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Title: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 13, 2009, 04:53:59 PM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1446714/

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1645939/


Ridley Scott is set to direct!

Bloody hell, how haven't I heard of this before! It's fuckin' awesome!


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 13, 2009, 04:55:11 PM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2009/jul/31/ridley-scott-alien-prequel


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Kurug3n on August 13, 2009, 08:07:39 PM
soooooooooooooooooooooo

how does it work in the conveluted timeline of the Alien series?


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 13, 2009, 10:48:35 PM
how does it work in the conveluted timeline of the Alien series?

Before the first in the series, nothing to to with that AVP crapfest.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Groggy on August 14, 2009, 07:58:42 AM
I'm not adamantly opposed to the idea, but what the hell would a prequel entail?


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Whalestoe on August 14, 2009, 10:53:01 AM
I'm not adamantly opposed to the idea, but what the hell would a prequel entail?

I would guess the Aliens and the Space Jockey.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 14, 2009, 11:50:15 AM
Yeah, apparently the story will be taken back, before the Nostromo met with the xenomorph(s), and explain how they got there in first place, who created them and what is the role of the Space Jockey(s).


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: T.H. on August 14, 2009, 01:30:14 PM
If THE PETRIFIED FOREST, KEY LARGO or THE DESPERATE HOURS didn't need a prequel, why would this? Either DJ or Titoli penned it a "monster in the house" movie, which I completely agree, so where's the logic or the need for this to exist? Seems like a cash-in, and judging from American Prankster, this too will opt for blandness.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: T.H. on August 14, 2009, 02:59:35 PM
Revenge of the Sith is not a good movie, just slightly less horrendous than the first two installments.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: T.H. on August 14, 2009, 06:36:18 PM
Hayden (anti)Christensen's complete lack of talent kills any potential positives the movie had to offer, which to be honest, I don't remember too many.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 15, 2009, 11:16:39 AM
I'm expecting ideas concerning the background of the Alien(s) most than anything else, and since most of the psychological aspects of their disturbing life circle have already been explored and exploited in previous movies I'm not so much interested in cheap thrills and gore. I think if you'd ask all the true fans of the series most of them would agree the signing of Ridley Scott as a director is a excellent move, after all Alien was his child, and he said he was intrigued by the idea of continuing and developing the mythos more than once in the past.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 15, 2009, 11:21:47 AM
Not to mention he has a score to settle with James Cameron (http://www.thescubasite.com/smile/fighting/fighting0030.gif) (http://www.thescubasite.com/Scuba-Diving-in-the-USA/scuba-diving-in-the-hawaii)


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 15, 2009, 01:47:39 PM
If THE PETRIFIED FOREST, KEY LARGO or THE DESPERATE HOURS didn't need a prequel, why would this? Either DJ or Titoli penned it a "monster in the house" movie, which I completely agree, so where's the logic or the need for this to exist? Seems like a cash-in, and judging from American Prankster, this too will opt for blandness.


I'm with you on this TH as well as saying ROTS being a piece of crap.
I find it even more intolerable than the previous two prequels.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: T.H. on August 15, 2009, 02:13:32 PM
I'd have to watch the trilogy again to really have an informed opinion on the matter, but I probably will save myself the agony.

I just don't understand how anyone can be excited about something that Ridley Scott will direct. He really hasn't made a great movie. BLADE RUNNER has some beautiful scenes, but overall, is a mis-fire - it doesn't know what it wants to be despite its strong conclusion.

This screams giganitc disappointment.

And Cameron > Scott. The two Terminator movies are pop masterpieces.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 16, 2009, 01:23:35 AM
I've heard/read somewhere (was it on the commentary track of Aliens?) that Ridley Scott WAS initially interested in directing the sequel but the studio went for Cameron instead. So I guess there is a little pride burning inside.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 17, 2009, 09:05:45 AM
No Sigourney Weaver in the prequel: http://io9.com/5329089/sigourney-weaver-says-no-ripley-in-alien-prequel


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Whalestoe on August 17, 2009, 11:35:08 AM
No Sigourney Weaver in the prequel: http://io9.com/5329089/sigourney-weaver-says-no-ripley-in-alien-prequel

