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The italian post office has issued a stamp on the 30th anniversary of Sergio's death. See here:

http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2019/04/30/stamp-marks-30th-anniversary-of-sergio-leone-death_eb90740b-6b6b-4c44-a57d-bdb39fd7ea48.html

It could have been done better in my opinion...

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General Discussion / Exactly 30 years ago
« on: April 30, 2019, 04:31:52 AM »
Exactly 30 years ago, in the evening of April 30th 1989, Sergio died at his home in via Birmania in Rome, watching a movie on TV ("I want to live" by Robert Wise).
He will never be forgotten...
May he rest in peace!

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Sergio Leone News / Noel Simsolo's book now available in Italian
« on: April 26, 2019, 03:24:00 AM »
For my Italian countrymen and people who speak Italian, I just want to inform you that Noel Simsolo's famous book "Conversation avec Sergio Leone" is now available also in Italian. It is called "Sergio Leone - c'era una volta il cinema" translated from french by Massimiliano Matteri and edited by Il Saggiatore.
Got my copy from Amazon.it today.
Surprisingly, to the best of my knowledge, after all these years no English translation is yet available.

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For those of you who are entitled to receive the DVD of the documentary "Sad Hill unearthed", I have some good news...
I wrote to Luisa Cowell asking when we may expect the DVD and I got following reply:

Hi Leonardo, gladly I sent all yesterday, they come by ordinary post so it will take a couple of weeks I suppose.

Luisa

so just be patient for another 10-15 days... 8) 8)

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Have you read that book?

Yes, many years ago and I still have it. I do not remember exactly what you state, but I will check. In any case, I still think that nobody writes a book about a movie director unless he likes him and his style...and De Fornari wrote at least 3 books on SL...

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Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Bogdanovich interview March 2019
« on: March 07, 2019, 08:06:37 AM »
Interesting.
We all know that in 1969 when Leone called P. Bogdanovich to Rome as a possible candidate for directing DYS, after a short while they didn't get along at all and eventually  Leone told him to pack his suitcase and leave. According to many interviews, P.B. always claimed that one of the reasons for the disagreement was that SL would always talk about close ups, whereas P.B. by his own admission didn't like close ups at all.
Yet in this interview 50 years later, he states that he shot a lot of close ups of Tatum O'Neal in Paper Moon and when asked "Can you create an award winning performance with close ups?" he replies "Oh yes you can. I did it a number of times"... 8) 8) :) :)

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You sure?
Well, in fact he writes on page 11 of this book that it took him "quite some time before he became a Leone admirer", since he was not impressed by FOD and FFDM. Things changed with GBU, so in fact we are talking about 3 years approx., which in my opinion is not a very long time.
Furthermore, the second book on Leone written by an Italian and published in Italy was De Fornari's book in 1977 ("Sergio Leone", Moizzi Ed.); before that we only had Franco Ferrini's book dated 1971 ("L'antiwestern e il caso Leone", ed. Bianco e Nero). Normally one doesn't write a book about a director unless he likes the guy.
So what I was trying to say was that De Fornari maybe wasn't as fast as Ferrini, but certainly he was much faster to appreciate Leone's work than T. Kezich, Grazzini, Claudio G. Fava and many other film critics in Italy,  who only after OUTIA "suddenly" started realizing that Leone was indeed a great director.

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Looks like the "All About" book is also delayed.
In Italy it is already available (in Italian of course) and it's called "Tutto Leone" and I just got it from Amazon Italy today. Had a quick look and as far as I can see, it is simply beautiful. Tons of pictures, and everything well in order, starting from Il Colosso di Rodi to the very last project he was working on (Leningrad of course). The book also shows a detailed list of all the projects he was thinking about or has refused (did you know he was asked to direct "The life and times of judge Roy Bean"?). Lots of interviews, anecdotes and other interesting material. A total of 319 pages written by Oreste De Fornari,  the man who recognized Leone's genius long before all the other film critics finally realized that Leone was one of the greatest directors ever. This book is a must for any Leone fan in my humble opinion.

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Sad Hill Unearthed - The Documentary
« on: December 31, 2018, 04:54:18 AM »
I wonder if you approach the Navajo Tribe with a proposal for the restoration. Fort Apache was shot at Gouldings.

Harmonica was a half breed could make the case that he was Mexican/Navajo, no? An extra attraction to bring in more tourist dollars to the tribe. Maybe we could even get Goulding's involved.

Worth a shot, follow Sad Hill Unearthed's playbook.
To restore the arch would surely not cost too much and I cannot see why the Navajo Tribe shouldn't give the permission to go ahead. Unfortunately I live in Italy, but some of our friends in USA could maybe sound them out??? As I already did with Sad Hill Unearthed, I promise I will contribute financially once we get permission. I'm pretty sure if only 30% of the board's members contribute, we can cover all costs easily . C'mon American friends (C.J., Dave, Drink etc.): get the ball rolling!!!

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General Discussion / Re: Siege of Leningrad
« on: October 24, 2018, 04:15:04 AM »
My niece is studying languages (Italian) at Uni Noodles
I’ll ask her to take a pass at it 👍

OK, I have seen the very same thing in Torino at the Sergio Leone exhibition a few years ago. The first page is just a very boring page saying in essence that the 3 screen writers Benvenuti, De Bernardi and Medioli confirm that a few days before they have agreed to assist Sergio Leone for the making of the movie about the siege of Leningrad. They also say that nobody sofar has asked them to do anything concrete yet. The rest on this page is absolutely of no interest, some philosophical aspect of screen writing.. What is interesting though is what you can see on the last page or page 5, which unfortunately shows only half the page. But it describes already part of that famous opening scene (the 15 minutes single shot without interruptions, which would have made cinematic history - see my previous post in this thread dated 30-07-2007) which has been described also in Frayling's book. But there is no script as such, probably  in those pages you can find only some ideas put on paper and some description of what screen writing should be according to the 3 men.

