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For a Few Dollars More / Aquas Calientes (spelt drasitcally wrong)
« on: February 18, 2003, 01:56:03 PM »
I was travelling in Egypt with my mum when i came across a travel book called the Gringo Trail.  In it they actually go to a town called Aquas Calienties like the town in the movie.  It's in Bolivia i think.  Anyone been there?  Is it the inspiration for the whole town scene?  Do you reckon Leone went there?  A bit random i know but i haven't posted for a few weeks so i'm getting into the swing of things

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Off-Topic Discussion / City of God aka Cidade de Deus (2002)
« on: January 05, 2003, 04:08:07 AM »
I saw the Brazilian movie, City of God, a movie about young crime and gangs in Brazil.  I just want to say what an incredible movie this is.  I'm not sure if its out in America, or already has been and i missed the discussion about it, but i urge you all to go at see it in your cinema now, i know its out here in england so you fellow Blighties better go out and see it.

Its set in a slum in Brazil, called the City of God.  They did not use actors but actual children of the slums.  It tells its story through a brilliant character called 'Rocket,' and it travels through three decades to get to its finale, 60's 70's 80's.  The camera is clever, but not over the top like of a lot of debutant directors try to use.  The characters are all beautiful.  There is no real message behind the movie, its based (sort of,) around a real story, its just opens your eyes to the violence of Brazil, it doesn't try and change anything its just there to inform you, which is what makes it so wonderful.  The soundtrack is also stunning, i couldn't recommend a movie more, and i really should edit my top ten movies ever for this, cause it really will go down as a classic, its better than Pulp Fiction, that’s a big a compliment as you can get.

thanks for reading, but please for your own sakes go out and see this movie    

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For a Few Dollars More / A few discrepancies in the movie
« on: January 03, 2003, 11:28:06 AM »
Just watching the movie tonight with a friend.  A few problems i have found in the movie which bug me.  Firstly where do the three guards go who are walking round the building.  Secondly How does the wall blow up?  They ride to it after it blows up.  And thirdly what do you think Manco does with the bank money?



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General Discussion / Do women love Leone too
« on: December 28, 2002, 04:42:10 AM »
I was just talking to a friend, and he claimed that only blokes watched westerns, i challenged him, "do don't be so discriminating you pig."  Now i am being put to the test, how many woman really look up westerns on the internet.  I would be intrested to know the percentage of males to females on this site.  Thanks  Caius

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If you have the dvd to GBU, as i do, you would have by now ventured to watching the us (version) trailer of the movie.  Why in the trailer does it point out Tuco as the Bad and Van Cleef as the Ugly, when in the movie it is the other way round?

Were the promoters of this movie stupid?  I know Van Cleef was hardly good looking, but no need to go to such extents to rub it in.

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / why does Blondie keep tuco alive?
« on: December 27, 2002, 04:33:00 PM »
Correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't Angel Eyes tell Blondie where the cemetery is?  In the bit after Blondie is told he is released.  IF so then why does he go to tuco again.  Of course i am guessing that i have got this seriously wrong, or we have found the sexual orientation of Blondie, he just can't keep away from tuco

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Sergio Leone News / Finally, Found Once Upon a Time in America on DVD!!
« on: December 27, 2002, 11:09:24 AM »
I am not sure how good this is going to be, but its a pretty official website called:  http://www1.cd-wow.com/index.php

this is exact, and yes there is a 1 in the www. part.

Don't go ahead and buy it just yet, i will check it up for you all when it arrives.  I feel that it maybe fake, but if it works then who cares.  Also the region is 0 it claims.  It claims to be a worldwide product.  Anyway if you know of anything bad with this website tell me.

it cost £10 . 99 which is more than reasonable for a dvd, let alone a dvd which is not out yet on most websites.

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General Discussion / How old was leone when he died,
« on: December 27, 2002, 10:32:55 AM »
and how old was he when he made his last movie, was there a big gap between the two.

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General Discussion / is there continuity in the first three movies
« on: December 27, 2002, 05:57:37 AM »
i have mixed feeling on the matter of the continuity in the first three Leone movies.  The style and quality of his clothes support the argument of yes there is continuity.  (For the first two movies he has shoddy clothes, then when he makes some money he is wearing fancy Dan clothes for GBU.)  Then there are the more simple arguments, like why is his character always so similar if he wasn’t the same person, and why is Clint in it three times if he is not the same character.  I also reckon that there is no fourth movie because he goes away to buy the little place he talks about in For a Few Dollars More, when he earns enough money from the gold find in GBU.  
On the other hand if Leone was interested in continuity then he wouldn’t have used van Cleef in two movies or any of the bandits that appear in the first two.
Or maybe Leone was just trying to piss me off, by making me think, in vain, about it.

