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The Dollars More disc, Dave, just look more pleasing to you because it's from an old transfer, and you are used to colors from old video transfers. It's still total crap unlike the prints (which I have seen several times in the cinemas), which are closer to the look of the new GBU. The new Kino UHD is not 100% there and indeed, you can see that ugly teal behind trying to pop up over the color correction, but it's nearly there.

I would say the regular Blu is sightly worse than the UHD though, the UHD is the way to go.

The original german FOD (or the italian variation) also closely ressemble the prints, only they are incapacitated by the old limitation of then scan transfers.

The best is yet to come. As long as Ritrovittata don't get involved!

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Kino Lorber 2 - Disc 4K Blu-ray 2017
« on: February 12, 2021, 02:06:44 PM »
One step at a time!

A Fistful of Dollars / Re: New Kino Lorber FOD DVD/BRD
« on: June 05, 2017, 02:27:02 AM »
Wasn't Tarantino present at the Cannes screening? He said his own print looked better than this restored shit.

When asked they say it's from La Traviatta who found it.
La Variatta doesn't say anything about it, so I suspect it might be taken from the fan print.
We'll see if it differs.

I think the skeleton scene is the one posted online.
The way they word the source, it too obscure. I think La Traviatta ripped it and probably conned Kino by selling it to them. It's pretty obvious.

I'm fine with another variation, however, it would be great if they deleted that crap grotto scene from the extended version.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Original intermission
« on: February 17, 2017, 01:28:22 PM »
I saw those intermissions in France. There were intermission cards there.

If there was no card, it's not real, it's theater decided intermission at random.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Original intermission
« on: February 15, 2017, 01:15:50 AM »
Hi guys, just noticed this thread. It's good to know that every Leone film had an intermission, at least in it's original form.

FOD happens around 50mn after Clint gets his money.

FOFDM is when Manco wants to go for a full night sleep. The music cuts abruptly because their was an intermission card there.

GBU I dunno but there was definetly one.


DYS I saw in the cinema with an intermission too, I remember I went for a pee. Forget where it was, I was a kid.

OUATIA of course had one, it's the same one that was on the original VHS tapes.

If you want a true Leone presentation, all those intermission cards needs to be put back in. They give a different feel to the films.

The original version will never be issued on Blu.

My guess is someone will recut the new Blu to fit the original 1998 DVD mono tracks, and that will be it.

Someone report here that the mono track is the same old 5.1 downmix track  >:D

General Discussion / Sergio Leone Blu-ray thread @HTF
« on: July 21, 2013, 10:18:07 AM »
There's a nice thread over there at HTF that obviously is trying to redeem the Leone films so that  they are re-released correctly done on Blu.

I feel you should all join and drop a line or more, it could be good to have all the info on those botched Blu-rays all in one place, so that it can be shove them into John Jerk throat and finally get the master the releases he deserves.

"Originally, (Once Upon a Time in America) was to have been filmed in Cinemascope, but after the first tests with Tonino Delli Colli, Leone changed his mind. One reason, he said, was that a lot of 1980s cinemas were no longer adequately equipped to film scenes in 'scope, and the results could be fuzzy at the edges and ill-defined. Another was that Leone had the misfortune to watch Once Upon a Time in the West on television, in an American hotel room, with Delli Colli. It was a pan and scan print, which made it look like a lot of big faces with no background: 'a total mess', Delli Colli recalls. Since the days of Once Upon a Time in the West, the video revolution had occurred as well -- not to mention the spread of television ownership, and the proliferation of channels across Italy. All in all, Leone felt it was best that America be shot in the standard 1.85:1 aspect ratio instead of his trademark letterbox."

Thank you for this quote, my point is, widescreen 2.35 was the intended ratio (before actual shooting), and I noticed that chopping it up in VLC using the crop feature, on most shots, make absolutely the film look like the Leones of old. (on the shots that don't work, it's just a matter of framing it properly). The composition are all made like the old films compositions.

We all know Leone shot it squared because of the way VHS and TV cropped his movies.

Now, it's time to restore Once Upon A Time In America in 2.35:1 format. Try it with VLC player at home, and suddenly, you can see how Leone shot it the same way as the old techniscope films.

A fan edit in widescreen would be great. Anyone in ? I want my whole Once Upon trilogy in the same format  ;)

Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: OUATITW Restoration
« on: April 02, 2008, 12:08:18 AM »
Hi FC you probably saw a regular print "restored" back in 2003, I don't think it was the new print, the colors would have leaped at you.

Once Upon A Time In America / Re: NEW DIRECTORS CUT
« on: February 12, 2008, 03:08:09 PM »
This guys is stupid. A 35mm frame is 4 to 8 times superior in resolution to 1080p video, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT AND HIS ON DRUGS OR PAID OFF BY THE BLU RAY ALLIANCE TO SPEAK TRASH.

Once Upon A Time In America / Re: NEW DIRECTORS CUT
« on: February 10, 2008, 09:37:00 AM »
This guy is dumb. He is saying a movie shot on 35mm 20 years ago cannot look as good as a movie shot on 35mm today.

It's like saying that someone making a drawing 20 years ago, cannot scan on digital as good as the same drawing drawn today. idiot.

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