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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Nightmare Alley (2021)
« on: September 23, 2021, 12:28:23 PM »
Stanton isn't always great.

Why not always?

Let's make a compromise: mostly

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Nightmare Alley (2021)
« on: September 23, 2021, 05:30:36 AM »
Sorry, Don't know WTF you mean.

He means Stanton is always great, whatever he says or does or wherever you meet him or a shadow of him ...

Other Films / Re: The Professionals (1966)
« on: September 23, 2021, 05:27:04 AM »
Looking at the figures I have from the USA, they were not that big a success as many believe in the states either. They sold well, especially for foreign films, but several US westerns had a much bigger draw. Amongst them of course The Professionals. Or Little big Man, or True Grit and especially Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.

I also think the British James Bond made much, much more money in the USA.

And Eastwood's most successful western was ... sigh ... Paint Your Wagon. No wonder they lost the Vietnam war ...

Other Films / Re: The Professionals (1966)
« on: September 22, 2021, 02:13:11 AM »
No, I'm pretty sure that nobody in Germany cared much for Kinski before he worked with Herzog. The 80s VHS cassettes had Eastwood and Kinski instead of LvC on the cover, cause then he was a famous guy for different reasons, but in the 60s he was just a minor actor with mostly small roles in genre films, which mostly had a bad reputation then.

And yes, it seems the Sinatra clan had a certain (and for me unexpected) box office appeal in Germany.

I have no figures for FoD, but the SWs with Nero and the label Django on them had a similar success than Corbucci's Django, even other  Djangos (fake or not fake) with Terence Hill and others had considerable success.

And GBU, maybe it was just too slow and too long. In 1967 El Dorado and The Return of the 7 sold similarly, and the 2 "fake" Djangos with Nero made considerably more money with about 2 mio admissions. The rather unknown I cinque della vendetta (Five for Revenge, Aldo Florio) had also more success with about 1,5 mio admissions.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Van der Graaf Generator
« on: September 20, 2021, 03:18:49 PM »
And I, having ordered it in June, have still to wait ...

... luckily I have already most of the tracks for impatient hearing.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Rate The Last Movie You Saw
« on: September 20, 2021, 03:16:25 PM »
The Usual Suspects (1995) - A tough movie to rate because it has the blistering pace of a masterwork, but there are so many questions to ask about Verbal + Kobayashi's plan in the first place. It doesn't seem so logical, and if Verbal is Soze or Soze's right hand man, wouldn't he have a better fake story to tell and not have to look at items in the room for inspiration for names, memories etc? This movie makes The Big Sleep looking magnificently coherent. But the cast is great, and the script is somehow both messy and kind of amazing. If this had better lighting and wasn't so dated in that regard, I'd be more forgiving. I don't know if this is a classic or another example of Soze's grand trickery. B+

Unfortunately the ending, the big twist with its 100 % foreseeability, is so idiotic in this film, that it nearly ruins the film.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Van der Graaf Generator
« on: September 18, 2021, 12:15:44 PM »
Just play the albums loud and louder, at best the live stuff. Then you will get a quick separation or love forever ...

Other Films / Re: The Professionals (1966)
« on: September 18, 2021, 05:13:30 AM »
Or so the Germans would have us believe...

Ha ha, but in fact it is quite interesting and surprising to see which films had success back then.

If you want a real surprise: Sergeant's Three, the worst western by John Sturges, sold over 5 mio tickets, and is by that the most successful US Western here in the 60s and 70s. The first 2 Winnetou films sold over 10 mio each.

Django: about 2 mio
FaFDM: about 2,25 mio (and 390 000 on a re-run in 1980)
GBU: about 1,25 mio
4 for Texas: about 2 mio
Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid: about 1,4 mio

But remember, while OuTW was not an initial success, it had in Germany over the years such an ongoing success that it is with over 13 mio admissions the 4th most successful film since 1960. Only succeeded by The Jungle Book (over 27 mio), Titanic (nearly 19 mio) and Ben Hur (13,5 mio). And well, the SW comedy Trinity Is Still My Name is on # 7 with over 12 mio.

Those were the days ...

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Van der Graaf Generator
« on: September 18, 2021, 04:44:02 AM »
Well,  I have read only positive things about the set, very positive actually. Even from those who think that the 2005 Remasters were "horribly bad". Apart from the Remastering also the remixes are mostly praised.

Jim Christopulos, co-author of Van der Graaf Generator - The Book seems to like it:

"My own thoughts so far? I still have to pinch myself that this exists. It?s such a big beast and there is so much love and respect poured into this set. It?s just nice to see. In a recent interview I did with Peter, I mentioned how so many bands of that era have sort of fallen by the wayside but VdGG?s stock continues to rise. They are truly respected and revered by fans, critics, and historians, and that respect just seems to grow and intensify. And I think that the attention, thought, and love that went into this project is indicative of the band?s importance ? kudos to Universal for greenlighting this (I mean, wow? Virgin / Universal? that ain?t no little indie that?s throwing down for this). But real kudos to guys like Stephen W Tayler (whose remixes are garnering universal acclaim from fans and media reviewers alike, with many expressing utter amazement), Phillip Smee (who is responsible for putting together the absolutely wonderful hardcover coffee table book, with assistance from Rupert Lloyd and a few others [namely me, Herman P, and Phil S? but, errrr, I?m not giving kudos to myself ? that would be weird]), and Ben Weisman w/remastering. Probably missing a few. But most of all, kudos to Mark Powell who sort of brain child-ed (not a word, folks) this whole thing. Without him, this most likely wouldn?t exist ? he put it all together, hunted down the rare vids, the BBC sessions, got everyone involved, and basically oversaw the whole thing. All of VdGG fandom owes him a big thanks.

