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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Year of the Dragon (1985)
« on: September 13, 2005, 07:53:57 PM »
With Bach's Toccata Fugue in D minor funeral dirge going in the background, I can't help but think of New Orleans.  May she shake the dirt of off and rise up, "I'm not dead yet!"

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Angel eyes bad poker player !
« on: September 13, 2005, 07:46:56 PM »
One reason Leone still is so influential upon modern directors is that he made "movie movies" - the Trilogy had their own insane logic that made sense once you became immersed in them.  So purely realistic plot elements became subordinate to the surrealistic.  To paraphrase, "Badges?  We don't need no stinking badges!"

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For a Few Dollars More / Re: This part always blows me away everytime
« on: September 13, 2005, 07:40:50 PM »
It's in D minor, the saddest of all keys

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Monument Valley is one of the most amazing places on this planet, as cool as it looks on film it doesn't do justice to the immense scale of the place.  Those rock formations are HUGE.

Not sure where the noose arch is, or if it even exists. My guess would be that it was a temporary movie prop.  Even if it does exist you might now be able to see it anyway because MV is on Navajo reservation land and most of the grounds are off limits.

Plan on spending the night there - the way the light strikes the formations at sunrise and sunset can't be described.  Gauging by the colors and the shadows I think SL filmed the OATITW sequences at sunrise.  Bring lots of film/flash cards

Canyon de Chelly isn't that far, that's another amazing place.  Make sure you hike all the way down to the canyon floor.  In between the two I'd recommend driving the back roads like US 191 through Navajo territory, you won't see another car except for the occasional drunk Indian in a beatup pickup truck for hours and there's some mind boggling scenery on the way.   Beautiful road, not one pothole the whole way.

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General Discussion / Re: Leone in High Definition/Plasma
« on: August 24, 2005, 07:08:58 AM »
Theres's nothing wrong with CRT, but Plasma or LCD helps deal with space limitations.  I was looking at a DLP, but the set itself was huge - I've only got one area to place the TV and I could only fit a 27" Sony Wega before.   

To put a 42" DLP in there I would have literally had to have knocked at least a 3'x3' hole in the wall and have the rear of the TV poking into a closet.  Plasma you just hang it on a frame and pull the cables behind the drywall and voila.  You get a huge viewing area, and even more important the wife will buy into it.

Too bad about no HD content in the UK, you guys have had much better analog resolution all these years.   I take it you can't pull HD signals off of satellite?

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General Discussion / Re: Leone in High Definition/Plasma
« on: August 22, 2005, 03:08:11 PM »
.2:35 is my favourite ratio. I love the black bars on top and bottom, for a Western it adds such a large grandeur to the screen, of course your never going to replicate what you will see in the cinema. I must admit to enjoying talking about aspect ratios, the magic of Academy ratio (1.33:1) and more uncommon rations (1.19:1 and 2.2.40) to name a few.

General, even if a TV is in widescreen, letterboxed/Anamorphic  2:35  DVD's will have black bars on top and bottom. Sin City was presented in 1.85:1 which roughly matches the ratio of a TV  (which is more accuratly 1.75:1 which is what in the UK all television adverts must be presented as.) There will be no black bars on top or bottom of the screen (unless the 1.85:1 image is presented non-anamorphic/letterboxed and then you may have to zoom in the DVD at the risk of marginal cropping.

I work around aspect ratios and HD all day, and to help make it clearer I will post a description of the ratios which the editing suite have released.

HD is sadly not being broadcast in any format in the UK and I welcome its introduction, having seen it in action in the US and worked with it during editing. One day (if the HD DVD format will take off, which is will no doubt will) the Leone films will be presented in HD/Blueray (as it is Sony who owns the dollar trilogy) instead of the DVD downgrades that we have. However I am still a high proponent of film, I shoot HD but I would rather work with the admitedly more complicated but certainly much more asthetically pleasing celuloid.

You work in HD?  Very cool - I have seen the future and it is HD.  I've got cable feed and only 10 stations are HD (720p), that's the main reason I've been holding off because the broadcast content isn't quite there yet.  But now I'm a convert, even those 10 stations keep you riveted - the detail is simply amazing. 

This weekend I was watching schlock like Catwoman (Halle Berry  :P) and Less Than Zero and the Little League World Series till 3am just to gape at the picture.  Jeez, I'm sitting there counting eyelets in the shoes that the spectator in the stands at the baseball game is wearing.  And I'm just a casual TV/movie watcher, this stuff is crack.   

Don't get me wrong, SL is still great - but when you see all that big beautiful widescreen blackbarred out you feel you're missing something.  Letterboxing never bothered me on 4:3, but it's like going thru withdrawal on the plasma.

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General Discussion / Leone in High Definition/Plasma
« on: August 22, 2005, 01:31:10 PM »
Finally broke down and got a plasma to get ready for FOOTBALL SEASON!!!!!!

I'm telling you, these things will turn you into a total television zombie.  Was a beautiful weekend weather wise and I was just glued to this thing in a trance, the picture is amazing.  Watched some of GBU and OUATITW, and although it looks beautiful it's filmed in what I believe is 2:35-1, which leaves it letterboxed even on a 16:9 screen.  Was really bumming out, thought it would fill the screen.  You can stretch it out with zoom functions but then you lose detailing and it gets grainier.  Am I missing something here?  I've got the DVD player set at 16:9 so I know that's not the problem.

btw - also saw Sin City, this DVD offers enhanced widescreen and it fills the 16:9 screen.   Loved this movie, some of the most original film I've seen in ages - liked this MUCH better than Kill Bill.  Are all the studios going to reissue DVD's in enhanced widescreen to meet the demand for 16:9 screens now?  Another gold mine.

