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Off-Topic Discussion / Cloudburst (1951)
« on: September 12, 2021, 12:16:17 AM »
Cloudburst (1951)

A Canadian World War II veteran working for the British Foreign Office scours England for the killer who murdered his wife.

    Robert Preston as John Graham
    Elizabeth Sellars as Carol Graham
    Colin Tapley as Inspector Davis
    Sheila Burrell as Lorna Dawson
    Harold Lang as Mickie Fraser / Kid Python
    Mary Germaine as Peggy Reece
    George Woodbridge as Sergeant Ritchie
    Lyn Evans as Chuck Peters
    Thomas Heathcote as Jackie
    Edith Sharpe as Mrs. Reece
    Daphne Anderson as Kate
    Edward Lexy as Cardew
    James Mills as Thompson
    Noel Howlett as Johnson
    Martin Boddey as Desk Sergeant


Los Tallos Amargos [The Bitter Stems] (1956)

This showed on Noir Alley recently. The Film Foundation restored the movie and it'll be released soon on BRD

Eddie Muller's intro

Eddie Muller's outro

Off-Topic Discussion / Shadow of a Doubt (1943)
« on: July 20, 2021, 01:10:11 AM »
Shadow of a Doubt (1943)

Eddie Muller's intro

Eddie Muller's outro

Off-Topic Discussion / Walk a Crooked Mile (1948)
« on: July 20, 2021, 01:04:27 AM »
Walk a Crooked Mile (1948)

Cold War movie about Soviets trying to steal nuclear secrets from American nuclear lab.

With Louis Hayward, Dennis O'Keefe, Louise Allbritton, Raymond Burr.

Decent movie with a terrible narration.

Eddie Muller's intro

Eddie Muller's outro

Off-Topic Discussion / The Brothers Rico (1957)
« on: July 16, 2021, 04:54:25 PM »
previous discussion here

IMO this is a crappy movie. And Conte is not as good as usual

Eddie Muller's intro

Eddie Muller's outro

General Discussion / nice piece on Frayling
« on: May 30, 2021, 01:02:31 PM »
I just discovered this 2013 interview/article on Frayling

"Like many popular artists, Leone also wanted to be regarded as a serious artist, and passionately craved the respect of intellectuals. Enter the white knight. In the English-speaking world at least, no one has done more than Christopher Frayling to make Sergio Leone a name to drop in cinephile circles."

Among the interesting revelations: Frayling's manuscript for STDWD was double as long as what was publishd. And he says "I think that by the end of this year I'm finally going to be Leoned out ... unless some publisher is willing to do the 'Director's Cut' of the biography." (Thankfully, Frayling was not "Leoned out" - he did subsequently publish the OUATITW book  :))

Off-Topic Discussion / 2021 Awards Season (for 2020 Movies)
« on: April 25, 2021, 10:28:30 AM »
Oscars tonight

Best Picture

The Father - David Parfitt, Jean-Louis Livi and Philippe Carcassonne, Producers
Judas and the Black Messiah - Shaka King, Charles D. King and Ryan Coogler, Producers
Mank - Ce?n Chaffin, Eric Roth and Douglas Urbanski, Producers
Minari - Christina Oh, Producer
Nomadland - Frances McDormand, Peter Spears, Mollye Asher, Dan Janvey and Chlo? Zhao, Producers
Promising Young Woman - Ben Browning, Ashley Fox, Emerald Fennell and Josey McNamara, Producers
Sound of Metal - Bert Hamelinck and Sacha Ben Harroche, Producers
The Trial of the Chicago 7 - Marc Platt and Stuart Besser, Producers


Another Round - Thomas Vinterberg
Mank - David Fincher
Minari - Lee Isaac Chung
Nomadland - Chlo? Zhao
Promising Young Woman - Emerald Fennell

Actor in a Leading Role

Riz Ahmed - Sound of Metal
Chadwick Boseman - Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Anthony Hopkins - The Father
Gary Oldman - Mank
Steven Yeun -Minari

Actor in a Supporting Role

Sacha Baron Cohen - The Trial of the Chicago 7
Daniel Kaluuya - Judas and the Black Messiah
Leslie Odom, Jr. - One Night in Miami...
Paul Raci - Sound of Metal
Lakeith Stanfield - Judas and the Black Messiah

