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Title: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 24, 2008, 01:06:52 AM
I think Josh Brolin is an inspired choice for the character of JH.
 O0
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1075747/

P.S. somebody move this to the western section please.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 24, 2008, 03:42:05 PM
Jonah Hex is Josey Wales before Josey Wales. This could be interesting.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 24, 2008, 03:45:18 PM
This could be interesting.

So long as they stick with the feel of the original comics.
I really don't want JH tangeling with supernatural beings like in some of the newer stuff.

Stick with the whole "unluckiest guy in the west finds himself in odd but believable situations" and everything should be fine. Oh... and give it an R rating!


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 24, 2008, 03:52:51 PM
Well, if they stay true to the original comics, he's gonna get wounded a lot of times during the movie. Don't know how the audience will respond to that.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 24, 2008, 03:54:35 PM
Hah, ''unluckiest guy in the west'', that's a good description of Jonah Hex.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 24, 2008, 03:54:59 PM
Well, if they stay true to the original comics, he's gonna get wounded a lot of times during the movie. Don't know how the audience will respond to that.

I hope they leave the whole scarring of his face to be shown in flashback.
His origins aren't exactly the most exciting part of the series.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 24, 2008, 03:56:40 PM
What was it, ''a lion ate his face while he was saving the chief'' ?

I'd have to read those comics again.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 24, 2008, 03:57:21 PM
But I agree, or even better - don't even show it.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 24, 2008, 03:58:08 PM
What was it, ''a lion ate his face while he was saving the chief'' ?

The Indians he grew up with did it to him after he killed one of the Chief's sons in self defense.

They used a hot poker stick I think.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 24, 2008, 04:02:34 PM
Aha, right, I forgot all about that... Why the heck did I think a lion ate his face? (Nevermind.)

I'm now thinking of a classic ''in search for a treasure'' story.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 24, 2008, 04:06:05 PM
I'm now thinking of a classic ''in search for a treasure'' story.

So long as it doesn't resemble the script that was being kicked around town it's fine with me.



Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 24, 2008, 04:11:00 PM
It will be interesting because in any case they have to make up a good villain, that is completely new to the audience. I don't recall him having a decent enemy throughout the (comic book) series.

They actually have very little to use besides his character, which might be a good thing.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 24, 2008, 04:15:33 PM
It will be interesting because in any case they have to make up a good villain, that is completely new to the audience. I don't recall him having a decent enemy throughout the (comic book) series.

They actually have very little to use besides his character, which might be a good thing.

All of the comics I've read he kills the villains off at the end but there is one recurring baddie named El Papagayo (when Sonny comes by I'll ask her to take a photo of the comic where he appears in so I can show you).
Mexican bandit leader with a parrot on his shoulder.
While I wouldn't want him to be the main villains he could be a good side villain.

I hope they keep Bat Lash out of the whole movie and lets pray a love interest shows up to get killed off.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2009, 08:41:33 PM
(when Sonny comes by I'll ask her to take a photo of the comic where he appears in so I can show you).
As promised...


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/marianac87/HPIM5717.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g65/marianac87/HPIM5724.jpg)

Papagayo should be treated like a secondary Bond villain.
Have a pre-credit sequence where P. puts Hex in Mortal danger then have him disappear until the final minutes (just after the climax) where Jonah can give him some good punishment.
Since the comics were a throwback to western serials (and always left Hex in danger by the last page) the movie should have a cliff hanger ending that still works as a decent closing.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 27, 2009, 11:48:53 AM
Thanks FC! O0

That's number 9 of the original series right? I'm definitely gonna have to read some JH comics before I watch the movie, the bad things is that there is so much of them. The three mini-series from the 90s were by far better than V1 and V2.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 27, 2009, 11:53:40 AM
That bastard Papagayo looks ridiculous, like a ''Mexican style Long John rip-off''. I remember him vaguely.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 27, 2009, 06:23:55 PM
That's number 9 of the original series right?

Correct.

Papagayo does resemble a campy pirate* but I don't think he should be ignored for the movie. Just don't make him the main villain.


* His appearence can be updated to a more cool or menacing look.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on February 07, 2009, 04:20:57 PM
Well, maybe it could work that way.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 04, 2009, 10:17:39 PM
They're already fuckin' it up with supernatural crap...

http://movies.yahoo.com/news/movies.reuters.com/megan-fox-lines-up-comicbook-movies-reuters


Quentin Turnbull (another recurring villain I forgot to mention) is not a voodoo practitioner.

Check out this Batman cartoon that features Jonah Hex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnT_Z2XZ5q4

Sharp eyes will catch that the train station's name is "Sergio". ::)


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on March 05, 2009, 06:57:35 AM
You understand that if they sign Megan Fox they can fill this movie with pretty much anything they can come up with, just as long she's (half)naked, which won't be hard for her.



Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 23, 2009, 11:22:37 AM
I have the script. If anybody is remotely interested just write your email address on here , or send me a PM , and I'll send you a copy.

