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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 23, 2020, 02:54:32 PM »
I'm firmly on the right side of the coming-of-age debate. I tortured myself and watched a scene from Lady Bird. Yuck. 


Here was my mini review from a few months back. I don't know if you'll like it.

2 Days in the Valley (1996) - This had to be sold/greenlit as Pulp Fiction meets Short Cuts and while this badly misses its intended target, it's still an interesting and entertaining miss with a mostly solid ensemble cast. The plot is goofy and illogical at many points but I would recommend this to anyone that enjoys the Altman Nashville type of movie - just keep the expectations low. C+

Exactly, I wasn't expecting much and was entertained.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 22, 2020, 04:58:00 PM »
Anything else you can tell us? Does it have a story?

The Story

Night. Mulholland Drive. A dirt turnoff. 1984 Buick Century. Two contract killers. One, a four-eyed  whack job named Lee "one minute" Wood. The other, an overweight, toup wearing, has been named Dosmo Pizzo. Currently flipping pizza at some Valley pizzeria.

Its Lee's gig. Dosmo is his backup. Its an uneasy and unlikely business relationship.

Dosmo Pizzo: How did you find me?

Lee Woods: In the phone book under Washout.

Dosmo Pizzo: Hey, you go through a little dry spell, what's it make? It makes you stronger.

They are surveilling the house of American Olympic Skier Becky Foxx. They watch with binoculars and eavesdrop over a bug. Her ex-husband Roy has stopped by and is trying to make the moves on her.

When things quite down Lee and Dosmo make their move. The drop down the hill to the back of the house. Break in. In the bedroom, Becky and Roy are asleep on the bed.  Lee pulls out a large hypodermic and stabs it into the ass of Becky. It's a trank. Becky's out. But Roy awakened by the jolt, finds Domso's revolver stuck in his mouth.

Lee takes over, hops onto Roy's chest, pulls out a stop watch and starts it.

Lee Woods:  You have one minute to decide the rest of your life.

Lee asks Roy about a relationship with Helga Svelgen. Wants to know if they did it. Thinking it might save him Roy answers yes. Lee blows his brains out.

Later, parked at an abandoned building site with an old pool that overlooks The Valley.  A settling of accounts. Dosmo is the patsy. Lee shoots him. Fakes evidence to make it look like the suicide of an addict. Then opens the trunk and sets a timer that will blow the gas tank of the Century.

A 1993 Buick Park Avenue pulls up driven by Helga Svelgen. Lee hops in. They make out.

Meanwhile, a bullet proof vest wearing Dosmo is not dead. He's exited the Century and is surrying down the hill, and into the back yard of Allan Hopper. Hooper is a dealer in high end new age kitsch.

At Hoopers, Dosmo takes Hooper and his assistant Susan Parish hostage and decides to hold out there until all the police activity brought on by the car explosion dies down. Hooper who is suffering from kidney stones, had prior to Dosmos arrival called his sister Audrey who is a nurse for her medial advice.

While all the above is going on, Teddy Peppers a forgotten ,writer/director, four months behind on his rent is contemplating suicide. While he is about to pull the trigger at the grave of his mother he spots Audrey who is visiting the grave of her boyfriend on the way to see her brother Allan. Teddy has a dog and it's his concern for his companion that spurs Teddy to ask Audrey if she wants to take the dog off his hands. One thing leads to another and Teddy hops in with Audrey.

Two Valley police officers on a mission to bust massage parlors come upon a hysterical Becky who had awakened splattered in blood laying next to Roy with his brains blown out. All these various storylines trickle together entertainingly Streaming

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Other Films / Re: American Western Index
« on: September 22, 2020, 04:51:23 PM »
Hey Joe

I posted a new AW review.
Can you link it in the Index?
Thx
Bruce

Yes

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 22, 2020, 01:46:18 PM »
2 Days In The Valley (1996) Written and Directed by John Herzfeld. Cinematography by Oliver Wood and Music by Anthony Marinelli. Film Editing was by Jim Miller and Wayne Wahrman.   

The film stars Danny Aiello (Once Upon A Time In America, Do the Right Thing, L?on: The Professional ) as Dosmo Pizzo, Greg Cruttwell as Allan Hopper, Jeff Daniels (The Lookout) as Alvin Strayer, Teri Hatcher as Becky Foxx, Glenne Headly (Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Dick Tracy) as Susan Parish, Peter Horton as Roy Foxx, Marsha Mason as Audrey Hopper, Paul Mazursky (Blackboard Jungle) as Teddy Peppers, James Spader (Sex, Lies, and Videotape, Storyville) as Lee Woods, Eric Stoltz as Wes Taylor, Charlize Theron as Helga Svelgen, Keith Carradine (McCabe & Mrs. Miller, Emperor of the North, Pretty Baby) as Detective Creighton, Louise Fletcher (One Flew Over The ) Cuckoo's Nest, Mulholland Falls ) as Evelyn and Classic Noir vet Lawrence Tierney as Older Man.