Actress in a Leading Role

Viola Davis- Ma Rainey's Black Bottom
Andra Day- The United States vs. Billie Holiday
Vanessa Kirby - Pieces of a Woman
Frances McDormand - Nomadland
Carey Mulligan - Promising Young Woman

Actress in a Supporting Role

Maria Bakalova - Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan
Glenn Close - Hillbilly Elegy
Olivia Colman - The Father
Amanda Seyfried - Mank
Yuh-Jung Youn - Minari

Animated Feature Film

Onward - Dan Scanlon and Kori Rae
Over the Moon - Glen Keane, Gennie Rim and Peilin Chou
A Shaun the Sheep Movie: Farmageddon -Richard Phelan, Will Becher and Paul Kewley
Soul - Pete Docter and Dana Murray
Wolfwalkers - Tomm Moore, Ross Stewart, Paul Young and St?phan Roelants


Judas and the Black Messiah - Sean Bobbitt
Mank - Erik Messerschmidt
News of the World - Dariusz Wolski
Nomadland - Joshua James Richards
The Trial of the Chicago 7 - Phedon Papamichael

Costume Design

Emma - Alexandra Byrne
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom - Ann Roth
Mank - Trish Summerville
Mulan - Bina Daigeler
Pinocchio - Massimo Cantini Parrini

Documentary (Feature)

Collective -Alexander Nanau and Bianca Oana
Crip Camp - Nicole Newnham, Jim LeBrecht and Sara Bolder
The Mole Agent - Maite Alberdi and Marcela Santib??ez
My Octopus Teacher - Pippa Ehrlich, James Reed and Craig Foster
Time - Garrett Bradley, Lauren Domino and Kellen Quinn

Documentary (Short Subject)

Colette - Anthony Giacchino and Alice Doyard
A Concerto Is a Conversation - Ben Proudfoot and Kris Bowers
Do Not Split - Anders Hammer and Charlotte Cook
Hunger Ward - Skye Fitzgerald and Michael Scheuerman
A Love Song for Latasha - Sophia Nahli Allison and Janice Duncan

Film Editing

The Father - Yorgos Lamprinos
Nomadland - Chlo? Zhao
Promising Young Woman - Fr?d?ric Thoraval
Sound of Metal - Mikkel E. G. Nielsen
The Trial of the Chicago 7 - Alan Baumgarten

International Feature Film

Another Round - Denmark
Better Days - Hong Kong
Collective - Romania
The Man Who Sold His Skin - Tunisia
Quo Vadis, Aida? - Bosnia and Herzegovina

Makeup and Hairstyling

Emma - Marese Langan, Laura Allen and Claudia Stolze
Hillbilly Elegy - Eryn Krueger Mekash, Matthew Mungle and Patricia Dehaney
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom - Sergio Lopez-Rivera, Mia Neal and Jamika Wilson
Mank - Gigi Williams, Kimberley Spiteri and Colleen LaBaff
Pinocchio - Mark Coulier, Dalia Colli and Francesco Pegoretti

Music (Original Score)
Da 5 Bloods - Terence Blanchard
Mank - Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross
Minari - Emile Mosseri
News of the World - James Newton Howard
Soul - Trent Reznor, Atticus Ross and Jon Batiste

Music (Original Song)

Fight For You - from Judas and the Black Messiah; Music by H.E.R. and Dernst Emile II; Lyric by H.E.R. and Tiara Thomas

Hear My Voice - from The Trial of the Chicago 7; Music by Daniel Pemberton; Lyric by Daniel Pemberton and Celeste Waite

Husavik - from Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga; Music and Lyric by Savan Kotecha, Fat Max Gsus and Rickard G?ransson

Io S? (Seen) - from The Life Ahead (La Vita Davanti a Se); Music by Diane Warren; Lyric by Diane Warren and Laura Pausini
Speak Now - from One Night in Miami...; Music and Lyric by Leslie Odom, Jr. and Sam Ashworth

Production Design

The Father - Production Design: Peter Francis; Set Decoration: Cathy Featherstone
Ma Rainey's Black Bottom - Production Design: Mark Ricker; Set Decoration: Karen O'Hara and Diana Stoughton
Mank - Production Design: Donald Graham Burt; Set Decoration: Jan Pascale
News of the World - Production Design: David Crank; Set Decoration: Elizabeth Keenan
Tenet - Production Design: Nathan Crowley; Set Decoration: Kathy Lucas

