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Title: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: titoli on January 04, 2009, 04:17:29 PM
First Wayne production, it has little to warrant a vision, but 2 or 3 elements rescue it from anonimity. Gail Russell looks like a woman (yeah, Jenkins) and the actor playing the sheriff delivers a performance reminding me of Meurisse in Deuxiéme Souffle.  Some stunts, particularly the one of the plunge into the river by Canutt are impressive. But the pace is unbearably slow, the action is sparse (even the final duel, which could have been much better handled, is wasted by lack of courage. But there's a great moment, coming unexpectedly and well-handled, when Wayne is suddenly terrified by the idea of settling down and goes back to his badder ways, the moment when he is presented a Bible which, unexpectedly again for a movie made in the '40's, is then used by his pard as a quotation book for grisly deaths. Watch it, if you have the patience of going through 85' of molasses. 


Title: Re: The Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: dave jenkins on January 04, 2009, 05:53:28 PM
Gail Russell looks like a woman (yeah, Jenkins)
It's all in her eyes. That gal's got gaze, man.


Title: Re: The Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: Groggy on January 04, 2009, 06:05:14 PM
It's all in her eyes. That gal's got gaze, man.

Again with the gaze, Jenkins.


Title: Re: The Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: titoli on January 04, 2009, 06:48:37 PM
It's all in her eyes. That gal's got gaze, man.

You're on a wrong track on this as you were yesterday on Barbara Lawrence's book. What makes the difference is she is less puffy on this

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3897399296/nm0751149

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm3897399296/nm0751149

than she was in Seven Men From Now (and 10 years younger) and that publicity still I posted at the time. She is also probably less intoxicated (don't know from what, though: alcohol, sedatives?) or whatever it was that reduced to what she looks in the later movie. Her eyes do little for me in this, though they are more alive than later. it is more her oval, her delicate features of her face, her general air of youthfulness.   


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: dave jenkins on January 04, 2009, 08:02:40 PM
Yeah, she was a boozer. It took her looks, her health, her life.


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 19, 2009, 02:29:49 PM
Hulu's got it: http://www.hulu.com/watch/63052/angel-and-the-badman


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 28, 2013, 04:38:07 PM
Savant has nice things to say about the new Blu: http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s4255bad.html


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 03, 2014, 10:17:37 PM
I just saw this movie on TCM.... simple story, not an interesting story, a story that's probably been done a bunch of times, a bunch of thees and thous, I was all set to roll my eyes and laugh it off.... and yet.... and yet...... the cast makes this work. At first I enjoyed myself over how silly it seemed, but ultimately, I actually enjoyed myself, period. I can't believe it, but I'm giving this baby a 7/10  :)

btw, doesn't Wayne looks pretty skinny and weak here?


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 04, 2014, 10:39:21 AM
I just saw this movie on TCM.... simple story, not an interesting story, a story that's probably been done a bunch of times, a bunch of thees and thous, I was all set to roll my eyes and laugh it off.... and yet.... and yet...... the cast makes this work. At first I enjoyed myself over how silly it seemed, but ultimately, I actually enjoyed myself, period. I can't believe it, but I'm giving this baby a 7/10  :)

btw, doesn't Wayne looks pretty skinny and weak here?
As opposed to fat and weak?

I agree about the cast, but especially Gail Russell, who I find, especially at this period, pretty mesmerizing. Evidently the Duke felt the same way.

Btw, you're showing your essential religious bigotry by making fun of characters using "thees" and "thous." The Society of Friends are sincere in their application of such terms to communicate intimacy (or they were; I'm not sure they still use them today). An interesting film that respects the convention and has some good-natured fun with it can be found in the Karloff film, Bedlam.


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 04, 2014, 12:57:50 PM
Its not about making fun of the thees and thous; it's about whether that sort of thing is interesting to me as a movie viewer.
Lotsa serious/solemn things are not interesting to watch in a movie.