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For a Few Dollars More / A question of sound
« on: December 26, 2002, 07:03:39 AM »
When Indio opens the door to lock the box with the money away, doesn't it sound like somebody screaming, it got to me. and i thought that sergio must have noticed this, so maybe again it is hidden symbolism, don't know what for.

Then again maybe i'm being over analytical again.

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Sergio Leone News / Leone DVD's in England
« on: December 26, 2002, 06:53:23 AM »
I have the box set first three clint/leone dvd's (fistful, FAFMD and GBU,) but i can't find the rest of his movies on DVD, then again i have only looked on amazon.co.uk and virgin megastores and HMV.  Any clues to where i may stumble on this treasure trove?

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General Discussion / Kurosawa and his libel case with Leone
« on: December 25, 2002, 05:00:03 AM »
I know that Leone was sued by Kurosawa, and i take it that Kurosawa won, but what exactly was it about, i know it was breach of copyright, but none of the script is the same (different language,) and surely they use no clips from the movie.  Finally what did leone lose, money (didn't have much at the time did he,) or just face and kudos.

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A Fistful of Dollars / Does Joe have a love intrest in the girl
« on: December 25, 2002, 04:54:16 AM »
After watching the movie through again, i couldn't quite grasp joes intrest in marisol (right spelling?)  

ON first viewing she is definetly a love intrest at first and then moves on to just being the figure he needs to save from this war.  But on more recent viewings i tend to go with the idea that from the beggining he feels for her plight as a locked up woman, she looks very repressed in the first scene.  

this would also follow suit with the rest of the trilogy.  In none of the other movies does Clint have a love intrest, because he transcends that as he is the man with no emotion.

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A Fistful of Dollars / Why?
« on: December 25, 2002, 04:44:50 AM »
Why in the second to final scene (i think,) where ramon is burning down the baxter's house, do they not go out the back door after seeing some mates die?  Coming out before armed and ready when they hear all the commotion, or even try and stop the wagon when it gets to a stand still?  This scene confused me, i know its a story and all, but you would have thought they would have had the sense to come out and at least fight, properly.

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  I was quite surprised to see just how popular GBU was on this site in comparison to the other two SW's in the Clint/Leone trilogy.  Don't get me wrong, all three are wonderful movies, and destroy any western before that, but i do feel that GBU is slightly overrated by some of Leone's fans on this site.  People seem to argue that GBU’s plot, humour, character development and score are what makes it the classic Leone/Clint spaghetti western.   This I feel is somewhat faulted.  Although all these points are true, Morricone’s score is world renowned now, there is a great deal of humour and the plot is interesting, I feel that the movie has its weaknesses and does not match up to the standard set by For a Few Dollars More.
     Firstly, the score written by Morricone is good, but it does not hold the same suspense or splendour then that of FAFDM, where the mixture of the whistling and soprano singing bring you into such a state of frenzy that anything could be on the screen and it would be exciting.  Secondly I feel that compared to the first two movies the plot in GBU is of a low standard.  yes it is intricate, but this in itself is the downfall of it.  The fact that it twists and turns a few too many times just kills it, it is not too complicated its just too ‘hectic.’  The thing for me that defined its two predecessors was the simplicity and beauty of it, Leone obviously had a large budget to play with, and this I felt led him into bringing in too many characters.  For instance, of what importance to the whole movie is the bridge scene, entertaining yes, but it seems to come out as a pointless jibe at the stupidity of generals over the years.  Thirdly I feel that although funny, the movie’s humour is not as subtle as the movies before, but rather has to incorporate a character who is over the top in cartoonish way funny, Tuco.  Finally and most importantly, is character development.  Stated as one of the main reasons for this movies success.  This I debate seriously, we have three main characters, Blondie, Tuco and Angel Eyes, none of who seem to change dramatically over the whole movie.  Angel Eyes, is not used enough in the movie by Leone, he does not create that same sense of fear that Indio brought in FAFDM or Ramon in Fistful of Dollars, and hardly ever appears a threat to Blondie or Tuco’s chances of getting the money.  Also the development of the friendship between Tuco and Blondie is not nearly as good of that of Manco and Colonel Mortimer, which was very touching and gradual.  Blondie and Tuco leave on the same terms as they first met, as partners but not friends.  

   Sorry to have babbled on so long but I just felt that there was no one out there standing up for the criticism of GBU, or the sublimeness of For a Few More Dollars.

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