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Films of Sergio Leone => A Fistful of Dollars => Topic started by: pablo113 on February 22, 2010, 06:35:24 PM

Title: Eastwoods gun
Post by: pablo113 on February 22, 2010, 06:35:24 PM
Was Eastwoods gun black or like a silver gray?

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_cattleman_om_oldwest_lg.jpg

or

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/images/1873_cattleman_nm_brass_lg.jpg

this one?

Pablo
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: cigar joe on February 23, 2010, 03:58:54 AM
The top one is weathered after all the use it would look like the top one. On the day he bought it it would look like the bottom one. That help? O0
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: Harmonica on February 23, 2010, 03:10:10 PM
Eastwood’s gun would have more than likely been a civilian model so the bluing process would have been handled much more vigorously and applied 4 or 5 times such as in your second example.  The more times you apply the process the darker the color becomes.  Mass produced military models always underwent just one bluing process due to efficiency and cost.  The bluing process applied just once will give the firearm a grayish hue like your first example there.  Experienced gunsmiths of the day could very well “re-blue” your gun to your specific liking and we all know that Joe/Manco/Blondie had a very good gunsmith.

Your second picture is a nice one.  I have one exactly like it but with a 7 ½ inch barrel.  

Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: cigar joe on February 24, 2010, 04:13:04 AM
I think Clint's gun was the bronze version rather than the brass one.

(http://s219.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/a1line/guns2/fod6.jpg)

From this screen cap you can see the bluing beginning to wear off especially on the barrel end of the ejector rod housing tube and the bottom corner of the metal part of the grip.
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: pablo113 on February 24, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
Those guns are 1873?


Pablo
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: cigar joe on February 25, 2010, 04:12:36 PM
The top one may be close, the bottom no, it has a serial #, I don't think they put that on them in 1873.
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: pablo113 on February 25, 2010, 07:45:35 PM
No the replica guns, are they modeled after the 1873 version or a later version?


Pablo
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: cigar joe on February 25, 2010, 08:44:43 PM

The gutta percha grips are post 1885 though on this image:

http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/Colt%20SAA-S1.jpg

Read about them here:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/Colt%2520SAA-S1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.wisnersinc.com/additional_info/Colt_SAA.htm&usg=__LG1fZXhzEEwM0agypqvXl-SuqpY=&h=414&w=803&sz=39&hl=en&start=16&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=UMICtF8eA6cPzM:&tbnh=74&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3D1873%2BColt%2BSAA%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Ds%26tbs%3Disch:1

Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: pablo113 on February 25, 2010, 09:43:07 PM
So whats the deal with the fanning of the gun? Most single actions I saw are hard to cock, let alone fan?

Pablo
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: Harmonica on February 26, 2010, 12:46:13 AM
No the replica guns, are they modeled after the 1873 version or a later version?

Pablo

No, the Umberti’s you posted are defiantly molded after the Colt 1873 SAA.

So whats the deal with the fanning of the gun? Most single actions I saw are hard to cock, let alone fan?

Pablo
 

Not so much really.  Fanning or "slip shooting" a single action is really all about the speed.  The trick is to have your finger depressed on the trigger before cocking the gun.  If your finger has already depressed the trigger the only action required to fire it is rotating the cylinder and letting the hammer drop on the cartridge.  The key to fanning is keeping the trigger depressed as you are rotating the cylinder in quick secession.

It takes about 6 pounds of pressure to cock a single action with the trigger depressed and about 8 pounds of pressure without the trigger being depressed.  The trigger pull on a single action, which wouldn’t apply in fanning it, is about 2 pounds of pressure.

To fan a single action takes about the same amount of energy as moderately clapping your hands, although the gunfighters of yesteryear and the competitive shooters of today go at it much harder than that because faster equals harder. On the other hand, softer means better accuracy, so there is a fine line to be drawn between speed and being accurate.      
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: pablo113 on February 26, 2010, 12:03:15 PM
Why does Eastwood guns cock so easily? I have black powder pistol and its impossible to fan it.

Pablo
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: cigar joe on February 27, 2010, 03:34:12 AM
a broken in or modified spring no doubt.
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: Harmonica on March 03, 2010, 04:04:54 AM
Why does Eastwood guns cock so easily? I have black powder pistol and its impossible to fan it.

Pablo

What type of gun do you have Pablo?

Have you ever field stripped it before?

If it's a Colt or a knock off Colt you can put a piece of leather between the mainspring and the back strap to deflect the angle of tourqe and that will do the trick!
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: pablo113 on March 05, 2010, 11:31:47 PM
How difficult is it to break down a Colt .45?

Pablo
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: Harmonica on March 29, 2010, 12:06:03 PM
How difficult is it to break down a Colt .45?

Pablo

Here is me field stripping my .45

http://www.youtube.com/user/Dambrosia111?feature=mhw4#p/a/u/0/gEEr0CqQtQM
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: cigar joe on March 29, 2010, 02:06:23 PM
nice video  O0
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: Harmonica on March 29, 2010, 02:53:12 PM
Thanks Joe!  :)  Looking at it now, though, it needs more light and less volume...  lol...
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: Dirty Rat on March 31, 2010, 12:00:38 AM
Great viewing. Thanks!
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on March 31, 2010, 01:27:34 AM
Very nice, indeed!!  O0

But somehow I think it will take you more than 4 minutes and 35 seconds to put it back together..... ;)
Title: Re: Eastwoods gun
Post by: Dust Devil on March 31, 2010, 05:55:39 AM
Here is me field stripping my .45

http://www.youtube.com/user/Dambrosia111?feature=mhw4#p/a/u/0/gEEr0CqQtQM

I know you guys won't believe me but I was watching the video and all of a sudden it crossed my mind that it'd be nice to listen to She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, and then, before I had the time to do anything, the song actually started playing. :o

Thanks for the video! O0