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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: The ubiquitous GBU sound...
« on: September 17, 2018, 06:57:31 PM »
Yeh -  thanks for sharing. Very good.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Changes at The Oscars Ceremony
« on: September 12, 2018, 10:24:09 AM »
Auteur alert! ;)

I'm going to shamelessly quote myself in the concluding paragraph to my "Who Directed My Name is Nobody?" article in response to that:

In L’Abruzzo e il cinema, Leone notes with frustration that “I just wanted to be his consultant on the basis of the experience I had accumulated in cinema over many years” but that “only in editing did Tonino become more accepting”. Leone further refers to himself as “a producer of the old Hollywood style”; the implied creative responsibility is still reflected in the bestowal of the Academy Award for Best Picture to the producer rather than the director. This contrasts with the European practice, best epitomised by the Palme d’or at Cannes, where the honour is awarded to the director in accordance with the notion, introduced in Cahiers du cinéma in the 1950s, of the director as the “auteur” (author) of the film. It is fitting that a film shot in two parts across the United States and Europe, based on a thematic contrast between the American and Italian, or more broadly European, take on the Western, should have its ultimate accreditation similarly divided. Tonino Valerii was undoubtedly the director of this European (Italo-Franco-German) production, but Sergio Leone, in his classical American approach to production, was its auteur.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Year of the Dragon (1985)
« on: September 07, 2018, 11:23:23 AM »
I know a lot of people do not appreciate it, but The Sunchaser is still one of my favorite movies.

I watched the French DVD release of "Sunchaser" since it is a really nice print and an anamorphic DVD.

The quality of what I watched compared with how the release was handled (i.e. almost immediately relegated to home video) is pretty remarkable. While it's probably Cimino's weakest or second weakest work, that isn't necessarily much of a criticism given how great most his oeuvre actually is. There are some great Cimino visual touches in this one along with some breathtaking cinematography.

However, what very seriously lets the film down is the absolutely abysmal dialogue. For a visual stylist like Cimino to completely forget the basic axiom of "show don't tell" is quite surprising, although to be frank his greatest strength was always visual composition regardless of anything else (I remember some real issues with dialogue/acting in "Year of the Dragon"). Someone really needed to sit down with this script like the rumor has it that Eastwood did to FOD for Leone and just pull put 3/4 of the dialogue. Dialogue being one of those salient things that critics can get their teeth into (unlike any of the more technical aspects) undoubtedly accounts for why this bombed so badly. I have a good mind to watch this again with the audio off, or at the very least adjusted to dial up the other sounds at the expense of speech, to see if it plays better.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Changes at The Oscars Ceremony
« on: September 07, 2018, 06:41:19 AM »
They might want to reconsider the Best Picture versus Best Director Oscar too. History has shown it has very often been difficult to disentangle the two.

General Discussion / Re: Sergio Leone French Interviews 1969 1972 & 1974
« on: August 28, 2018, 06:25:45 AM »
Thank you so much for posting these.

Well there we have it, in 1969 Leone was not thinking about DYS at all as part of a trilogy; OUATIA was going to follow OUATITW. Then in 1972 he is envisioning DYS as the 2nd part of the trilogy.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Orson Welles
« on: August 25, 2018, 01:54:19 PM »
Methinks I'll be reactivating my Netflix account in November

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: August 10, 2018, 12:33:30 PM »
BL is without a doubt one of the most beautiful films ever made.

Yes - beautiful cinematography. Regarding the editing, Tony Lawson's comments on his role as being little more than a pair of hands are instructive. I'd love to see the interview with him on the BD when I get around to buying it.

The Colossus of Rhodes / Re: Remastered Blu-ray
« on: August 04, 2018, 06:57:02 PM »
Shame there's no option for the longer Italian cut.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Pool of London (1951)
« on: August 04, 2018, 06:56:01 PM »
Thanks for posting. I'd like to see a decent release of this too.

Criterion needs to get on the restoration.

You should e-mail Jon Mulvaney:

Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling?
« on: August 01, 2018, 09:30:58 PM »
Interesting, that people here really KNOW what each author in the world can do and
what he can't do :).  Where is all that mysterious universal knowledge coming from...

My experience (very niche even for academia and certainly not mass-market) has been a certain degree of input within the guidelines of the series within which it was being published.

Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling?
« on: August 01, 2018, 11:00:59 AM »
Yeah for a book that promises vast quantities of unseen photos, kinda funny that they use an image we've all seen a million times before...

It's a great image, but I couldn't agree more in that regard.

Sure he does. He just has no say in the matter.

That's not necessarily the case, although he can be forced to adopt a title and image he doesn't like if there is an impasse.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Deer Hunter (1978)
« on: July 26, 2018, 11:48:58 AM »
Finally, another critic who appreciates Cimino's visual brilliance:

“Of the American directors of so-called New Hollywood, Cimino was by far the most visually gifted."

He continues further down:

" 'The Deer Hunter' is the least visually distinguished of Cimino’s films (and that includes his mainly workmanlike remake of 'The Desperate Hours', from 1990), the one that’s most dominated by his script and by the showily earnest, quasi-Methodical, white-heat performances of its stars."

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: The Man Who Cheated Himself (1951)
« on: July 19, 2018, 10:47:17 AM »
You took that photo? If so, thats a GREAT shot.

Indeed - I love the symmetry of the glare in the top left with that in the bottom right.

I recall Eddier Muller once saying something like: In the 1940s, noir was about the cinematography; in the 1950s, it was more about the locations.

Note to self - stick mainly to 40s noir then...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (2019)
« on: June 30, 2018, 05:48:09 AM »
"Damian Lewis" as "Steve McQueen". That will be a tough role for him. Guess he'll be donning the American accent again.

It'll be interesting to see how Tarantino has developed his craft since the Hateful Eight.

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