Short Film (Animated)

Burrow- Madeline Sharafian and Michael Capbarat
Genius Loci - Adrien M?rigeau and Amaury Ovise
If Anything Happens I Love You - Will McCormack and Michael Govier
Opera - Erick Oh
Yes-People - G?sli Darri Halld?rsson and Arnar Gunnarsson

Short Film (Live Action)

Feeling Through - Doug Roland and Susan Ruzenski
The Letter Room - Elvira Lind and Sofia Sondervan
The Present - Farah Nabulsi and Ossama Bawardi
Two Distant Strangers - Travon Free and Martin Desmond Roe
White Eye - Tomer Shushan and Shira Hochman


Greyhound - Warren Shaw, Michael Minkler, Beau Borders and David Wyman
Mank - Ren Klyce, Jeremy Molod, David Parker, Nathan Nance and Drew Kunin
News of the World - Oliver Tarney, Mike Prestwood Smith, William Miller and John Pritchett
Soul - Ren Klyce, Coya Elliott and David Parker
Sound of Metal - Nicolas Becker, Jaime Baksht, Michellee Couttolenc, Carlos Cort?s and Phillip Bladh

Visual Effects

Love and Monsters - Matt Sloan, Genevieve Camilleri, Matt Everitt and Brian Cox
The Midnight Sky - Matthew Kasmir, Christopher Lawrence, Max Solomon and David Watkins
Mulan - Sean Faden, Anders Langlands, Seth Maury and Steve Ingram
The One and Only Ivan - Nick Davis, Greg Fisher, Ben Jones and Santiago Colomo Martinez
Tenet - Andrew Jackson, David Lee, Andrew Lockley and Scott Fisher

Writing (Adapted Screenplay)

Borat Subsequent Moviefilm: Delivery of Prodigious Bribe to American Regime for Make Benefit Once Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan - Screenplay by Sacha Baron Cohen & Anthony Hines & Dan Swimer & Peter Baynham & Erica Rivinoja & Dan Mazer & Jena Friedman & Lee Kern; Story by Sacha Baron Cohen & Anthony Hines & Dan Swimer & Nina Pedrad

The Father - Screenplay by Christopher Hampton and Florian Zeller

Nomadland -Written for the screen by Chlo? Zhao

One Night in Miami... - Screenplay by Kemp Powers

The White Tiger - Written for the screen by Ramin Bahrani

Writing (Original Screenplay)

Judas and the Black Messiah -Screenplay by Will Berson & Shaka King; Story by Will Berson & Shaka King and Kenny Lucas & Keith Lucas

Minari - Written by Lee Isaac Chung

Promising Young Woman - Written by Emerald Fennell

Sound of Metal - Screenplay by Darius Marder & Abraham Marder; Story by Darius Marder & Derek Cianfrance

The Trial of the Chicago 7 - Written by Aaron Sorkin

Web Site Announcements / Apostrophe issue
« on: December 09, 2020, 06:40:46 PM »
When I view the site on my MacBook or iPhone, what people typed as apostrophes often look like a question mark. Is this happening to anyone else?

I have reached out to the administrator many times but he has not replied. In the meantime, I suggest we try to avoid using contractions to limit the apostrophes.

Off-Topic Discussion / Fear (1946)
« on: November 15, 2020, 07:43:37 PM »

Fear (1946)

courtesy of imdb: In this Americanized retelling of Dostoevsky' Crime and Punishment, a medical student--broke, hungry and desperate for money--murders a loan shark to whom he owes money. After the killing, he's tormented by guilt over what he's done. A police captain, who's convinced the student committed the crime but can't prove it for lack of evidence, plays on the young man's guilt in order to get him to confess to the crime.


Peter Cookson as Larry Crain
Warren William as Police Capt. Burke
Anne Gwynne as Eileen
Francis Pierlot  as Prof. Stanley
Nestor Paiva as Detective Shaefer
Almira Sessions as Mrs. Williams, The Landlady


This is as Poverty Row as Poverty Row gets.

And it is a piece of crap. No artistic value whatsoever.

Of course, it is based on one of the most famous novels of all time ... but even the story is ruined with the dumb ending. That sort of thing is cute when you're 5 years old.

Off-Topic Discussion / The Seventh Victim (1943)
« on: November 02, 2020, 03:15:27 AM »

The Seventh Victim (1943)

previous posts from Rate the Last Movie You Saw thread:


drinkanddestroy: The Seventh Victim (1943) 2/10 (TCM)

An absolute piece of shit.