Somehow I missed it first go round - entertaining 8/10

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Eddie Constantine
« on: September 17, 2020, 06:28:02 PM »
An interesting observation, Eddie Constantine was a sort of precursor to the Eastwood phenomena. An American actor goes to Europe and becomes a big star, only with Eddie it never crossed the Atlantic and caught on here. Like Eastwood, Eddie made three films in rapid succession (Ill stick with the English titles), Poison Ivy, This Man Is Dangerous, and Dames Get Along 1953-54. The next one was called Diamond Machine (1955) but I can't find it anywhere. The fifth film wasn't till five years later Women Are Like That (1960) (streaming Amazon Prime) and this film is starting to get a bit more comedic, i.e. Lemmys fistfights which were always a bit over the top are more burlesqued example, He hits a heavy who goes careening down a hall like a pinball bouncing from side to side and finally crashing through a door.   

This reminds me of how Spaghetti Westerns went from serious Western to the political Zapata Westerns to comedy Westerns. Its possible these international spy flicks did the same thing in the fifties and they seemed to repeat in the sixties with James Bond, Matt Helm, and Derek Flint.
 
There are 10 Caution novels by Peter Cheyney. There are 10 Caution films in all, nine of which star Constantine, and of those, six are based on the novels.




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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 15, 2020, 09:36:39 AM »
Dames Don't Care (Les femmes s'en balancent) (1954) French-Italian Noir



The 3rd Lemmy Caution flick.

Like the first directed again by Bernard Borderie. The writing credits are Bernard Borderie for the adaptation of  Peter Cheyney's novel. Additional dialogue was by Jacques Vilfrid and Bernard Borderie. Cinematography was by Jacques Lemare. Music was by Paul Misraki.

The stars are Eddie Constantine as Selby Frayme / Lemmy Caution, Nadia Gray as Henrietta Aymes, Dominique Wilms as Paulette Burdell, Robert Berri as Fernandez / Jean Termiglio, Dar?o Moreno as Perera, the Head Waiter of Casa Antica, Nicolas Vogel as Jim Maloney, Fran?ois Perrot as Langdon Burdell, Paul Aza?s as the watchman at the Bridge, Guy Henry as Daredo, Paulette's Friend, Emilio Carrer as Dr. Madrales, Gil Delamare as Sagers, Dominique Bukar as B?nito Burdell, Georgette Anys as Mrs. Martinguez, Martine Alexis, and Robert Burnieras Metts, the Police Chief.

The Story

Desert looking. Aloe Vera. Parched ground. Southern Italian coast. Early Evening. You hear it long before you see it.

1950 Oldsmobile Futuramic 98 Convertible Coupe Deluxe. Horn blaring. Tools down the scrub land bordered two lane. Turns off and goes up the entrance road to the Casa Antica.

The Coupe Deluxe is dusty. Sun oxidized. A Dull finish. The doorman runs over and lifts the hood.

The American Oldsmobile contains the burlesqued epitome of the "Ugly American" a loud mouth drunk. A VO tells us its FBI agent "Lemmy" Caution. The doorman pops the hood and pulls the horn connection plug. The blaring stops. Lemmy tells him not to touch anything else. He then announces loudly that "Me? I'M gonna tank up," he pivots and stumbles off towards the entrance leaving his lights on.

Cheap rumba music, heavy on bongos and horns.

Lemmy's style of drunk walk is the one where you lean in the direction you want to go and just when you are about to fall on your face you're legs and feet instinctively go into survival mode and propel you along while you lurch side to side grabbing support from whatever is within range.

The Casa Antica is a mostly alfresco night club, a high end kitsch version of an ancient "beer" garden set among fountains, faux Greco-Roman ruins of marble blocks, broken columns,and statuary. All that, is Frankenstein-ly attached to a bleak Italian Modern bar/kitchen building, with a full casino on the second floor.

Lemmy grips a broken pillar leans way out towards the maitre d and waves a hello. The maitre d steps over, leans into Lemmy and asks....

Maitre d : Table for one sir?
Lemmy [waving him off while letting go and stumbling on to the dance floor yells out] : The best table. [walks into a couple on the dance floor and putting his hands on the mans back] The best whiskey. [he sits down at an empty table] And the best seat.


Lemmy  watches his contact FBI agent Sagers. He's the one  dancing with an older woman that Lemmy bumped into. The club waiter arrives with a glass, an ice bucket, and whiskey bottle. Lemmy grabs the bottle, the waiter stands there. Lemmy tells him "Ya getting in my way. Get lost"

Lemmy turns back to Sagers, Lemmy calls him an old gigolo. Sagers stops dancing and goes over to Lemmy.

Sagers : I didn't hear you right.
Lemmy : Sure you did, I called you an old gigolo
Sagers : You mind stepping out.

As Sagers turns Lemmy sticks out his leg and trips him. They fight. With Lemmy throwing wild haymakers. Eventually Sagers lands a right hook. Lemmy decked. Lemmy declares out loud that he takes it all back, Sagers is a real man, and he'll buy him a drink. Lemmy grabs his whiskey bottle, tells the waiter to bring another, and then shakes Sagers hand.

Sagers and Lemmy sit at a table and before they can talk the same waiter arrives with another bottle. Lemmy stares at him and tells him again to get lost.

