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Title: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: titoli on November 19, 2008, 04:10:52 PM
Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc7wWOmEGGY

Not the first western, but the first with a composite action (and there are other firsts). The final sequence is still modern as hell (I've seen it in an italian movie of the '90's).


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: The Firecracker on November 19, 2008, 04:19:42 PM


I love it to.
But not the first western?
I always understood this to be the first.
What is the other?


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: titoli on November 19, 2008, 04:50:34 PM
The others. Dozens of them. I am reading Garfield's Western Films and he names many before this. F.e. even Buffalo Bill made two out of his WW Show, in 1894 and 1898. Even before GTR was released there were a Kit Carson and The Pioneers (this had a Searchers-like plot). GTR though (I am quoting from Garfield) "was one of the first American motion pictures to arrange a plotted dramatic story into edited, intercut consecutive scenes..."


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: The Firecracker on November 19, 2008, 04:51:23 PM
The others. Dozens of them. I am reading Garfield's Western Films and he names many before this. F.e. even Buffalo Bill made two out of his WW Show, in 1894 and 1898. Even before GTR was released there were a Kit Carson and The Pioneers (this had a Searchers-like plot). GTR though (I am quoting from Garfield) "was one of the first American motion pictures to arrange a plotted dramatic story into edited, intercut consecutive scenes..."

Are any of these films available to view?


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: titoli on November 19, 2008, 05:07:27 PM
No idea. You don't own any book on western movies?
Anyway, Garfield names also a BB's Indian Wars (1918) which was shelved soon after release because it presented exploited Indians fighting against "treaty-busting" blue soldiers. No copies apparently have survived (he was writing 25 years ago, though). But that would be a movie to watch.


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: The Firecracker on November 19, 2008, 05:14:59 PM
No idea. You don't own any book on western movies?



Books on the actual west and too some extent (since Mitchum worked on many westerns) Those Ornery Mitchum boys which goes into great detail of the Mitchum's career.

I aslo have several Leone books and that shit Weisser book.

Here is a video about some pictures I'd like to see...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0klfBXd5Jc


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: titoli on November 19, 2008, 06:06:33 PM
No, I want to see this first:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH2iB5UF3_I


See if you can find the movie to be seen on line.


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: cigar joe on November 19, 2008, 06:31:17 PM
Its out on DVD I rented it not too long ago.

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=7645.msg108268#msg108268


Title: Re: The Great Train Robbery (1903)
Post by: titoli on November 19, 2008, 07:54:55 PM
That's the kind of uncopyrighted stuff which ought to be found on-line for free.