Quick thoughts on the box itself. Still haven?t had time to get into the actual albums, except I did start with The Least the other night and it sounds *amazing*. On all the CD releases so far, ?Darkness? (a top 5 VdGG track for me) has never sounded as good as the vinyl, it?s just been muddy and not really happening. I could tell within the first few minutes that this remastering was a welcome revelation. Everything is crisp, clear, and opened up. Refugees and White Hammer also sounded so much better than previous CDs. I plan on listening to the stereo remixes this weekend and I just know (from about 50 things I?ve read online) that SWT?s work is going to be wonderful.

What little time I?ve had to devote to the box has so far been with the BBC stuff, the live Paris ?76 concert, and the video. The BBC stuff ? YES!!! FINALLY, the Sept ?71 BBC In Concert perf of Man Erg, W, and Killer in fantastic quality. This gig has been around but it?s never had primo sound (far from it) and here it finally is. It just rocks, the band?s on fire and Mark was able to ? after all this time ? locate a great sounding version. And there?s a *very* cool BBC ?70 interview with a young Peter Hammill before the band launch into a truncated ? but gloriously off the rails ? version of ?Killer.? Wonderful stuff. The Paris ?76 concert is a holy grail for me personally. After decades of listening to 70s VdGG gigs that were recorded onto a portable tape recorder from the audience, 10th generation (and even loving those), here is a full concert professionally recorded for radio of the classic four-piece in all their glory during the World Record tour. I?ve actually listened to it about four times when I should have been exploring the rest of the set. Sorry? after all these years, to finally have a really good recording of a 70s VdGG gig ? it?s just tough for me to not reach for that every time. And the video? it?s the best the ?70 Beat Club footage has ever looked. It?s the full screen (every other version cuts off a good chunk of the picture) and without the graphics, so you don?t have to see the band lineup obscuring Hammill?s face as he?s singing. The ?75 Godbluff footage is the clearest I?ve seen, fantastic stuff. I never noticed that you could actually *see* the theater audience in certain shots from the stage, and that one of the road crew is wearing a Godbluff tee. You can see all that now. And, the big (to me) coup is the Wondering vid which had previously only been available on YouTube in unwatchable (seriously) 122nd generation quality. This should never have been released by Universal prior to the box being released because it would have blown peoples? minds the first time they saw it as part of the box. But hey ho. And, also very cool, is the Austrian ?78 interview/perf by VdG at their last gig. This had been available in the past on old bootleg vhs tapes, but again with muddy unitnelligble sound and a 10th generation video dub. Here, it?s in pristine condition; I?d never seen it like this before and it?s fantastic.
So, a BIG 10 out of 10 from me so far and I feel like I?ve still only scratched the surface. Carry on then! "

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Van der Graaf Generator
« on: September 16, 2021, 12:38:55 AM »
I bought mine for 129 Euros, that's really cheap for such a big deluxe set. Only the German Amazon will not ship it before the 24th, like in the other EU countries, while the Brits and the Americans can already enjoy it.

Some of the still missing things are:

1. The second version of the single version of Refugees (released on CD once on the I Prophesy Disaster compilation)

2. The Shel Talmy mix of The Least We Can Do (once released accidentally on LP)

3. Theme 1 / The Dambuster's March which is the 4th and last track of the BBC In Concert from 1971, and has recently surfaced in good audio quality.

4. The songs from Time Vaults, at least the better sounding ones of them would have been a nice addition

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Van der Graaf Generator
« on: September 15, 2021, 01:30:12 PM »
Total Graaf:

Big, bigger biggest 20 disc box (17 CDs, 2 audio Blu Rays, 1 video Blu Ray) with all 8 charisma albums (from 1970 to 1978) very well remastered, and all the known bonus material also. The 4 albums of which the multi tracks still exist, were also remixed by Steven Tayler for stereo and for 5.1. sound. The video Blu contains (nearly) all existing footage which was aired on TV in the 70s.

And a complete concert from Paris 1976, which was recorded for French radio, was discovered. And one more BBC session from 1970 was also so far unreleased, at least officially.

Everything on it? Well, most, but still a few things are missing ...

Other Films / Re: THE VALDEZ HORSES( Chino) ?
« on: September 14, 2021, 12:46:23 PM »
Neither I think.

Tricky, yes, but for me an US western shot in Spain, despite being an European production. But the director and the style belong to the USA, and it fits more well alongside other US westerns of the 70s dealing with the genocide of the Indians.

Other Films / Re: The Professionals (1966)
« on: September 14, 2021, 12:16:18 PM »
In Germany The Professionals apparently sold much more tickets than the Dollar films.

Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Tough Guys Don't Dance (1987)
« on: September 14, 2021, 11:57:14 AM »
I don't remember much either.

About 6/10 is what my memory proposes ...

Other Films / Re: STRANGER ON THE RUN ( 1967)
« on: August 26, 2021, 05:57:34 AM »
It was made for TV (which is recognizable), but was then released here and there theatrically. Actually it should be better considering director, star and a good plot. 6/10

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