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General Discussion / Re: Something to do with dubbing
« on: August 06, 2005, 04:21:41 AM »

Here's where we disagree. Tuco is not a blockhead, far from it. He can trace Il biondo (twice!) and could dispose of him were it not for Carson appearance; he also disposes of phisically superior Brega and of Mullock (twice). He is fast getting on to Carson's revelations. Sure, he has some comic traits: that is what render him the most complex character of the three and the most interesting. But it is this complexity that is not adequately served by Wallach monotonous voice. He is unable to slip from comdic to dramatic in the same phrase which really renders the character so fascinating. Actually I wonder how english-speaking listeners can appreciate the character given these rather heavy limitations.     


Then what is the brother's episode there for? And the dialogue with Blondie on the coach?

Tuco is a member of Mensa eh?  Then how do you explain the "Idi...Idi...Idi... - Idiots, it's for you" scene?   Going into the final showdown with no bullets in his gun? 

 Sure he's clever, but the movie makes it very clear that he's always a step behind Blondie and AE.  The scene with brother Ramirez and the coach dialogue is meant to convey that he's NOT a complete buffoon - but buffoonery is definitely his defining trait.  Wallach plays (hams) that up, but what the hell that's the character.

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General Discussion / Re: Something to do with dubbing
« on: August 05, 2005, 06:48:24 AM »
Molto interessante
 
Now I would have to state the contrary opinion.  I've listened to some of the Italian dub on the DVD and the voices are quite jarring.  We're accustomed to LVC, Wallach & Eastwood in their own tongue, and it seems completely artificial to hear them dubbed, it doesn't seem true to the character at all. 

LVC has a tenor voice in English, but they give him a baritone in the dub.  YOu don't need to drop AngelEye's voice an octave to make him menacing, actually it's scarier having him as a tenor because his voice is so normal.  His delivery is very calm and unmelodramatic, but it's the way he phrases things - like the hissing of a snake - is what makes him so evil.  You don't need him trumpeting like an opera singer to make you sweat.

I think Wallach nailed Tuco, the whining is part of the character.  Tuco is always a couple of chess moves behind Blondie and AngelEyes, so of course he's always frustrated and always whining.  I don't think shading Tuco is true to the character, he's pure Id and all action - to try and convey a deep, reflective inner life for Tuco by shading his voice is out of character.

The voice and the face and eyes are all of a piece.  You always lose something in the dub - unless it's the heroic job done by the dude who did Ramone & Indio for Volonte  ;)

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A Fistful of Dollars / Re: Don Miguel Rojo
« on: July 29, 2005, 01:26:44 PM »
I`m not sure about how many year old he is. But I can tell you that I met to him (face to face) around 3 years ago in a sale of horses and he looked good. I have thought go to talk him and ask him a lot of question but I haven`t had time to do this. I`m usually go to get icecream at the "Bravissimo" and when I asked for him the manager have told me: He came here from time to time. He doesn`t have a special day.

Well Christian, did you ever talk to The Man?   Ask him if he knows about a certain "cash box"

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General Discussion / Re: Angel Eyes or Frank?
« on: July 29, 2005, 12:17:49 PM »
Frank easily.  Angel Eyes is a great villan, but a one-dimensional bad guy. . . Frank is a much more complex and human character.  IMO at least, that's a better character.

AngelEyes has as many facets as a well cut diamond, how can you call him one dimensional?!?!?  Look at the near Christlike compassion he displays in the tearjerker scene with the Half Soldier.   

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General Discussion / Re: Angel Eyes or Frank?
« on: July 28, 2005, 01:40:04 PM »
Sibley: where does he strike you as interested in women? 

He seems to take an inordinate amount of pleasure slapping Maria around, above and beyond what's required for mere information gathering.  If you tweak the contrast on your TV you can notice the pup tent in his trousers.  Plus, that leering debauchee grin the "nice family" shot.

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General Discussion / Re: Angel Eyes or Frank?
« on: July 28, 2005, 12:47:10 PM »
Frank definitely has the Willy Loman thing going on Gramps, he's sick of his job and sick of living and wants to get it over with.  That's probably why he's intrigued by Harmonica, finally here's a guy who's got cojones just as big as his and it would be dignified to die by his hands.

But AngelEyes just enjoys lthe hell out of what he's doing.  He loves to eat, loves to drink, apparently has a fondness for the women.  His evilness just seems like a skill he's developed to survive in nasty times,  "I'll ask the questions!"

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General Discussion / Re: Angel Eyes or Frank?
« on: July 28, 2005, 12:19:38 PM »
Worse than that, he even shovels down one of the sloppiest and most evil looking meals in film history with great relish. What the hell is on that plate?!?

I believe that's menudo: a traditional mexican hangover cure consisting of sheep intestines and hot chiles, mmmm.

Both of these guys have a sh*tty job to do, and report to greedy azzhole bosses (Baker, Morton).    As an aside, have you ever fantasized about putting a pillow over your bosses head? 

But...hey, a guy's got to make a living and they make the best of it and carry out their duties with polished professionalism.   Arbeit macht Frei.

But AngelEyes gets my vote and it's not even close, he seems to be having so much fun - "AngelEyes, NOOOOOOO!"  :o

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Tuco's wanted poster?
« on: July 24, 2005, 03:53:46 AM »
There's a righteous explanation, makes perfect sense that the poster says Guy Calloway.  If you'll recall the "Wanted in 14 Counties" recitation of crimes, the sheriff adds, "...and any other aliases he might go buy".

Tuco also tells LVC, "Look at jou, I betchu they doan call you Sergeant Angel Eyes".

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