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Sergio Leone News / Re: Italian Raffaella Leone Interview
« on: October 24, 2018, 04:03:07 AM »
https://www.iodonna.it/personaggi/2018/10/15/raffaella-leone-il-segreto-del-mio-successo-la-stima-di-mio-padre-sergio/?refresh_ce-cp

Includes a nice gallery of photos with her father 👍
Interesting interview. Their young company Leone Film Group seems to do quite well, as revenues for the first half of 2018 are 52Mio $. She takes care of productions, her brother Andrea looks after acquisitions and distribution. "What do you remember about Clint Eastwood?" and she replies "I remember that it is true that my dad once said that Clint has two expressions: one with the hat and one without. Later somebody added a modified version, i.e. one with the cigar and one without" ...
Nice photos too, most of them unseen before as they are taken from the Leone family album.
Quite a lady!
Thanks for posting LBM!!

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The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re: Sad Hill Unearthed - The Documentary
« on: September 10, 2018, 05:16:01 AM »
It's the soundtrack.
I also got the soundtrack and I wrote to Luisa asking for the movie. Here is her reply:
Dear Leonardo

You have the right to two things (i) a digital download of the OST and (ii) DVD with the film. This is the first one, the digital download of the OST. You will receive the DVD once is done, most likely end of 2018 / beginning of 2019.

Regards

Luisa

so we'll have to wait a bit longer..

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Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: "OUATITW: Shot by Shot" by Frayling?
« on: August 08, 2018, 06:54:07 AM »
Since I can't wait to get the Angelo Novi / Frayling book, I stumbled upon this book on Amazon and I bought it on impulse:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/SERGIO-LEONE-BACKSTAGE-GENIUS-PHOTOGRAPHY/dp/8890895519/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1533735224&sr=8-3&keywords=jarach

I just got it today and it was a disappointment. 100 pages and about 80 black & white photos taken on the OUTITW set, mostly of Claudia Cardinale. This is of course OK, as she is really stunningly beautiful, but I was expecting more photos of the other actors and of Leone himself. The book is in Italian and English, with a bio by the author and an interview with Terence Hill. Each photo comes with a short and totally useless caption, poorly translated into English ("Claudia kisses her horse, like her own son" or "Jason has accompanied Claudia to her caravan. She can finally take a shower to get away the sweat and the dust" or even "She was so beautiful that made to fall in love the whole troupe").
The author claims that he went to Almeria to see and take photos of a genius at work, but in reality it's a series of fashion shots of Claudia Cardinale.
Very disappointing. Now I'll wait even more eagerly for the Novi/Frayling book.

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Once Upon A Time In America / Re: RSI Italian TV Interview Leone 1984
« on: July 10, 2018, 03:54:58 AM »
Leonardo the cut version of OUATIA opened in the “Summer” of 1984 (1st June)
The dispute with the US distributor (Ladd Co) played out between March - June 84
Leone recut/removed scenes from his Euro version (270 -227/9 mins
In Feb 1983
You are right, I stand corrected.  I read the article again and it says that the interview took place in spring 1984 (so not in autumn as I wrongly wrote) and it aired on the 5th of may 1984 on RSI, which is the Swiss TV for the italian speaking region of Switzerland (RSI = Radio Svizzera Italiana). Furthermore, the length of the movie in the article is indicated at 3 hours and 49 minutes, which tallies with your post (227/9), but oddly enough in the interview, Leone mentions clearly the length as 3 hours and 40 minutes...
Anyway, Leone in the interview seems to know already that there is a risk that the USA version would be shortened (he says that these are the rules in USA), but what apparently he did not know yet was that the film  would also be put in chronological order. But listening to this interview one has the impression that the "war" with Ladd Co. was already going on, so if you say that the dispute started in march, the interview is probably dated sometime in april 1984...
The conversation with Carlo Simi in the beginning is funny, since Leone keeps saying "I want this", "It has to be exactly like this..", "this is a must" (referring to the 1929 Boeing, which he tells Simi is owned by Howard Hughes), "look at this orchestra, this must be reproduced exactly like this!" and Carlo Simi keeps saying "OK, no problem, can be done.." and in the end, Leone tells him "Well,  good work now" and Simi "Thanks a lot!"

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Once Upon A Time In America / Re: RSI Italian TV Interview Leone 1984
« on: July 09, 2018, 04:00:00 AM »
Sorry it would have helped if I had posted the link 🤣
My apologies
Here you go👍

https://www.tvsvizzera.it/tvs/maestri-del-cinema_questa-era-l-america-di-sergio-leone/44188028

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Thanks for posting! Very interesting, as I have never seen this interview before. For the first time I think we have the exact length of the movie, since Sergio talks about that from 15:04 to 17:16. In essence, he says that the full version of the movie is 4 hours and 30 minutes, but this very long version is meant just for the TVs which will be allowed to air it in about 3 years after the premiere in the theaters. He stresses that the length of the movie he wanted (in his words: "my official version and the version for the whole world") for the cinema is 3 hours and 40 minutes and that this is the only version he will recognize as his own work. He knows already during this interview (autumn 1984) that most probably the USA version would be chopped and changed and he very clearly states that any attempt to do so would mean that he will not want to be recognized as the author of this chopped movie.

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