tell, but I think they are these two, which is one story:

(http://ivor.9online.fr/series/blueberry/albums/laminedelallemandperdu.jpg)

In English something like: The Mad German's Goldmine

and

(http://ivor.9online.fr/series/blueberry/albums/lespectreauxballesdor.jpg)

In English something like: The Ghost with the Golden Bullets

they are something like nr. 11 and 12 chronologically - the series started in 65 and has gotten better and better.

Many times have I thought of a Blueberry movie based on these two albums, and when they finally did it, they went and fuc*** up the story and made it into one mediocre director's ego-trip. It sucks, and has nothing to do with the Blueberry -feel, which, in my opinion, is quite "spaghettisque", especially from 1970 and on.

Sad but true.
Title: Re: Favourite Comic
Post by: shorty larsen on May 15, 2005, 01:53:12 PM
Yeah, I saw Sin City trailer and I have a good feeling abour the movie. Frank Miller himself was assistant to Rodriguez.

Saw recently two excelent anime: a corean one, "Wonderful days" and a japanese one, "Steamboy" from "Akira"'s author.