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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Guilty Bystander (1950)
« on: Yesterday at 07:14:43 AM »
$2.00 last I checked

Other Films / Re: Vamos a matar, compaƱeros aka Companeros (1970)
« on: September 27, 2023, 06:43:59 PM »
Let us know if you get it and what you think about it when you read it.  8)

Once Upon A Time In America / Re: OUATIA 35mm Trailer
« on: September 25, 2023, 06:14:13 PM »

I've never seen this edit before.

Check out the rest of this guy's channel too, great stuff

Yea what Drink said.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Li'l Duce's Reviews Palace
« on: September 22, 2023, 03:28:30 AM »
Gunn (1967) Unfortunately couldn't find subtitles so I lost about 50% of the dialogues and couldn't make out the why and wherefore of the schemer's plot. but I can tell that this is based on rehashing of  old material: see the first episode of the Gunn series itself (, the Spillane's "Juno was a man" trick; even the final song is an unashamed steal from  The Vogues Five O'Clock World. The problem with all these movies made in the mid- sixties is that they lack grittiness, they all look too slick, both as to locales and as to characters. And I include the Harpers, the Tony Romes and the rest. It will be Don Siegel who, gradually, will change the look of the detective stories starting from Madigan, through Coogan's Bluff and finally with Dirty Harry, the first of the new breed.  Edwards tries to include some Bondism (the moronic kill with the spear gun), some  nudity, some torture (the squash) but all subdued and unimpressive. Still the plot, as far as I could make out, was intriguing and the rhythm was good. Halfway between 6-7/10.

The copy I saw was the American cut.

I'm thinking they were probably re-using some of the old material because they were trying to jumpstart a Peter Gunn 2.0 TV series for the 1960s. I agree it's a 6-7/10. The International cut is supposed to have some more nudity than the US cut. (there are a few stills online of Sherry Jackson from the film with a tie in to a Playboy spread)

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 15, 2023, 02:03:19 PM »
I don't know revolvers. 

And I don't know how many railroads crossed to the west in 1883, but in first episode some settlers said the train to Oregon from Texas/wherever was expensive.

At least 3 in 1883

The Southern Pacific Railroad was completed in 1881.

1881: the SP met the Rio Grande, Mexico and Pacific Railroad (a subsidiary of the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe Railway) with a "silver spike" ceremony at Deming, New Mexico

January 12, 1883: the SP completed its own southern section, meeting its subsidiary Galveston, Harrisburg and San Antonio Railway at the Pecos River in Texas, and linking New Orleans to Los Angeles.

The Atlantic and Pacific Railroad completed its route connecting the AT&SF at Albuquerque, New Mexico, via Flagstaff, Arizona, to the Southern Pacific at Needles, California, on August 9, 1883.

The Northern Pacific Railway (NP) completed the fifth independent transcontinental railroad on August 22, 1883, linking Chicago with Seattle.

The Great Northern Railway was built, without federal aid, by James J. Hill in 1893; it stretched from St. Paul to Seattle.

the last one In 1909, the Chicago, Milwaukee & St. Paul (or Milwaukee Road) completed a privately built Pacific extension to Seattle. On completion, the line was renamed the Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul and Pacific

General Discussion / Re: What genre of film ?
« on: September 11, 2023, 05:12:00 AM »
What genre of film do you think would have suited Leone's style? (e.g., war, disaster, musical, romantic comedy, etc.) Additionally, is there a particular existing film that you wish Leone had directed instead?

I think I remember Luciano Vincenzoni being quoted in Frayling that he was urging Leone to do a small film a Noir in between DYS and OUTIA

Duck, You Sucker / Re: Saw Fistful of dynamite for the first time
« on: September 08, 2023, 01:22:45 PM »
No it's just the new generation of spam bots. They post a few "cohesive" posts and sometimes slide a spam link in the post.

I deleted the links. But the original question (about new members) is that they'd have to be new members that are joining the board (I don't get any new member notices), not some type of sleeper account that's been dormant.

I'm automatically signed in, is there still a mechanism to join the board, I don't even know that. lol

Duck, You Sucker / Re: Saw Fistful of dynamite for the first time
« on: September 08, 2023, 07:16:43 AM »
So how "natural" it seems at first glance but on closer inspection it doesn't really express an actual idea? Only vague terms associated with Leone and a bad movie critic way to piece the sentence together. AI generated content, NOWADAYS, cannot create. It can just imitate cohesiveness.

Don't expect me to pay that much attention on here, lol. I'm never going to give a post that closer inspection.

I still don't understand the point of it. Are you saying that some one directed A.I to create a fake name account so it can post here? Why? The other problem is I don't approve new members as far as I know the webpage is on auto pilot.

Duck, You Sucker / Re: Saw Fistful of dynamite for the first time
« on: September 08, 2023, 06:37:49 AM »
kelseyradley's posts for instance. As well as pauldupont's ones. Those are ai generated. Those aren't real humans talking here. I'm also more and more convinced Drink's post are written by a broken AI.


So AI is getting interested in Leone. Interesting, but for what?

btw HOW can you tell, and what gives it away.

Duck, You Sucker / Re: Saw Fistful of dynamite for the first time
« on: September 07, 2023, 06:52:57 PM »
Isn't there any way to flag this AI stuff and get it deleted?


Sergio Leone News / Re: This guy really loves Sergio Leone
« on: September 04, 2023, 04:32:22 PM »

Nice. I did notice something that I never noticed before when discussing OUTIA. He shows a clip of the scene just before Domenic gets it at DUMBO because of the way he edited it I noticed the high rise apartment building on the left that looks a bit too modern for the 1920s. BTW that apartment house is on the other side of the East River a half mile away. Normally your focus is on the kids if you watch the film.

General Discussion / Re: Any point of view?
« on: August 31, 2023, 04:03:58 AM »
I think if you wait long enough say 100 years the studio can reinvent the genre after nobody is left alive who remembers what they were like in the first place. You may be able to say, create a Steampunk Fantasy Western, kind of like The Wild Wild West, where you know from the get go that it's in some parallel Western Universe.   

General Discussion / Re: Any point of view?
« on: August 31, 2023, 03:59:21 AM »
I'm employed by a small production company at Warner Bros. I've been hearing persistent rumors about a potential revival of the Western (SW) genre. I've noticed that Mal Paso, Clint Eastwood's production company, is also located here on the lot. I'm curious to know if they have any involvement in this. Some of the speculation suggests that if such a revival were to occur, the film might be shot in Europe with a foreign crew, and there might also be the approval of Leone's son. I'm wondering if any of you have come across similar information or rumors regarding this matter.

I haven't heard any rumors and I haven't seen any recent Westerns save Blackthorn which really impressed me and that was more visually rather than from the performances. And it's because they come off like costume dramas rather than what we came to expect as the "real" thing. When Westerns were a real thing NYC Studio's and Hollywood had been making them since 1903. It went through to the 1980s with TV Westerns reinforcing the "thing."

The Western is done, we have more immigrants now, and right wing conservatives and religious fanatics have appropriated the Western and its look, they would like to go back to the days of Harry Carey, John Wayne, Ward Bond. It's a big turn off as a result to a wide variety of people.

We had a thread about it.

Agree looks really good.

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