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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: DJ and D&D Go to the Symphony
« on: October 24, 2021, 07:38:20 PM »

I'm watching the Pastoral again now cuz I'm gearing up for the show tonight at Carnegie Hall (DJ ditching me yet again)

https://www.carnegiehall.org/Calendar/2021/10/20/The-Philadelphia-Orchestra-0800PM

So Matinee Dave ditched me again Wednesday night as expected; I instead went to Carnegie Hall with Miss Upper West Side (#JustAFriend).

Fucking Carnegie Hall makes you show proof of vaccination AND wear a mask. I did the former, I absolutely did not do the latter, to the chagrin of the lame-asses who sat near me. I took double the pleasure in making the losers squirm.

Also, due to Covid, there's no intermission. I think they don;'t want people congregating. Don't drink before the show. Cuz you ain't pissing till it's over.

We sat three rows from the front of the balcony, dead center. Lately I am really enjoying Carnegie Hall balcony (the very top level - Level #5). The balcony overhangs the other levels, so if you get one of the front rows of the balcony you actually are not that far back, and you can see the entire orchestra. When I always used to sit in the floor, I could never see the wind instruments. Only problem is there ain't much leg room in the balcony.

The program was Beethoven's 4th & 6th Symphonies with The Philadelphia Orchestra conducted by Yannick N?zet-S?guin continuing its program of  afull cycle of Beethoven's symphonies, in a belated 250th birthday (which was actually in 2020, postponed due to Covid).
The 4th isn't on any list of greatest symphonies, I always thought it was kind of jokey and was never much into it, but to tell the truth, it wasn't a terrible opener. I was able to enjoy it.

At the previous show, as I mentioned, Yannick had to play some piece about global fucking warming, supposedly inspired by Beethoven, and gave this speech about how we play Beethoven but we also gotta play the contemporaries with their social justice shit. The show last week was  (gasp!) only Beethoven, but Yannick had to take the microphone and speak apologetically about only playing Beethoven and assure us that he would in fact play other pieces at future Beethoven shows, and assure us that the Pastoral was in fact about social justice. I made my displeasure with his speech plainly known to everyone in my section. Now Miss Upper West Side was squirming.

Anyway, we finally got to the Pastoral, and it's one of the greatest versions I've ever heard. Particularly, I like the third movement played very quickly; and I think this was the quickest I'd heard it. It was an amazing performance.

Oh, I gotta mention something else about Yannick: He walks onto the stage with a mask. Takes it off for the show. Then puts it back on as he walks off the stage. Then comes back on for his standing ovation, and takes it back off. So I guess he can't catch Covid while on stage, but can catch it while walking off and standing backstage? Oh, and half the string section was wearing masks. Of course, we all know you can give someone Covid while playing the violin but not blowing the oboe.

Anyway, nevermind the he conducts in leggings, does weird shit with masks, and most infuriatingly has to turn Beethoven into some sort of social justice warrior. When he's actually just conducting the orchestra, he's actually terrific. Another great show!

Next up, November 9: Beethoven's 8th & 7th Symphonies (of course, with some contemporary piece sandwiched in middle. (We already had the global warming piece, so I guess this is probably about transphobia or affirmative action or why everyone should wear masks for the rest of their lives.)

DJ and I once went to the 7th & 8th a few years ago in Lincoln Center. Like most people, DJ prefers the 7th. It's really famous and popular. The 8th is Beethoven's shortest symphony and not nearly as famous. I am in the minority: I'm actually going because of the 8th. I really like it. I have little use for the 7th.

So what'll it be, Matinee Dave? You in for a night show this time or out again?





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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: The Skeleton
« on: October 24, 2021, 05:59:03 PM »
Yeah, never heard it before.

I do recall Frayling saying that though it?s supposed to be the soldier Arch Stanton, it?s actually a female skeleton. But never heard about whether it?s a real skeleton of a real actress etc.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 21, 2021, 07:56:50 AM »
It's a movie I love every other time I watch it, and that disappoints me the other time. It's a also a movie I keep returning to.

I have watched it once, have little interest in re-watching.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: DJ and D&D Go to the Symphony
« on: October 20, 2021, 11:39:01 AM »


(My favorite version of the "Pastoral" is with Michele Merrill conducting the Detroit Symphony Orchestra https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75OMvblyD-Q I like it cuz the first and third movements are fast, which I think is appropriate here.)



