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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Things that bother me
« on: June 15, 2019, 03:28:24 AM »
Then you misunderstood me. I'm for the longer version. But without the cave scene, which means the Italian version.

The fort scene is good for the rhythm and it brings Sentenza back in the film, who is without this scene too long away. And it the only scene which shows some human emotions from him. But on the other hand the scene where he suddenly shows up in the prison camp is more effective in the 161 min version.

The scene in which Blondie and Sentenza camp at night is one I would cut out. Superfluous, and it looks bad. Probably the weakest scene in the film. And then there is a short piece in which Tuco asks for the way to the mission, this one is superfluous too. But I like all the other scenes. And that short part with the drunk Captain is great.

So my perfect version runs 171 min. I call it the Stanton cut.

I agree with your cut, but usually I just watch the regular 161 cut if I'm watching it.

Ennio Morricone / Re: The Hateful Eight not being shown in Cineworld UK
« on: January 07, 2016, 04:14:35 AM »
I didn't even realise there was an Overture and Intermission!  :D

Yes the Odeon Leicester Square one is two tiered. Although I last went there when I was 7 years old to watch Aladdin. I think I might as well try and watch it in 70mm now.

Other Films / Re: One-Eyed Jacks (1961)
« on: January 06, 2016, 04:41:22 AM »
If I remember right Kubrick had started shooting "One Eyed Jacks", but couldnt get along with Brando on the set, so he left within a week?
I love this film, especially the windswept valley fight at the beginning and Karl Malden is one of the greatest actors alive and still kickin in his nineties!
What a damn shame that it is not available on a widescreen dvd, as I know there was a fantastic widescreen laserdisc out around ten years ago.
You know the studios have just been lazy as they probably feel there is no market for this classic.

I just got round to watching this film for the first time last week. I really enjoyed it, it has it's flaws of course, but it comes at an interesting point in the history of the Western in American cinema and I think marks the change between the traditional West and the "new wave" West that got into full swing after the Spaghetti Westerns. I think someone on these boards mentioned that it was a bit "overblown" and it did remind me of the most overblown Western ever made (which I love) "Duel in the Sun".

Admittedly it would have been interesting to see what Kubrick would have done with the picture (Sam Peckinpah was also rumoured to writing the screenplay too). That said I think Brando does a very admirable job as a director and he obviously took a lot of time over it. I'm not a huge Brando fan, but he has a lot of natural charisma and I think he works great in the lead role. That said he is somewhat overshadowed by Karl Malden and Ben Johnson who are terrific. I watched it on a poorish quality DVD and would love to see this get a restoration it deserves. I'd rate it an 8/10.

Ennio Morricone / The Hateful Eight not being shown in Cineworld UK
« on: January 06, 2016, 04:28:26 AM »
It's disappointing to see that The Hateful Eight, the first fully-Morricone scored Tarantino movie, has been pulled from all Cineworld cinemas :(

I'm Cineworld Unlimited holder and it's a bit annoying. Apparently because Odeon (a rival Cinema chain) have an exclusivity clause in which they can show the film in a 70mm print (although I think it's only Odeon Leicester Square). Usually I wouldn't pay £12 to watch a movie at the cinema, but I quite want to see this.

I kind of understand why Cineworld are taking a stand, but it's a bit annoying having to pay additional money to see it.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: GBU drops to #6 on IMDB
« on: January 06, 2016, 03:46:45 AM »
Yes, I haven't searched through TSPDT extensively before; but I enjoy it as it's named after my favourite Michael Sarrazin movie and also contains some great profile pages of my favourite directors along with quotes about them that I've never read before.

I've never gone through their full film list before though.

Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Gabriele Ferzetti - R.I.P.
« on: January 05, 2016, 08:35:38 AM »
Sad news. I was wondering recently whether he was still alive and now he is gone.

He was also in On Her Majesty's Secret Service (I believe as Tracy's father if I remember correctly) as well as other notable films in that era. He will be missed.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: GBU drops to #6 on IMDB
« on: January 05, 2016, 07:22:29 AM »
Yeah of course the vote limit is a key element, but it is at a major disadvantage to older films and foreign films which don't have the same coverage. Not that it matters, there are plenty of other sources to see the top films ever made.

I've only ever seen 'The Mirror' and 'Solyaris' but both great films, I really want to see 'Stalker', but there are 100s of film that can fit in the same category.

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: GBU drops to #6 on IMDB
« on: January 05, 2016, 05:24:47 AM »
Better The Godfather, The Godfather Part II, Pulp Fiction, GBU and Fight Club should be dropped of the list, they are just too good for such a list. ;)

I was about to  :'( but then I got to the end of your post.