Kim Hunter's first movie. Her performance is crap. The whole movie is crap.


XhcnoirX: I really enjoy this movie. It's very atmospheric, dark, beautifully shot and quite daring/shocking for the time (the ending in particular). I rated it 8/10.

cigar joe: DRINKANDDESTROY's full of crap, he doesn't appreciate, atmospheric, dark, beautifully shot and quite daring/shocking for the time films.  ;D

Off-Topic Discussion / Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950)
« on: October 31, 2020, 08:56:38 PM »

Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950)

previous posts from Film Noir Discussion Thread

titoli: Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950) Another "Murphy's law" product. The plot turns are improbable, or contrived, or simply wrong. Some example: Malden happens on the murder scene and in five minutes can reconstruct how things went; Andrews can't accept how things really went, trying all his best to put the blame on Merril when it is clear he's innocent (but somehow everybody does his best to convince the viewer he's not, even Merril's sidekicks). So, after Merrill (we don't know how) reconstruct correctly all Andrews' moves, apparently he doesn't find necessary to bring his conclusions to Andrews' superiors (of course: it must be Andrews himself who must be allowed to show his repentance and pride). I could add other examples... So  Gene will wait for him, though: can anybody believe it? 6\10 just for the night scenes and photography and the whistled tune.

Off-Topic Discussion / The Long Haul (1957)
« on: August 31, 2020, 12:31:14 AM »

The Long Haul (1957)

plot synopsis and cast, adapted from wikipedia

An American ex-serviceman (Victor Mature) leaves Allied-occupied Germany after World War II and is persuaded by his English wife (Gene Anderson) to settle in Liverpool. Looking for work, he becomes a lorry driver. He comes into contact with criminals involved in theft from commercial vehicles and draws close to the girlfriend (Diana Dors) of a the head of the crooked trucking company(Patrick Allen).

    Victor Mature as Harry Miller
    Diana Dors as Lynn
    Patrick Allen as Joe Easy
    Gene Anderson as Connie Miller
    Peter Reynolds as Frank
    Liam Redmond as Casey
    John Welsh as Doctor
    Meier Tzelniker as Nat Fine
    Michael Wade as Butch Miller
    Dervis Ward as Mutt
    Murray Kash as Jeff
    Jameson Clark as MacNaughton
    John Harvey as Superintendent Macrea
    Roland Brand as Army sergeant
    Stanley Rose as Foreman
    Barry Raymond as Depot manager
    Norman Rossington as Liverpool driver
    Arthur Mullard as Minor role
    Alfred Burke as drunk in Club (uncredited)
    Sam Kydd as Taxi Driver

Off-Topic Discussion / Bodyguard (1948)
« on: July 27, 2020, 10:06:39 PM »

After being fired for insubordination, homicide detective Mike Carter (Lawrence Tierney)  is hired as bodyguard by the owner of a local meat-packing plant where a meat inspector has been murdered.

Eddie Muller's intro:

Eddie Muller's outro:


Off-Topic Discussion / The Sign of the Ram (1948)
« on: July 12, 2020, 12:19:45 AM »

The Sign of the Ram (1948)

You may argue whether this is noir, but it was on Noir Alley so it makes the cut.

Phyllis Thaxter comes out to work as a secretary at a family who lives in a mansion on the Cornwall cliffs: The father (Alexander Knox), son and two daughters, and the father's wheelchair-bound young second wife, played by Susan Peters in her return to the screen after a hunting accident left her paralyzed.

Things get pretty screwy in the family. I won't give anything away ...

Not a particularly good movie, and it also goes on a bit too long. Once we find out, and then the rest of the family finds out, what's been behind all the trouble, movie still goes on for a few more minutes, needlessly.

Eddie Muller's intro:

Eddie Muller's outro:

Off-Topic Discussion / The Underworld Story (1950)
« on: July 12, 2020, 12:12:04 AM »
The Underworld Story (1950)

previous post

cigar joe: The Underworld Story (1950) Director Cy Endfield, stars Dan Duryea, Herbert Marshall, Gale Storm, Howard Da Silva, Gar Moore, a nice little noir about the newspaper business and a falsely accused black woman. 7/10

Eddie Muller's intro:

Eddie Muller's outro:

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