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Title: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 12, 2009, 11:36:29 PM
Finished watching this for the first time in its entirety (there wasn't anything else on I swear!  :-[ )
Not nearly as bad as the masses claimed it to be.
I thought the first 40 minutes were very enjoyable.
An early party scene is one of the highlights of the film.

Two major things have changed since the series ended.
The main protagonist has gone through a race switch and his arch nemesis (Loveless) is no longer a midget.
Smith was obviously mis-cast. His type of humor doesn't fit this kind of movie.
And changing James West's race only added insult to injury.
The guy who plays Gordon is suitable.
Salma Hayek, as usual, is very pleasing to the eye but she can't act her way out of a paper bag.

There are some very embarassing moments (a confederate who knows kung-fu and Smith in drag) but overall it was  enjoyable summer blockbuster trash.


5/10

(http://images.allposters.com/images/54/039_37985.jpg)


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 13, 2009, 12:11:11 AM
This was one of the absolute worst pieces of cinematic shit ever to be excreted from Hollywood's Hershey Highway. I wanted to walk out of this garbage but I was with a group of people that likewise hated this horrible mess of a movie. If there was a scale for mind numbingly atrocious, over-budgeted misfires, this soulless mess of a movie version of one of the best television programs ever would be at the top of the shit heap.

At no one time does this photographic equivalent to passing kidney stones come even remotely close to capturing the spirit, nor fun of its 'James Bond in the Old West' source material. Ever since this 'bowel movement in pictures' hit the screen, I've had a complete dislike for Will Smith. He couldn't praise the movie enough before it came out, then when it failed, he made excuses.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 13, 2009, 12:48:04 AM


At no one time does this photographic equivalent to passing kidney stones come even remotely close to capturing the spirit, nor fun of its 'James Bond in the Old West' source material.


I never expected it to.



Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 13, 2009, 12:53:52 AM

I never expected it to.



Last I remember you've not seen any of the original shows so there would be nothing for you to compare it to. Robert Conrad's acceptance speech for this movies Razzie Award was poetic justice as he was vehemently against the film especially after the casting of Smith as James West.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 13, 2009, 12:59:25 AM
Last I remember you've not seen any of the original shows so there would be nothing for you to compare it to.


I've caught up with enough episodes on youtube to know the series was miles above this.

My fav episode so far is one in which Jim is given an LSD type of drug by Loveless.
The only episodes I've seen are from the first season although I did see one episode in color many years ago on television (If I recall correctly, an episode in which a villain wants to create a giant tidal wave to destroy something or other).



Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 13, 2009, 01:31:43 AM

I've caught up with enough episodes on youtube to know the series was miles above this.

My fav episode so far is one in which Jim is given an LSD type of drug by Loveless.
The only episodes I've seen are from the first season although I did see one episode in color many years ago on television (If I recall correctly, an episode in which a villain wants to create a giant tidal wave to destroy something or other).



That sounds like season 2's Night of the Deadly Bubble. The villain wants to create a city beneath the sea and destroy mankind above the for polluting the oceans. Similar to the later Bond movie, THE SPY WHO LOVED ME. The first season is darker than the others, the second season is all sci fi/fantasy/horror related, the third season is more serious, American western tone with limited to no fantasy elements and the fourth season returns to the fantasy but the violence was toned down on most of the episodes. Fights became more acrobatic and West was often seen without his gun.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: cigar joe on January 13, 2009, 04:35:12 AM
I cringe at the rumors of a movie version of "Have Gun Will Travel".


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 13, 2009, 09:38:03 AM
I cringe at the rumors of a movie version of "Have Gun Will Travel".


They kinda did that already...

it was called Johnny Oro :D

Corbucci's classic is probably closer to the feel of the show than any Hollywood adaption will be that's for sure.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 13, 2009, 11:15:44 AM

They kinda did that already...

it was called Johnny Oro :D

Corbucci's classic is probably closer to the feel of the show than any Hollywood adaption will be that's for sure.

