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Films of Sergio Leone => For a Few Dollars More => Topic started by: General Sibley on February 14, 2004, 01:04:56 PM



Title: The Madman Indio
Post by: General Sibley on February 14, 2004, 01:04:56 PM
This poor little section hasn't had a post in over a month.  

I think El Indio is the best thing about this movie, he's got to be one of the most off the wall villains ever in a western.  Sadistic but romantic, brilliant but insane, a killer with a death wish.  This is all Volonte, no way the original script could have made this character this quirky.

I know this ground's been covered in a previous thread, but I love Indio's antsy craving for his preferred brand of smoke after he kills.  Kinda like when Curley of the Stooges gets all wound up with the "Moe, Larry - CHEESE!"


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: cigar joe on February 14, 2004, 07:58:20 PM
Yea Indio is great, its got to be some inspired improv like you say, he's up there with Dennis Hopper's Frank from "Blue Velvet". lol.


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: General Sibley on February 16, 2004, 01:17:59 PM
I can see Indio with the gasmask, I wouldn't put it past him at all.   MOMMY !


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: cigar joe on February 16, 2004, 05:07:28 PM
"It's DADDY sh*thead!" Lol.  8)


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: General Sibley on February 28, 2004, 04:23:37 AM
CJ, you're so F*CKING suave!  ;D


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: cigar joe on February 28, 2004, 05:18:14 AM
 ;D


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: mortimerforever on June 11, 2004, 10:16:18 AM
according to frayling, volonte's role was just going to be a typical western villain named tombstone. but sense got the better of leone and he changed the character to larger than life and much better sounding el indio.


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Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: LINCOLNS GRANDFATHER on August 07, 2004, 10:02:31 PM
Indio is the ultimate bad guy, none better in any movie Leone or otherwise.
Thats just my opinion.


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: DJIMBO on August 08, 2004, 02:09:54 PM
"I know, i'm sure you hate me just enough."

Volonte is brilliant and he doesnt even know it - he hates his dollars performances and the films


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: KERMIT on August 09, 2004, 02:15:45 PM
vollonte's expertise, in such two crucial leone $ films leading up to GB&U,  might'nt have got  bang for the buck that catapults leone's work right up there with directors  that made such a deep impression leone's genius. those guys must have been flatened. america
let an box office draw die for what ever reason, olny to find out, there's this italian guy that goes by an alias of bob roberts as do all of his comtemparies, AND there taking a genre and breathting new life into it. jaws must have been agape in tinsletown looking up on the big screen and seeing all that cash they couldn't have.
leone deserved better.
 


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: Nobody on August 10, 2004, 06:10:11 AM
Frank Booth has always been my favourite movie villain, and I can easily picture Volonte playing him: I'll f*ck anything that moves!


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: DJIMBO on August 11, 2004, 05:50:38 AM
nobody, i presume when u refer to Frank Booth you mean Frank from Once Upon a Time in the West, just wondered how did u find out his surname?


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: redyred on August 11, 2004, 10:39:44 AM
I think he means the guy from Blue Velvet, played by Dennis Hopper.


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: DJIMBO on August 11, 2004, 12:09:31 PM
lol, im glad thats been cleared up 2 save further embarassment!!  ;D


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: General Sibley on August 12, 2004, 11:13:39 AM
vollonte's expertise, in such two crucial leone $ films leading up to GB&U,  might'nt have got  bang for the buck that catapults leone's work right up there with directors  that made such a deep impression leone's genius.  

Part of Leone's genius is his casting of villains, he created roles for some of the great bad guys of moviedom:  Ramon, El Indio, AngelEyes, Frank, Max - these are all magnificent characters, they have a lot more dimension to them than your typical villain.

IMO that's a major reason that Fistful of Dynamite falls short of his other work - where's the larger than life bad guy?  He's trying to make "The System" the villain, but it's not as menacing as an Indio stoned out of his mind.


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: Belkin on August 14, 2004, 06:37:36 PM
Part of Leone's genius is his casting of villains, he created roles for some of the great bad guys of moviedom:  Ramon, El Indio, AngelEyes, Frank, Max - these are all magnificent characters, they have a lot more dimension to them than your typical villain.

IMO that's a major reason that Fistful of Dynamite falls short of his other work - where's the larger than life bad guy?  He's trying to make "The System" the villain, but it's not as menacing as an Indio stoned out of his mind.
Damm right, my friend, now if only he had cast ROBERT MITCHUM (as Sean Sean) and  TELLY SAVALAS as JUAN! Sparks might have flown! ;)


Title: Re:The Madman Indio
Post by: KERMIT on August 14, 2004, 11:49:10 PM
the coronal smokes a pipe.  shows a stubborness.

monco lights a cigar.  shows an arrogance.

indio smokes.......well,  his brand.  hallucinagothic, psycotrinic glare in his eye.  it's flashback time.  :o
whola ta smokin' goin' on.