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 04, 2014, 01:01:48 PM
Yes, Gail Russell is lovely.
(if you believe Michael Munn's biography), Wayne always claimed he was just Russell's friend, I think he was tryin to help her out, it's well-known that she had a paralyzing shyness and was never cut out to be a movie star, Wayne said lotsa Hollywood peeps took advantage of her on the casting couch, but somehow I don't think I buy Wayne's story about just being friends.
Btw, this movie has a good line, about the gunfighter/ladies man: "He's closed the eyes of many a man and opened the eyes of many a woman." :D





Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 04, 2014, 04:31:33 PM
"He's closed the eyes of many a man and opened the eyes of many a woman." :D
Yup, I wouldn't mind being able to claim that as my own.  O0


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: titoli on April 05, 2014, 04:13:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyiirU6npQ0


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 05, 2014, 05:41:10 PM
Thanks. This one, though, doesn't have a braying jackass at the beginning: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Apvd90YswQ


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 11, 2014, 02:58:44 AM
TCM will be showing Angel and the Badman today, Friday 4/11/14, at 8:15 AM EST
http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.html?tz=EST&sdate=2014-04-11


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: stanton on April 11, 2014, 05:26:15 AM
After a stormy start the film reposes mostly on beaten paths. 5/10


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 11, 2014, 06:47:27 AM
It's true that there is nothing new about the story (I even mentioned today in the RTLMYS thread that I just saw a 1934 movie called HIDE-OUT that is basically the same story, just switch gunslinger taken in by pioneer Quaker family with gangster taken in by Connecticut farm family, and switch John Wayne/Gail Russell with Robert Montgomery/Maureen O'Sullivan.) But as has been evidenced again and again, the right cast can take any story - even one that seems uninteresting/simple/cliched/predictable or whatever other term you can think of - and make it enjoyable to watch.


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: stanton on April 11, 2014, 11:59:30 AM
I'm more interested in directing than in the cast.
But Angel and the Badman hasn't a great cast either. Wayne was a forgettable actor in these years. And if the characters are boring the actors won't change this. The best westerns of these "lost years" of Wayne between Stagecoach and Fort Apache are The Spoilers and Tall in the Saddle. And Dark Command.


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 25, 2014, 03:47:43 AM
ANGEL AND THE BADMAN will be playing on TCM today, Friday, at noon EST


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 29, 2014, 03:28:02 PM
I'm more interested in directing than in the cast.
But Angel and the Badman hasn't a great cast either. Wayne was a forgettable actor in these years. And if the characters are boring the actors won't change this. The best westerns of these "lost years" of Wayne between Stagecoach and Fort Apache are The Spoilers and Tall in the Saddle. And Dark Command.

I just saw Tall in the Saddle (thanks for the recommendation  ;) ) I liked that one. Started watching The Spoilers but shut it off after not too long, didn't interest me, another annoying love triangle between a good girl and a bad girl, blah blah blah. Maybe I'd have been wrong, but I didn't wanna spend an hour-and-a-half finding out.


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: stanton on April 29, 2014, 04:30:42 PM
You need not to wait 90 min to find out. It is more or less clear from the first minute on, but thankfully without being boring. But apart from that Scott enjoys his baddie role, the film has some good action, and the characters are effectively enough fleshed out for this kind of film, which can't be hurt by spoilers. 6/10


Title: Re: Angel and the Badman (1946)
Post by: Spikeopath on February 09, 2017, 03:34:46 PM
What about the Bible? You can't throw it away, that would be bad luck.

Angel and the Badman is written and directed by James Edward Grant. It stars John Wayne, Gail Russell, Harry Carey, Bruce Cabot, Irene Rich, Lee Dixon and Stephen Grant. Music is by Richard Hageman and cinematography by Archie J. Stout.

Quirt Evans (Wayne), a notorious gunman is hurt and on the run. Taken in by The Worth's, a Quaker family, Quirt forms a "special" bond with daughter Penelope (Russell). With the law and other badmen on his tail, will Quirt change his ways before it's too late?

John Wayne's first film as a producer and star is also his most romantic. That's not to say it lacks action or Wayne's fine tuning of his macho image is halted, because that's not the case, but this carries a dreamy like old fashioned value that has helped the film endear over the years. It's a touch too slow at times for its own good and runs for ten minutes longer than was needed, things that no doubt stunted its financial growth at the 1947 box office, but there is much to enjoy here.

Technical values are high, from Stout's photography that beautifully realises locations in Sedona, Arizona (Monument Valley standing out, naturally!), to cast performances from Carey, Wayne and the gorgeous Miss Russell (chemistry unbound between the three actors), film never lacks for quality. Memorable scenes are plenty, such as The Duke sitting in a chair facing down three henchmen led by Cabot's Laredo Stevens; his gun empty, a free-for-all punch up in a saloon, and some very tender moments between Wayne and Russell. While narratively there's the deft pitching of Quaker values into a wild west setting.

A lovely film which also manages to pump the adrenaline as well. 7.5/10

DVD version viewed was Region 2 taken out of the John Wayne Out West 6 film Box Set. A good quality black and white print.