What would be the point of her being in a prequel to the first Alien? Unless time travel was involved! O0


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 17, 2009, 02:43:21 PM
What would be the point of her being in a prequel to the first Alien? Unless time travel was involved! O0

It didn't say Sigourney Weaver won't be in the movie, but Ripley, there's a difference. ;)


There was a little chance SW would have a cameo role, but I think it's better this way.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Colonel GŁnther Ruiz on August 18, 2009, 05:32:03 PM
Ripley has already been cloned.  Why not time travel?   ::)


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on August 18, 2009, 07:51:53 PM
Ripley has already been cloned.  Why not time travel?   ::)

There will be no more mention of that fourth installment, in any context, way, or form. It does not exist anymore, it's a lost movie.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on July 07, 2010, 11:57:42 AM
Apparently there will be two of them, the first coming out in 2011 and the second in 2012.

Hmm... :-\


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Groggy on March 22, 2011, 05:53:38 PM
In case anyone was interested:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jan/17/alien-prequel-ridley-scott-prometheus (http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/jan/17/alien-prequel-ridley-scott-prometheus)


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 23, 2011, 02:56:21 PM
Not that it matters now but what do we need an origin story for?
Aren't the Aliens just beings from another planet?
Animals?



Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on March 24, 2011, 11:24:41 AM
I don't quite understand...


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 29, 2011, 01:46:34 AM
I don't quite understand...

I'm sayin' that the "Aliens" are just creatures created by nature.
What origin is there that is begging to be told?


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 29, 2011, 01:47:21 AM
By the way, what happened to Whalestoe?


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: moviesceleton on March 29, 2011, 05:16:55 AM
By the way, what happened to Whalestoe?
Geez... RIP Whalestoe.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Groggy on March 29, 2011, 08:30:21 AM
By the way, what happened to Whalestoe?

I harpooned him.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on March 29, 2011, 09:50:57 AM
I'm sayin' that the "Aliens" are just creatures created by nature.

No, I meant I don't understand what are they doing with the films.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on March 29, 2011, 09:53:59 AM
By the way, what happened to Whalestoe?

He either deleted his account or Cal, for some reason, did it for him. Since he isn't coming back, I think the first situation is the more probable. He was posting here less and less as the years went by, a pity though, I liked him.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Groggy on March 29, 2011, 05:30:17 PM
No, I meant I don't understand what are they doing with the films.

They're not making them.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 29, 2011, 10:42:30 PM
He was posting here less and less as the years went by

Years? Doesn't seem like he was around for that long.
Now we can't really know when he registered I guess...?
I liked him too.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on December 17, 2012, 12:43:37 PM
I've seen this in the meantime, hopefully I'll snatch some free time and post my thoughts in a couple of days.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on January 06, 2013, 05:53:41 AM
Anyway.

In short lines: a pointless exercise. In my, very humble opinion, they should have focused more on what made Alien a great SF franchise in first place. The atmosphere, the 'hang time', the pace, the ideas. They partially did this, but not in a good way. The biggest problem is they basically rehashed all of the characters from the first movie, and made them sillier, and then threw them in a Ickean scenario. Again I ask; what was the point? Also, a lot of times I had the feeling Scott was trying to even the score with Cameron, if there was, objectively, a score to even in first place (for the latter directing the sequel).

Standalone, this movie does deserve (a near) 7/10. In the franchise, it merely scratches a 6/10 on a sunny day.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on January 06, 2013, 05:54:45 AM
Needless to sayl I don't expect anything good from the second one.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Groggy on January 06, 2013, 06:37:32 AM
Prometheus had only peripheral connection with Alien anyway. They should have kept it a standalone movie.

I thought it started really well then dive-bombed into cliched stupidity. Characters act stupidly to forward the story, the plot takes nonsensical twists and the creature designs are underwhelming. A forgettable turd, so pretty much par for the Ridley Scott course.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Dust Devil on January 06, 2013, 06:43:53 AM
Well, they explained the genesis of the Xenomorph, I just don't understand why they needed a whole movie for that.


Title: Re: Prometheus (2012)
Post by: Groggy on January 06, 2013, 06:48:36 AM
I didn't really need to see a giant alien vagina going down on a white space giant either.