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General Discussion / Re: SALES! (B&N Criterion, etc.)
« on: October 18, 2021, 08:19:46 PM »
Kino is having a big sale right now for those in the States. The GBU 4K is 14.99 and the AFOD and FAFDM blurays are 9.99.

Some other noteworthy 9.99 titles are Bob the Gambler, Hands off the Loot/Grisbi and Le Doulos, among many others.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Kino Cult
« on: October 01, 2021, 01:33:48 PM »
I just hope they build up a large library. I like the layout and it functions very well for a new streaming app.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 01, 2021, 01:32:45 PM »
^^ I disagree about Mank no longer being a good guy. Fincher and co clearly blame the people and world around him for his troubles, or strongly imply that. The result of the election clearly broke him, and I find that to be ridiculous and that is more in line with something written by Paul Haggis. A character can be protrayed as very flawed while also being viewed as a hero. We will have to agree to disagree because I'm not going to move an inch on this, and if anything, I found this movie to be too simple.


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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Kino Cult
« on: September 30, 2021, 04:59:58 PM »
Just when I thought I couldn't love a company any more...this is great. Youtube, Tubi, movieland.Tv and now this app are great resources for retro movie fans, and all these apps are free.

I'll make sure to splurge even more during their next sale, whenever that is.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 30, 2021, 04:53:35 PM »
The filmmakers clearly view Mank as a martyr and a flawed hero that has been beaten down by the world he inhabits. You can say it was more of self-martyrdom on Mank's part in how an election result was the moment where he could no longer function in his professional and personal circles.

I'm not denying that Hearst wins the exchange, but that doesn't change anything I've said. Virtually everyone around Mank are more pragmatic than him, which plays into the filmmakers hero worship of Mank's rebelliousness and (his eventual) inability to function in all aspects of society. The filmmakers literally make him a hero by stating he saved an entire village of people. It's pretty strongly implied that Mank cares too much, and the constant fighting against the system will eventually be his downfall.

In my opinion, you're conflating what you've read about this movie with what's actually on screen. Barton Fink is a much more complex and analyzable movie dealing with a similar setting. A film that throws in a subplot about a secretary's husband missing in action is hardly something a subtle movie would incorporate. Especially when it's mostly tossed aside until the end of the movie.

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Once Upon A Time In America / Re: The role of women and sex in OUATIA
« on: September 30, 2021, 02:04:17 PM »
These hoods aren't emotionally mature/available enough to see the complexities in women, or anyone else. We see Deborah through Noodles' eyes literally and figuratively, she represents the life he can't have due to the rotten person he is. There's nothing wrong with a film being told from the point of view of men, and any movie about men is now going to be hamfisted garbage due to every movie needing a strong female character. While most movies would benefit from a strong female character or three, inserting an Annie Oakley or Calamity Jane into a GBU or a Wild Bunch would ruin some of the greatest movies ever made.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Licorcice Pizza (2021)
« on: September 30, 2021, 01:47:28 PM »
Licorcice Pizza?

Won't even be as good as Mystic Pizza.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 30, 2021, 01:46:29 PM »
Noodles, how can you not see how the movie makes Mank out to be a tragic hero and some sort of Hollywood martyr for his support of Sinclair? The film strongly implies that the result of an election causes a six year downward spiral, when the reality is that there is zero evidence that Mank supported Sinclair, and if anything, he supported his opponent or was completely indifferent to the election. Not only that, but the movie lies about how the results of a gubernatorial election was the catalyst for one of the most important movies ever made.

All the male Hollywood players all range from dull careerists to being relatively evil, with maybe Hearst as the lone exception -- who would have been a much more compelling character if he was given more screen time. Let's face it, this is pap, and is a Sam Mendes script that happened to be directed by one of the few modern masters.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: MANK (David Fincher, 2020)
« on: September 28, 2021, 11:23:11 AM »
This would have worked better if it used fictional characters since this seems to have little to no basis in reality. While I don't really care that much when movies take dramatic license, Mank takes 'dramatic license' to the extreme. Welles fanatics would have to be infuriated watching this, but at least it was beautifully shot, I guess. But for a Fincher movie being set in the 30's + 1940, you expect more. The first hour is really damn good, but then the 1934 CA gubernatorial election plotline really drags this down. Disappointing. Barton Fink (1991) and Ed Wood (1994) are much better movies dealing with similar subject matter. A very generous B- due to its setting and visuals.


