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Title: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Dirty Rat on January 10, 2011, 01:17:57 PM
I hope this hasn't been posted before. Sorry if it has, I had a good search first......

I stumbled across this book on google whilst searching for info on the two different versions of the track The Trio.
Here is a link;
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=G2lqIuCFJ_MC&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq=the+good+the+bad+the+ugly+the+trio+different+version&source=bl&ots=pjjteCn-Mj&sig=VHBzKy-BIYPXj1UamjUXYBtRkoM&hl=en&ei=gGYrTdmgPIaphAey6KSuAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=the%20good%20the%20bad%20the%20ugly%20the%20trio%20different%20version&f=false (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=G2lqIuCFJ_MC&pg=PA106&lpg=PA106&dq=the+good+the+bad+the+ugly+the+trio+different+version&source=bl&ots=pjjteCn-Mj&sig=VHBzKy-BIYPXj1UamjUXYBtRkoM&hl=en&ei=gGYrTdmgPIaphAey6KSuAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CFMQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=the%20good%20the%20bad%20the%20ugly%20the%20trio%20different%20version&f=false)

Looks pretty interesting to me.

It's also available from Amazon


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: dave jenkins on January 10, 2011, 01:56:11 PM
I have a copy of this. Maybe I should actually read it . . .


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Dust Devil on January 11, 2011, 12:12:48 AM

... or wait for the BR.


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: noodles_leone on January 11, 2011, 04:43:49 AM
... or wait for the BR.

:D


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Dirty Rat on January 11, 2011, 12:24:10 PM
What is the BR?


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Dust Devil on January 12, 2011, 12:55:22 AM
Blu-ray, disc.


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Novecento on January 12, 2011, 12:59:54 PM
I have a copy of this. Maybe I should actually read it . . .

Please do read it and let us know if it's worth getting. It looks pretty interesting.

What is the BR?

The usual abbreviation is BD.


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: iceman on January 19, 2011, 01:37:44 PM
On E Bay here...  110633023912

ICE


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Lil Brutto on December 09, 2014, 04:50:35 PM
Any interesting info pertaining to used/unused score in GBU?


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Jordan Krug on December 10, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Any interesting info pertaining to used/unused score in GBU?

I found this little passage from this book online, perhaps this explains why we hear two different versions of the showdown score in the italian and international cut (perhaps for home video the Italians used the soundtrack album to recreate the score for the film?)  :

(http://i.imgur.com/05irO4e.png)


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Lil Brutto on December 10, 2014, 05:56:07 AM
That's the kind of info I'm looking for!  O0

Is this an excerpt from the film score guide? If so, is the rest of the info he provides "common knowledge"?


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Jordan Krug on December 10, 2014, 07:22:20 AM
Google allows you to view pages from this book, although it skips tons of pages as well. I found this just skimming through but it looks like it goes track by track in the book so perhaps there is info on the grotto score? When I get a chance I'll look again...

Edit* it looks like this book is available as a kindle edition, which is sweet, 35$ which is not so sweet but I might pull the trigger...


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Jordan Krug on December 10, 2014, 07:36:17 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/gTngEly.jpg)


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Jordan Krug on December 10, 2014, 07:38:51 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/PbB5u5X.jpg)

I was able to download a sample with "title pages"...maybe the grotto isn't there? I'm not familiar with the soundtrack album, how is the grotto score described?


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Lil Brutto on December 10, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
"Il grotto" is the 2nd half of track 5 titled, "Il ponte di corde" (aka "The rope bridge") on the expanded GDM CD soundtrack.

http://enniomorricone-ilmaestro.blogspot.ca/2010/07/good-bad-and-ugly-il-buono-il-brutto-il.html


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Novecento on December 10, 2014, 06:30:48 PM
Google allows you to view pages from this book, although it skips tons of pages as well. I found this just skimming through but it looks like it goes track by track in the book so perhaps there is info on the grotto score? When I get a chance I'll look again...

Edit* it looks like this book is available as a kindle edition, which is sweet, 35$ which is not so sweet but I might pull the trigger...

A certain Mr Jenkins on the forum apparently has a copy of the book...


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Cusser on December 11, 2014, 11:27:05 AM
"Il grotto" is the 2nd half of track 5 titled, "Il ponte di corde" (aka "The rope bridge") on the expanded GDM CD soundtrack.

http://enniomorricone-ilmaestro.blogspot.ca/2010/07/good-bad-and-ugly-il-buono-il-brutto-il.html

Why -on that link http://enniomorricone-ilmaestro.blogspot.ca/2010/07/good-bad-and-ugly-il-buono-il-brutto-il.html
 - does it state "Definitive 4 CD Edition" ?  I have the first CD pictured (the GDM) and it's one disc.


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: uncknown on December 11, 2014, 02:21:38 PM
For a shorter read , don't forget my Film Score Monthly article posted on this site!
bruce

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=11849.0


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Cusser on January 02, 2015, 06:58:08 AM
I saw pieces of GBU yesterday while doing work at home (Cinemax, 380 minute version, not letterboxed), and absolutely the film was designed from ground up to coordinate with music, not just the end scenes.  First example is Angel Eyes arrival at Stevens' home, how he turns his head exactly in time with the music; very likely that the music was already written and the scene timed to the music.  Another example might be Tuco smoking Blondie's cigar found in the campfire.  I'm sure there are more....


Title: Re: The good, the bad and the ugly: a film score guide
Post by: Jordan Krug on January 02, 2015, 11:53:42 AM
I saw pieces of GBU yesterday while doing work at home (Cinemax, 380 minute version, not letterboxed), and absolutely the film was designed from ground up to coordinate with music, not just the end scenes.  First example is Angel Eyes arrival at Stevens' home, how he turns his head exactly in time with the music; very likely that the music was already written and the scene timed to the music.  Another example might be Tuco smoking Blondie's cigar found in the campfire.  I'm sure there are more....

Yes, the film is very much like an extended music video. The film score books contains a quote from Wallach who says the only scene they played music on set for was the beating scene (since the actors needed to mime singing the song)