That link is no longer available on YouTube, but the show can be viewed on the DSO's website for free; you need to make a free account

https://livefromorchestrahall.vhx.tv/10-years-of-live-from-orchestra-hall-concerts-from-the-archives/videos/ludwig-van-beethoven-symphony-no-6-in-f-major-op-68-pastoral

I'm watching the Pastoral again now cuz I'm gearing up for the show tonight at Carnegie Hall (DJ ditching me yet again)

https://www.carnegiehall.org/Calendar/2021/10/20/The-Philadelphia-Orchestra-0800PM

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 18, 2021, 10:53:50 PM »
2021: DJ need to make excuses for why shitty movies are really good.

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 17, 2021, 10:58:00 PM »
Interesting that you watched a Demy film recently. Mrs. Jenkins and I saw two on Sunday night: Une Chambre en Ville (1982) and The Young Girls of Rochefort (1967). The first isn't very good but we had to watch it because my wife is a huge Dominique Sanda fan. The second is probably my favorite musical of all time--I've seen it maybe 20 times, but I have to keep returning to it because of the music.

I don't like Lola much. Much better is the one Demy made immediately afterwards, Bay of Angels, with Claude Mann and Jeanne Moreau. You really should see that one--although the dumb happy ending in that will really REALLY piss you off. LOL.


I just watched BAY OF ANGELS. It was absolute shit. Not that LOLA is great, but definitely better than BAY OF ANGELS.

(This will contain SPOILERS)

So this guy (Claude Mann) discovers gambling and goes off to the Riviera, where he meets a degenerate gambler (Jeanna Moreau, bleach blonde  ::) ) they gamble, winning big, losing big, winning big, losing big, end up broke, he loves her, she doesn?t care much about him or anything else other than roulette, and at the end, in one of the most crappy happy endings ever, she falls into his arms. Bullmotherfuckingshit. A waste of culluloid

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Other Films / Re: Winchester '73 (1950)
« on: October 16, 2021, 09:07:57 PM »
MoMA has got this on DCP for a showing on Wednesday, Oct. 27 at 1 p.m. "This will be the first New York screening of the new 4K restoration of this classic, produced by Universal and the Film Foundation."
https://www.moma.org/calendar/events/7265

Drink, you in? Yeah, I know it's a work day, but call your penny-pinching boss and tell her you are taking a Persoanl Day for your health. What could be healthier for your mind than refreshing it with this old classic? Or you could lie and say you've got to do another interview with your buddy, the mayor. Whatever works. I don't want to go if you won't be able to make it, so don't disappoint me, you hear?

Not in, sorry. (And I?m not a big fan of this movie.)

Meanwhile, you keep ditching me for the symphony ?



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Once Upon A Time In America / Re: QT disses OUATIA
« on: October 12, 2021, 03:10:51 PM »
No. Everything went fine technically. But the crowd - mostly college age - was very vocal. I don't think they even bothered  with cards to fill out. Made the local paper. Supposedly De Niro and Alan Ladd Jr were there.
cool info

this was the long version?

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Once Upon A Time In America / Re: QT disses OUATIA
« on: October 12, 2021, 07:27:48 AM »
I was at the Boston preview that killed it off. De Niro underacts, Woods overacts (SURPRISE !), McGovern doesn't act at all. They're outdone by their kid counterparts. Only film where SL miscalculated his effect. Answer the phone already..... The rapes another matter.

I think De Niro had too much influence on him.

I recall Frayling mentioned something about a disastrous preview where the projector broke. The audience had not been made aware that the film was nearly 4 hours, then they announced it would be 4 hours and people groaned? and then the projector broke, so people had to wait even longer. Was that the one?

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: October 11, 2021, 04:01:41 AM »
The Guilty (2021) 5.5/10 [Netflix stream]

Jake Gyllenhaal plays a cop who has been demoted to answering 911 calls. He gets a call from a woman who has been kidnapped and has to coordinate a response. Crappy movie. Takes place entirely on the 911 set.

Was filmed during the pandemic in fall 2020, not sure how much that affected things. Remake of a Danish film https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guilty_(2021_film)

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: ZODIAC (2007) - a film by David Fincher
« on: October 07, 2021, 10:00:08 PM »

Let's discuss Zodiac.



Mark Ruffalo is a mediocre actor who jets around the world to protest global warming. There is the discussion  :)

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: ZODIAC (2007) - a film by David Fincher
« on: October 07, 2021, 09:56:32 PM »
We love Zodiac. Zodiac had no thread here. The people wanted a Zodiac thread. There is now a Zodiac thread.
Let's discuss Zodiac.


Are you gonna link to old discussions of this movie?  :o

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: DJ and D&D Go to the Symphony
« on: October 07, 2021, 09:55:21 PM »
Having attended live gigs with you, I know you're telling the truth.

Remember when we saw that awful play The Maids and afterward the idiot audience applauded? I booed louder than all the applause  ;D

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