I like IMDB because it's made me discover a tonne of movies that 20 years ago, would just not be possible; especially the information about silent films. It really is an amazing tool, but the other side of the user input isn't as great and the Top 250 list is obviously based on popularity which negates it. Still, I must admit when I first got into movies in the early 2000s (when GBU was probably about #20) I used the 250 as a guide to watch the "best movies ever made"; AND The Shawshank Redemption is a great movie, but I was a fan before it was cool to like it  ;)

I really think that a major problem now is that a lot of movies in the past 10 years or so that are being produced in Hollywood aren't that great, but I have an idea that the studios somehow manipulate the IMDB voting system so most blockbusters appear on the list during the first couple of weeks of release.

Duck, You Sucker / Re: So what title best fits this film?
« on: January 05, 2016, 04:47:58 AM »
I agree with the previous poster, I would have gone for 'Once Upon a Time... the Revolution' as part of the second trilogy. I quite like 'A Fistful of Dynamite' though, very punchy. 'Duck, You Suck' is just a bit lame, but I don't mind it when Coburn says it in the film.

Duck, You Sucker / Re: Thoughts on this film
« on: January 05, 2016, 04:43:40 AM »
I just rewatched this film for the first time, after only seeing it once 10 years for the first time.

Back then I was 19 years old and perhaps my film and general world and historical knowledge was somewhat limited. I found it quite long and laborious in comparison to Leone's other films, but I decided to watch it again. It really was like watching a different film, I really liked it and whilst I still think it's probably the weakest out of the 6 main films, it would be a highlight of any other director's career.

What I really appreciated this time was Rod Steiger's Juan. I read a few criticisms that he's not as good as Tuco and indeed that Steiger and Leone had an argument as to how the character should be portrayed. I think Steiger's characterisation was solid and best fit the overall town of the film and the history. He is a vile bandit at the start and then through his own actions (with John's assistance) he realised the importance of the revolution for himself. Although of course he was partly right about Revolution when he said about "the middle class read and plan the attacks but it's the poor who carry out the jobs" (I'm paraphrasing). Especially when Dr. Villegas (sic?) "informed"; but I was glad that John lied at the end to Juan to help him continue his belief in the revolution and additionally that his family died for a just cause.

Even though I believe it's Leone's weakest, I would say that it's his most intellectual and profound work and I really admire it. Admittedly I did watch the original DVD version (147 minutes?), but I will buy the Special Edition as I have all the dollars in that same edition case too (as well as the original DVDs). One thing I'm not a massive fan of in the movie is the soundtrack, some of it's really good, but I think overall it's a bit out of sync with the rest of the film.

Duck, You Sucker / Re: Nolan
« on: January 04, 2016, 03:23:27 PM »
Yes, he even does a nod implying to John for him to kill him. Although it cuts back to John with the Doctor and John says about not being to judge him or something along those lines.

I just watched this film again after 10 years and I like it a lot more now than when I first saw it. It really is quite nuanced (mainly because of Steiger I guess), but it fits perfectly between the Once Upon a Times....

 OK well to me the film seemed pretty much exactly the same, the only bit that seemed different was the opening 20 minutes, they may have added extra shots, but I'm not sure. When Harmonica gets shot, he gets up again. The part about the chess piece is not in it, as for Farewell to Cheyenne it plays as he leaves the station, then the Finale is played, before the credits appear and Cheyenne's Theme is played once more.

 I went with 2 friends, 1 who had never seen it before, the other whose father regards it as the greatest film ever. My friend who had never seen it, loved it, which I was pretty sure he would, but there's always that element of doubt. Another thing we agree on was that we needed to visit a whorehouse in New Orleans.  ;)

 It was the first time I'd been to the BFI Southbank, and it's an amazing cinema, I now have annual membership £20, and recommend it to anyone who lives in London. The theatre was more than half full and I think me and my friends were pretty much the youngest there (24, not that young). I thought Tarantino or Frayling might be there too because Tarantino's new film premiered here last night, and Frayling lives in the area and is a Governor at the BFI. I didn't see them, but I didn't look too hard, as the film pretty much started immediately and I left immediately. All in all a great night, I'm half tempted to go and watch it again.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Remakes That Beat the Originals
« on: July 23, 2009, 11:22:18 PM »
 Herzog's Nosferatu is very serein, whilst not a film I regard amongst the greats, it's certainly a very interesting film, and let's face it Kinski is very watchable. I've only seen a couple of Herzog's, I find him quite tough to really love though, some of his films are just too slow for me. I think 'Aguirre: Wrath of God' is my favourite of his.

As for remakes that beat the original how about the Bourne Identity.  O0

Tuco would spend it on his wife and child

OK, I'll try my best. I remember the rising from the dead, and Farewell to Cheyenne at the end of the movie. I hope this version doesn't have a clear picture of Frank when Harmonica's brother is hanged, one of my friends hasn't seen this before. It would destroy the ambiguity of Harmonica's appearance.

 I would think that anything I haven't seen before I would notice, but then again it was one of those films where I notice more things on further viewings anyway.

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