What?!?! That movie was nothing like the show save for the look of Damon's character which is the only connection  I see to it. :D And I don't mean that in a derogatory way as I think the movie is pretty damn good escapist entertainment. O0


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 13, 2009, 12:22:58 PM
What?!?! That movie was nothing like the show save for the look of Damon's character which is the only connection 


Yeah but Hollywood won't even get the look of Palladin right. They'll get an asian actor to portray him.
Mark my words :D


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 13, 2009, 12:24:28 PM

Yeah but Hollywood won't even get the look of Palladin right. They'll get an asian actor to portray him.
Mark my words :D

The only way they'll get an Asian is if there's an American to pair him with. Chris Tucker or Owen Wilson I would imagine would be the likeliest candidates. :D


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Dust Devil on June 14, 2009, 11:42:20 AM
Atrocious.


1.8/10


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: titoli on August 28, 2011, 04:34:31 PM
A man on a wheelchair travelling on a train. Hmmm, that rings a bell...And a scene where Kline ask a girl about to shoot him with a gun to "aim for the heart".
Anyway, I don't know what you people expect from a Hollywood crap movie. I think that those who do not like this movies is because they expect too much from Hollywood. I just expect to be reasonably entertained and this movie does it. Of course, it could have been much better. First, I don't like Will Smith, but the decison to have a black man play West part could have been intelligent if they had played the race note more. Instead they let the West character (with a couple of exceptions and quite selfconsciously) behave like we were already hundred and thirty years after. This polical correctedness stinks. But the action scenes are good and so the CGE's; Selma Hayek can't play but who cares? I like her a hundred times more on a screen than Nicole Kidman. Kline is good, while Branagh is mediocre. 6\10



Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Groggy on August 28, 2011, 06:07:33 PM
Even blockbusters have standards.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: noodles_leone on August 30, 2011, 08:26:24 AM
Anyway, I don't know what you people expect from a Hollywood crap movie. I think that those who do not like this movies is because they expect too much from Hollywood.

I expect good movies from Hollywood, and I sometimes get them. I also get sometimes "ok movies with some good moments and some terrible ones" (Mission: Impossible and the like). And sometimes I get crappy movies with nothing to save, like this one.
I'm pretty sur I didnt' like it not because I expect too much from Hollywood (since Hollywood can rock), but just because this one sucks.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: titoli on August 30, 2011, 08:36:38 AM
I expect good movies from Hollywood, and I sometimes get them.

That's what I'm saying: you expect good movies, while I expect crap. 


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 30, 2011, 11:11:48 AM
1. isn't the title of the movie "Wild Wild West"? (no "The")

2. I saw this movie one time, the summer it was released, when I was 14 years old. I have great memories of it:  Two buddies and I snuck out of our summer camp (in upstate NY), and walked the 20 minutes down the road to the shittiest movie theater you ever saw, on Main Street in the tiny charming shithole of a town -- a Main Street where 3/4 of the stores are boarded up; tickets cost $4; and there were maybe one or two people with us in the theater -- which has since closed, re-opened, and closed again.

So as far as the movie-going experience, this was one of my favorite memories!

I loved the movie itself as well, but at the time, I had zero conception of a Western (and probably not much better conception of quality filmmaking either). So I have no clue what I would think of the movie if I saw it today. But it brings a smile to my face whenever I think of it. (one of my buddies would  hound me for years afterward, "Dude, why didn't we do that more often? Camp would have been much more fun!)


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: cigar joe on August 30, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
 ;)


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: noodles_leone on August 31, 2011, 09:36:44 AM
That's what I'm saying: you expect good movies, while I expect crap. 

Yep. And my point was: you are wrong :)

@drinkanddestroy: ;)


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: titoli on August 31, 2011, 10:16:39 AM
Yep. And my point was: you are wrong :)

Maybe. But that wasn't my point. Which was: my expectations are low, yours high.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Groggy on September 05, 2011, 10:26:18 AM
Maybe. But that wasn't my point. Which was: my expectations are low, yours high.

Anyone familiar with WWW's reputation isn't likely to have "high expectations."


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Dust Devil on September 12, 2011, 03:20:45 PM
1. isn't the title of the movie "Wild Wild West"? (no "The")

It is.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: Senza on February 26, 2013, 05:39:43 PM
I thought the movie was pretty fun to watch.


Title: Re: Wild Wild West (1999)
Post by: T.H. on March 04, 2013, 01:11:44 PM
Will Smith is one of the worst things to ever happen to movies and this piece of shit perfectly sums up everything horrible in modern films.  Film schools need to study this turd and teach their students on what not to do.

Patton Oswalt on this crapfest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s10XIDC1bUs