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Title: The Magnificent Seven Ride! (1972)
Post by: Bill Carson on January 14, 2005, 04:40:47 PM
 8)  I remember watching this one years ago when ITV played the original MAGNIFICENT SEVEN and in the following weeks, the sequels followed; each sequel proved worse than the previous!


Title: Re: The Magnificent Seven Ride! (1972)
Post by: KERMIT on January 17, 2005, 11:35:29 PM
Actually, there seems to be some debate as to whether the third or the fourth one is worse: "Guns of..." (which I've not seen) is reputed to have a better basic story concept and production values, but at least one critic whose opinion I respect seems to think that Ride is the better directed and more consistently entertaining of the two last ones (and he didn't strike me as someone with a dog in the George Kennedy vs. LVC fight, so to speak).

In any case, I think the American producers would've been smarter to just shoot Ride in Spain with Italian cofinanciers and director and mostly-standard SW supporting cast, if they could have (Luke Askew, Stefanie Powers, and Gary Busey are the only supporting cast members who aren't completely useless).  Movie would've certainly looked better, possibly have been better overall.
 
                                                                     
LVC should have done a film about a mysterious gunfighter who plays a vampire bounty killer.   clint's old pal from rawhide, trail boss gil favor/ eric fleming, played in a gothic western called "curse of the undead", circa ' 59.  lee's beady eyed, hyponotic, sneer-stare would have been great for the part of van helsing/van cleff we'll never know.  bloody shame    

i've never seen any of the MAG. 7 sequels. if i had a chance to see one LVC,  as cris, beats whipper snapper george kenedy any dern tootin' day .      



Title: Re: The Magnificent Seven Ride! (1972)
Post by: cigar joe on January 18, 2005, 05:11:38 AM
Mag 7 & Mag 7 Ride are onlt $9.99 at Best Buy, Kerm. lol

$8.50 is the price of a movie ticket around these parts.


Title: Re: The Magnificent Seven Ride! (1972)
Post by: KERMIT on January 18, 2005, 07:10:12 PM
i've saddled up my dodge van and am heading out to best buy. a cheap western binge buy isn't a very pretty thing...
....but i think it's just about time i had one, lol


Title: Re: The Magnificent Seven Ride! (1972)
Post by: Moorman on March 12, 2017, 07:29:59 PM
This was ok.  In fact, the gunfight at the end was better than the original Mag 7 gunfight.

Cinematography.  It was ok. Set pieces and scenery were ok.

Script. Mixed opinion. A lot of plot holes were explained, which was good.

Acting. Ok. Not Van Cleefs best role, but it was ok.

Musical Score. Got repetitive in spots.

Overall, i rate this a 6 out of 10...


Title: Re: The Magnificent Seven Ride! (1972)
Post by: Spikeopath on June 04, 2017, 07:19:52 AM
Ugh!

The Magnificent 7/The Dirty 5/Flogged Dead Horse 1.

The Magnificent Seven Ride is directed by George McCowan and written by Arthur Rowe. It stars Lee Van Cleef, Stefanie Powers, Michael Callan, Mariette Hartley, Luke Askew and Ralph Waite. Music is scored by Elmer Bernstein and cinematography by Fred Koenekamp.

The third and final sequel to John Sturges' The Magnificent Seven (1960), "Ride" is a pretty lifeless affair that plays out as nothing more than a last resort TV time waster.

Plot finds Chris Adams (previously played by Yul Brynner and George Kennedy and now by Van Cleef) as an older man settled down as a town marshal. When one day he is coerced by his wife Arilla (Hartley) to parole a young scoundrel, they both come to regret it very quickly. Chris is set on a path of revenge that will eventually take him to a border town that has been raped, pillaged and stripped of all males by bandits led by Del Toro (Ron Stein). Sure enough, backed by some convicts released into Chris' custody on promise of parole for their gunnery services, Chris and the rest of the seven set about protecting this town now made up only of women and children.

It honestly sounds better than it is! The film is tired across the board, it's now become a weary premise for any "seven" fan to sit through. The production is cheap looking, the colour photography drab, even Bernstein's iconic score is pared down, while McCowan (Frogs) directs in a ponderous fashion. There's loads of talking that really doesn't add up to much, main characters are either not defined (we barely know the five convicts or the villain Del Toro) or react bafflingly to a situation (Chris and Powers' Laurie begin a relationship quickly after losing their respective spouses' to murder!).

The shift to an older lawman Chris is a good idea, but it never gets utilised and Cleef is pretty stagnant (or bored) in the role. The plot point of using convicts to make up the "seven" was a bold try, but it just comes off as being a cheap knock-off of The Dirty Dozen. The makers go for a psychological kick by only letting us see or hear the aftermath of crimes, which is good since there is some upsetting stuff in the mix, but again it is handled so laboriously it tests the patience considerably. This also means the picture is devoid of thrilling moments to at least keep the action fan interested, meaning the "big" finale has to pay bigger dividends than it actually does.

Return of the Magnificent Seven and Guns of the Magnificent Seven are hardly great sequels, but they have some worth to Western fans in general, but "Ride" is sadly a case of flogging a dead horse. A poor movie that really should never have been made. 3/10