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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 28, 2021, 11:20:25 AM »
Mank (2020) - This would have worked better if it used fictional characters since this seems to have little to no basis in reality. While I don't really care that much when movies take dramatic license, Mank takes 'dramatic license' to the extreme. Welles fanatics would have to be infuriated watching this, but at least it was beautifully shot, I guess. But for a Fincher movie set in the 30's + 1940, you expect more. The first hour is really damn good, but then the 1934 CA gubernatorial election plotline really drags this down. Disappointing. Barton Fink (1991) and Ed Wood (1994) are much better movies dealing with similar subject matter. A very generous B- due to its setting and visuals.

Mank (2020) - 3/10. In order to beatify the life and work of St. Mankiewicz, the makers of Mank decided to demonize just about everybody else. Not Welles: he's irrelevant, apparently he did almost nothing on the screenplay. The movie isn't really about Citizen Kane, or the writing of it, anyway, rather, it's about a man who supported Upton Sinclair for governor of California in 1934. It's also the story of a wonderful drunk with a heart of gold, who, in life, was completely ineffectual in every regard, but was able to bear witness to the perfidy about him. That perfidy is performed, in flashback, by a cast of Hollywood A-listers, every one, according to Finchers fils and pere, a shit. Hearst of course is evil, as is Louis B. Mayer, but the recriminations don't end there: Irving Thalberg is presented as utterly craven; Mank's brother Joe comes off as an industry tool; John Houseman is a buffoon; Selznick, an empty suit; even Marion Davies, who is treated respectfully throughout most of the movie, is finally shown to be feckless and vain.  It would be one thing if the characters were entirely the invention of the filmmakers--then they would just be boring. But they bear the names of actual historical people, people who were complex, people who, when summoned back from the dead, should be given substance. Were any of these folks actually talented? Were they at least good at what they did? The film couldn't care less. The important thing was how they got along with Mank, who saved us all, drinking himself to death for our sins. The stench of sanctimony wafting its way to me from the screen really put me off my popcorn.

This is spot on, and even though I'm more forgiving, I can not argue any of these points. You were right to doubt this before its release.


Valley Girl - 3.5/10
The first hour of this movie is amazing. Awesome soundtrack too.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 26, 2021, 05:20:35 AM »
DIRTY WORK IS BETTER THAN FIGHT CLUB
...Or so the Germans would have us believe.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Long Goodbye (1973)
« on: September 24, 2021, 12:29:41 AM »
I watched the Kino bluray last night. I think the transfer could be improved with a 4K scan. I also skimmed through the McCabe bluray, and it was the better transfer by quite a bit (a 4K scan). I'm assuming that the flashing technique would effect McCabe more since the interiors are generally very dark.

The Long Goodbye somehow gets better with every view and if it's not in my unofficial top 10 all time, it's right there. I have no issue buying it for a third time if the transfer takes a noticeable bump. Then I'd buy it again in the future if there's a good UHD release whenever I buy a PS5 (which has a 4K bluray player).

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Other Films / Re: The Naked Spur (1953)
« on: September 22, 2021, 04:17:41 PM »
https://www.hometheaterforum.com/the-naked-spur-blu-ray-review/

I hope this is true. My copy is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I'll check it then.

Without having any real knowledge of how this movie was shot, it does look like one of those 50's technicolor movies where the quality could take a huge jump on bluray. You can tell from the DVD or watching it on TCM that it has more of a 3-Strip feel, though it wasn't shot in that format.

Edit: The movie was shot in 3-strip, my fault.

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Other Films / Re: The Professionals (1966)
« on: September 22, 2021, 04:11:47 PM »
I didn't know if Kinski was on some TV show or something and was cast for the German market.

I guess I don't know enough about European audiences more than 50 years ago, but GBU not grossing the most money is surprising. Especially if the movies were released at least a year apart, which the first two would build something of a fanbase by the third movie's release.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 22, 2021, 04:02:14 PM »
Fight Club (1999) - Where is this movie's mind? While it certainly feels, and sure as hell looks like some type of masterwork, it's one gigantic narrative cheat and not very bright. The book and subsequent movie are the type of works that spring up when times are generally pretty damn good -- though I'll give this movie credit for nailing and lampooning that strange late 90's/early 2000's Limp Bizkit/Woodstock '99 era. But so many of those kids misunderstood this movie, and what's actually to be understood, isn't very thought provoking. But it's masterfully shot outside of those dated CGI zooms of wires. B


Dirty Work (1998) - Yeah, well, things could be worse, you know....I could have got my nose bit off by a Saigon whore! RIP Norm

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