Lemmy is not drunk after all. Lemmy tells Saugers his cover name is Selby Frayme. Sagers tells him that he thinks he's been around too long. Lemmy asks about the letters. Saugers tells he they should be at Henrietta Aymes' house and he passes Henrietta's key to Lemmy. Lemmy asks about the phony dollars. They are looking for the source of counterfeit U.S. thousand dollar bills. Saugers tells him nothing new. Lemmy says that tomorrow he'll get a cable, hes being reassigned to the New York office and and himself, Lemmy is taking over. At that moment Henrietta herself makes the scene. She and her escort walk across the dance floor and up the stairs to the casino.

Lemmy tells Sagers no hard feelings and gets up. He pinballs off another couple dancing. He careens towards the maitre d. Lemmy waves and wobbles a "So long chubby," while grabbing his lapel. "See ya around." While the maitre d fixes his jacket. Lemmy waves a, wait a minute, finger in the air and gives the maitre d a big tip. Lemmy tells him "buono sera" (good night in Italian) pirouettes, and stumbles out.

So ends the hilarious opening sequence of the English language release of Dames Don't Care. Available to stream on Amazon Prime. Again wasn't expecting much and was pleasantly surprised 7/10.

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OK I'll Play

 The Irishman 8/10
 Shutter Island 7/10
 The Departed 7/10
 The Aviator 8/10
 Gangs of New York 8/10
 Casino 10/10
 The Age of Innocence 7/10
 Cape Fear 6/10
 Goodfellas 10/10
 The Last Temptation of Christ 5/10
 The Color of Money 6/10
 After Hours 7/10
 The King of Comedy 7/10
 Raging Bull 7/10
 Taxi Driver 10/10
 Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore 6/10
 Mean Streets 7/10
 Boxcar Bertha 6/10
 Who's That Knocking at My Door 7/10

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 08, 2020, 03:00:48 PM »
Rewatched Oliver Stone's U-Turn (1997) I'll up my rating to an 8/10.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Eli Wallach
« on: September 06, 2020, 04:31:27 AM »
Voted!

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Getaway (1994)
« on: September 04, 2020, 03:18:47 AM »
How was the editing?

The editing wasn't much different from the original that I could tell.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Eddie Constantine
« on: August 25, 2020, 03:24:02 AM »


Cet homme est dangereux (This Man Is Dangerous) (1953) Eddie Constantine's second outing as Lemmy Caution. Lemmy Caution escapes a Kansas Penitentiary and heads to France to thwart a planned kidnapping of a young American Heiress who is hanging out on the riviera gambling on a private yacht. The owner of the yacht is working with local mobster Siegella Gr?goire Aslan whose M.O. is to always wears gloves so that he never leaves a trace.

Again, I wasn't expecting much so was again pleasantly surprised. Poison Ivy the first Caution flick was directed by Bernard Borderie he showed a flair for on location shooting and the first film had a lot of atmosphere.

This second Caution flick was directed by Jean Sacha who also shows some style but this one is lighter in atmosphere and in this film the back and forth dialogue between Eddie the various women and the gangsters is a bit snappier and more humorous. The Siegella gang hangs out (like El Indios gang) in a deserted monastery. Eddie fakes being drunk like Eastwood in Fistfull, There is a good copy available on DVD from Video Dimensions with English Subs, 7/10

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Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: According to Jack Elam
« on: August 22, 2020, 04:08:32 AM »
I've heard that same story dozens of times with different names. With some variation s
In fact, a HOLLYWOOD composer told me the exact same thing personally.

Must be like a Hollywood Version of an Urban Legend.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: August 17, 2020, 05:00:18 PM »


Cet homme est dangereux (This Man Is Dangerous) (1953) Eddie Constantine's second outing as Lemmy Caution. Lemmy Caution escapes a Kansas Penitentiary and heads to France to thwart a planned kidnapping of a young American Heiress who is hanging out on the riviera gambling on a private yacht. The owner of the yacht is working with local mobster Siegella Gr?goire Aslan whose M.O. is to always wears gloves so that he never leaves a trace.

Again, I wasn't expecting much so was again pleasantly surprised. Poison Ivy the first Caution flick was directed by Bernard Borderie he showed a flair for on location shooting and the first film had a lot of atmosphere.

This second Caution flick was directed by Jean Sacha who also shows some style but this one is lighter in atmosphere and in this film the back and forth dialogue between Eddie the various women and the gangsters is a bit snappier and more humorous. The Siegella gang hangs out (like El Indios gang) in a deserted monastery. Eddie fakes being drunk like Eastwood in Fistfull, There is a good copy available on DVD from Video Dimensions with English Subs, 7/10


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Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: According to Jack Elam
« on: August 16, 2020, 06:14:48 AM »
;D ;D ;D

Where is it from?

Supposed to be from an interview

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Once Upon A Time In The West / According to Jack Elam
« on: August 16, 2020, 03:03:51 AM »
According to Jack Elam, there are five stages to a character actor?s career: (1) Who is Jack Elam? (2) Get me Jack Elam. (3) Get me a Jack Elam. (4) Get me a young Jack Elam. (5) Who?s Jack Elam?

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