I'm not certain which version I have. There is the original "R rated" version and the new watered down "pg-13" version.
I haven't gotten around to reading it yet.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 23, 2009, 02:26:53 PM
I have the script. If anybody is remotely interested just write your email address on here , or send me a PM , and I'll send you a copy.

Where'd you get it from?


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 27, 2009, 09:15:27 PM
Where'd you get it from?


IMDB. Would you like it?


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 27, 2009, 09:54:58 PM
Pics of Megan Fox on set...

http://www.megansafox.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=191


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: noodles_leone on April 27, 2009, 10:06:55 PM
haha looks like you next signature...


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 28, 2009, 04:35:40 PM
Yeah, I defo have the R version...

 Hex hands over a 3 dead bounties tied to his horse to a local sheriff and whips out a severed head of the fourth bounty. He proclaims "Motherfucker was too fat for my horse".

Shortly after he whips out dual gatling guns and fires upon a crooked Sheriff, Mayor and deputies. They get severed in half by the bullets.

And all this in the first 4 pages!

None of this really matters all that much though since we won't see any of it on screen. It's getting the PG-13 treatment due to the utter failure that was WATCHMEN.
The director isn't happy about this.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on June 19, 2009, 03:47:50 PM
Brolin in Hex costume and make-up

(http://laineygossip.com/pics/josh%20jonah%202%2001jun09.JPG)

More pics here... (ignore the article that goes with it).

http://laineygossip.com/Josh_Brolin_and_Diane_Lane_enjoy_romantic_stroll_after_Josh_accused_of_cheating_.aspx?CatID=0&CelID=0



I'm not happy about the scar.
It's just like Hollywood to tone down the gore make up on the leads face (something Leone didn't pull any punches on with Clint's desert worn mug in GBU).
Other than that I'm totally cool with his appearence, although I think he should keep the Confederate jacket on as much as possible. He looks cooler in it.




Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: cigar joe on June 19, 2009, 08:30:49 PM
looks cool.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: dave jenkins on May 02, 2010, 06:41:34 PM
http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/04/jonah_hex_trailer_it_exists_fi.html

Looks pretty good to me.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: moviesceleton on May 03, 2010, 01:24:12 AM
Looks like fun. O0


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: cigar joe on May 04, 2010, 03:14:45 PM
yea it does  O0 O0 O0


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on May 04, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
WTH was that, a dynamite-crossbow?


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on July 29, 2010, 12:28:49 PM
Jonah Hex - 4/10. A disfigured bounty hunter with preternatural skills (he can converse with dead people) wanders into what amounts to an episode of The Wild Wild West. There's not an ounce of originality in this, but at times it shows a certain flair. The Neveldine/Taylor script keeps things moving along, but at 81 minutes you might question whether you're getting enough for your $11.25. I don't really know the comic book, but I'm guessing this adaptation has not served its source material all that well. Anyway, at no time during the movie did I get the feeling that a franchise was being launched.

 ::)


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 06, 2010, 01:25:34 PM
FC, did you check this in the meantime or not? It is getting a shameful (probably deserved too) 4.6/10 on IMDb. I saw a DVD of some sort somewhere, did not have the courage to actually get it, though. I'm still tempted, read e few comics again since when the move was announced.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 07, 2010, 12:47:07 AM
FC, did you check this in the meantime or not? It is getting a shameful (probably deserved too) 4.6/10 on IMDb. I saw a DVD of some sort somewhere, did not have the courage to actually get it, though. I'm still tempted, read e few comics again since when the move was announced.


It isn't the worst of the year (the repugnant Nightmare On Elm Street remake comes to mind) but it isn't good and it is a great disservice to the source material.
A shame really, the Neveldine and Taylor sript was a good one (minus the fact that it loses its way in the climax).
The only remaining scenes from that screenplay are an early gunfight and the circus tent scene but each of those sections have been watered down to nothing.
The gory violence and the delightfully raunchy dialogue exchanges are gone from them, as is any sense of threat to Hex.

Josh Brolin is okay in it.

Megan Fox is actually pretty decent in her initial scene but she falls into familiar territory (void of feelings) straight afterwards and was completely unnecessary.


Surprisingly one of the few things that worked was the addition of Hex being able to talk to the dead.
I was prepared to hate the gimmick but it won me over.

My advice? skip it and get the new comic that coincided with the film's release.
JONAH HEX: NO WAY BACK is what the movie should have been like.

In it, Jonah goes searching for his mother who he learns has a bounty on her head and eventually faces El Papagayo for the very last time.
Dark, violent, girtty and at times touching.

In the mean time... here is a two part Jonah Hex animated short.
I don't like the way they animated Jonah's face (looks too pretty) but like JONAH HEX: NO WAY BACK is an excellent piece of work that respects the franchise.

PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQHjlItfDU

PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5FYn9hfvIU


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 07, 2010, 07:44:20 AM

It isn't the worst of the year (the repugnant Nightmare On Elm Street remake comes to mind) but it isn't good and it is a great disservice to the source material.
A shame really, the Neveldine and Taylor sript was a good one (minus the fact that it loses its way in the climax).
The only remaining scenes from that screenplay are an early gunfight and the circus tent scene but each of those sections have been watered down to nothing.
The gory violence and the delightfully raunchy dialogue exchanges are gone from them, as is any sense of threat to Hex.

Josh Brolin is okay in it.

Megan Fox is actually pretty decent in her initial scene but she falls into familiar territory (void of feelings) straight afterwards and was completely unnecessary.


Surprisingly one of the few things that worked was the addition of Hex being able to talk to the dead.
I was prepared to hate the gimmick but it won me over.

My advice? skip it and get the new comic that coincided with the film's release.
JONAH HEX: NO WAY BACK is what the movie should have been like.

In it, Jonah goes searching for his mother who he learns has a bounty on her head and eventually faces El Papagayo for the very last time.
Dark, violent, girtty and at times touching.

In the mean time... here is a two part Jonah Hex animated short.
I don't like the way they animated Jonah's face (looks too pretty) but like JONAH HEX: NO WAY BACK is an excellent piece of work that respects the franchise.

PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQHjlItfDU

PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5FYn9hfvIU


Thanks very much for the comprehensive overview. O0 I'll wait for a DVD to wonder my wait, in order not to pay for it, as usual.

Megan Fox is in it, as I suspect, for the same reason romances were often intruded into classic Ws back in the days: to get a few extra bucks on the side, but at least back in the days they used to do it with some suavity. Not too much, but at least some.

Now Josh Brolin I always fancied, for some subconscious reason, and in this he looks good with the make-up on, from what I have seen, but I really wouldn't have minded someone more on the lean-n-mean note. Really tall and really boney, vulture-like

I didn't even know about those new comics! Drawn by Tony DeZuniga himself?! I'll definitely check them out the first chance I get. I've read some of the first numbers of the ongoing series, Jordi Bernet drew some: simple but entertaining stories, without false pretenses. At this point I couldn't compare them with the original series, it's been like 2 years since I read them.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Groggy on December 07, 2010, 09:24:44 AM
I'm glad someone (besides DJ) has seen it. That means I don't have to. O0


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 07, 2010, 01:21:22 PM
I know Jenkins is the one here that watches (and more often than not enjoys) crappy new movies, so we don't have to, but a sense of individuality really wouldn't hurt you, Groggy. You need to get out of the Matrix.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Groggy on December 07, 2010, 03:07:10 PM
Has Jenkins seen Leprechaun in the Hood three times?


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: dave jenkins on December 08, 2010, 06:13:27 AM
I know Jenkins is the one here that watches (and more often than not enjoys) crappy new movies, so we don't have to, but a sense of individuality really wouldn't hurt you, Groggy. You need to get out of the Matrix.
LOL.

Well, not all the new movies are crappy, I get lucky sometimes.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Groggy on December 08, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
I plan to see 127 Hours this weekend. I don't think Jinkies has reviewed that one yet.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 09, 2010, 01:10:57 AM


PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQHjlItfDU

PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5FYn9hfvIU

^
I urge you to watch this Dust Devil


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 09, 2010, 02:12:19 PM
^
I urge you to watch this Dust Devil

Sorry, I overlooked it. I'll watch it tomorrow, can't find a free minute now.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: T.H. on December 10, 2010, 04:29:26 PM
PART 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qQHjlItfDU

PART 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5FYn9hfvIU

I skimmed through those vids and it's look fantastic. I'll definitely watch it because of the stunning visuals - it's a shame that lollywood has abandoned the use of color altogether.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 10, 2010, 06:12:16 PM
I skimmed through those vids and it's look fantastic. I'll definitely watch it because of the stunning visuals - it's a shame that lollywood has abandoned the use of color altogether.

Let us know what you think.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 11, 2010, 02:18:47 AM
Indeed, it's pretty fuckin' good for a short and animated video. Maybe yeah, they could have made him somewhat uglier.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 11, 2010, 02:22:16 AM
And well, well, isn't that Linda Hamilton.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 12, 2010, 09:31:57 PM
And well, well, isn't that Linda Hamilton.

yep.


Title: Re: Jonah Hex (2010)
Post by: Dust Devil on June 05, 2011, 05:50:10 AM
Yeah, this is pretty bad. They didn't transfer much of the original character on screen, unfortunately, though Brolin is rather good here. Despite showing flashes of entertainment, the script is overall stuff for simpletons. Not much originality, the story and characters seem unfinished on the top of that. Was mighty interesting to see the usually stable John Malkovich giving such an uninspired and struggling performance. Maybe he spent too much time with Megan Fox...

Anyway, why am I writing so much about this nonsense?

...


(around a) 3/10