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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 21, 2021, 02:08:55 AM »
It's a movie I love every other time I watch it, and that disappoints me the other time. It's a also a movie I keep returning to.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 19, 2021, 06:39:17 AM »
Also DJ totally forgot the biggest landmark in the history of Cinema.

2000: The Patriot, starring a well known antisemitic public figure, showed that canonballs do bounce.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo (2011)
« on: October 17, 2021, 04:09:57 AM »
Must watch 3h40 making of:

Although, yes, if you do have 3h40 in front of you, maybe watch OUATIA again.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Social Network (2010)
« on: October 17, 2021, 04:08:25 AM »
Absolutely terrific 90min making of:

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: ZODIAC (2007) - a film by David Fincher
« on: October 17, 2021, 04:07:24 AM »
Zodiac Making of featurette (27'):
Behind The Big Screen : Zodiac Special Effects (6'58):
VFX Breakdowns - Digital Domain - Zodiac (3'54):
Zodiac's audio commentary by David Fincher:

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 17, 2021, 03:51:08 AM »
La vie de J?sus / The Life of Jesus (Bruno Dumont, 1997) - 7/10
This seems to me like a "leftist catholic" answer to Boisset's Dupont Lajoie. Dumont's first feature is a powerful, deeply human and spiritual tale rooted in radical poetic naturalism. The filmmaker never openly juges and rarely comments, eventhough his tenderness for the people depected is obvious. The audience is left alone watching these people live: they're poor, they drive motorcycle, they have deeply usatisfying sex and they're bored to death. Litteraly to death, since the main character is kind of a french Travis Bickle: he's having an existential crisis and cannot understand or put the words on what he's experiencing. But unlike 70's NYC, there is absolutely nothing to do in the countryside of northern France in the 90's. So he more or less consciently tries to kill himself as many times as possible. He's also jaleous, sexist and racist. He ends up sexually agressing and then racially agressing people. But in Marty's movie, the violent actions of Travis are almost random. Here they feel like a tragedy waiting to happen: nothing else might even happen in this time and place. Another big difference with Scorsese' first masterpiece is that Dumont give a true life to the female character. She isn't just a fake path toward redemption like the girl in Taxi Driver. She's also a deeply unsatisfied human being who somehow feels there is more to life than what she can see around her. She's a path toward Grace, but she doesn't have the key. A young muslim seems to be the key for a minute, but there is no escape.

Flandres / Flanders (Bruno Dumont, 2006) - 5.5/10
Dumont's poetic narutalism forgets the naturalism part once those guys go to war. Which is where the movie falls apart. I'd go with Cimino's essentialism (the deeply rooted in realism russian roulette scenes, of course) vs Dumont's one any day. All the scenes in Flandres are amazing though. Once again, a great female character. The movie is, weirdly enough, even more religion oriented than The Life of Jesus.

Humanit? / Humanity (Burno Dumont, 1999) - 8.5/10
Dumont's second feature is the deepest, richest and best one I've seen. It isn't an easy watch, but what a powerful one. Some people call it "one of the most beautiful movies ever" (they're not saying the pictures are pretty: they aren't. They're true though.) and they may very well be right. I'll revisit it later.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 15, 2021, 09:06:44 AM »
It doesn't seem to exist (yet). It isn't mentioned on Maalouf's website and it isn't on, two websites where you would definitly find it when/if it gets a proper release.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 15, 2021, 03:05:09 AM »
Thanks, I'll check it out.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: ZODIAC (2007) - a film by David Fincher
« on: October 08, 2021, 11:20:17 AM »
No I mean he's one of the best craftmen there ever was in the industry, up there with Scorsese and Spielberg from their prime.
I'm not saying he's one of the best FILMMAKERS ever. I'm just talking about the TECHNICAL side of things, in the broadest possible meaning, but still only that one side.
Also I'm not alone saying that, the whole industry knows it.

 He's also a technical innovator who transformed the way movies, music videos, commercials, down to stupid youtube videos are made (worklows, way to use some technologies...) with Zodiac and The Social Network (which, technically speaking, isn't much more than Zodiac refined, radicalised and using newer, more mature technologies). Once again that doesn't make him a god. But that makes him somebody who cannot be replaced at the helm of a project without huge consequences on the end result.

I can back all of this with dozens of concrete examples but that would require a lot of time, and I'm not sure you're gonna read half of it. Without any sarcasm: if you're genuinely interested, I can go into all of this. It's easy for me, I've witnessed all of this because I've started working at the begining of the decade that he influenced the most, so I use what he invented (or sometimes just popularized, you know, the old inventor vs innovator debate) every day, as do many people around me.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: ZODIAC (2007) - a film by David Fincher
« on: October 08, 2021, 04:56:37 AM »
Are you gonna link to old discussions of this movie?  :o

I may. I'm also trying to find old in depth articles and other online content about that movie (there was an astonishing article about the editing process, couldn't find it yesterday. The making of is also on youtube).

It's more like an ensemble film. All the actors do a great job though none of them really stands out performance wise, though of course most time is spent with Gyllenhaal, Downey Jr., Ruffalo, Edwards and Sevigny. They all could have been replaced by other actors with no real change in the overall quality of the film.

Good point.

This is true. Fincher could also have been replaced.


Of course he couldn't, this is seriously one of the best shot and edited movie that I've ever seen. I still think about particular editing points from Zodiac for almost every video I direct or produce (I make dozens of them every year - sometimes hundreds). The fact that the style isn't "in your face" doesn't mean it isn't well done. That style could be criticized though, but let's do it for the good reasons.

Once Upon A Time In America / Re: QT disses OUATIA
« on: October 07, 2021, 02:50:57 AM »
Well if it hadn?t been for 4 things, we?d all still be talking about it:

1. Another movie about a big ship that crosses the Atlantic hadn?t been released at the same time and broken all box office records
2. The English language release hadn?t been butchered as egregiously as OUATIA

3. The movie was one note (the set design was sometimes inspired by Caro & Jeunet. They should have taken a few hints on the tone too)
4. The CGI aged terribly

By the way, Novecento, have you ever noticed the guy who plays the main character has a small part in Mississipi Burning? His eyes are put to great use. I'm sure Leone would have casted him as a dispensable baddie just to do a close up.

Off-Topic Discussion / ZODIAC (2007) - a film by David Fincher
« on: October 07, 2021, 02:45:39 AM »
We love Zodiac. Zodiac had no thread here. The people wanted a Zodiac thread. There is now a Zodiac thread.
Let's discuss Zodiac.

I don't understand when that Leone board changed its mission and became obsessed by mocking David.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Once Upon a Time . . . in Hollywood (2019)
« on: October 06, 2021, 02:51:59 AM »
Waiting for the Definitive Edition Redux 8K remaster with 800 pages of previously unreleased foot porn found in the trash can of QT's laptop.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 05, 2021, 12:48:42 AM »
I'm not sure we can move to other movies yet. Everybody on this board has first to admit Mank is a masterpiece.

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