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Sergio Leone News / Re:OUATIW-DVD....Finally
« on: December 28, 2003, 04:56:41 PM »
Boys the wait is over! I bought my copy at TOWER RECORDS in Gledale, CA! It has a lot of extras and the two disc set only cost me $14.95. Talk about a steel. I still need to open it and will do so tonight. Happy watching!

For a Few Dollars More / Re:Better Lee Van Cleef Character?
« on: May 08, 2003, 04:32:49 PM »

Very perceptive! I never noticed that.

For a Few Dollars More / TO: AARONSON
« on: May 05, 2003, 09:30:32 AM »

I know it has been a few weeks since you asked your question but I thought I would answer it:

I am not French, nor have I ever lived or visited France. Nevertheless, I have a deep respect and admiration for French Cinema and the great theorists and critics, such as the French New Wave as well as Calle du Cinema (I'm sure I spelled this incorrectly), Truffaut, Godard and a recent talent, Besson (I love the fifth element, leon and la femme nikita). The guy rocks, I just wish he would get his butt in gear and put out a few films a year rather that Executive Producing. Anyway, jouissance is a word used extensively in Film Theory and loved the sound or spelling of the word and the film theory meaning. No, I'm not into porn. You're the first person to ask me about the name and so I'm getting it off my chest.

Best Wishes,


For a Few Dollars More / Re:Better Lee Van Cleef Character?
« on: May 05, 2003, 09:16:40 AM »
HARMONICA!!! Where have you been? You used to be on the old board 24-7. I hope to hear from you more. Welcome back!

By the way, Lee Van Cleef's role, his masterpiece, his legacy has to be GBU. Can you tell I have an opinion on this matter.

He did an increadible job in both films and it shows he had a great deal of depth.

By the way, do any of you remember when he had a TV show and he was a ninja? I loved that show and then boom, it was off the air. I was so upset. I can't remember the name of the show, does anyone remember?


Sergio Leone News / Re:Restored GBU coming to theaters ... and AMC!
« on: April 30, 2003, 08:31:27 AM »

thanks for the heads up, seven up.

General Discussion / Re:Translations
« on: April 30, 2003, 08:10:49 AM »
I couldn't agree more with shorty larsen. Voices extremely important... I can't speak from personal experience with Leone films but there was a little ditty called CINEMA PARADISIO (one of the great films in my humble opinion). I had seen the film several times with yellow subtitles. One night I rented a copy and didn't realize it was the dubbed version. I watched the first 10 minutes and became so frustrated I retured the video that evening. The film was ruined as far as I'm concerned.

Joe, regarding your question, as far a literal translations... it just doesn't exist. I was in Mexico for holiday and I was able to see a few film in dubed Spanish (again the voices were a joke). What they were saying and what the subtitles said were two very different things. Now I'm not talking about a rewrite of the story but it was a joke. Rewatching the films in the great US of A, there were no differences that I could detect between subtitles and US versions.

A Fistful of Dollars / YOJIMBO VS. FFOD
« on: April 01, 2003, 05:58:06 PM »
Fellow Brethern,

First, lets be honest, Leone totally copied YOJIMBO.

But second, Kurosawa did his own copying from an American story (according to Something to do with death).

Third and most importantly, Leone's FFOD is by far superior...

Case in point:
1. Leone's introduction of Marisol from the beginning and Clint's building relationship with her is by far more powerful that Kurosawa's - It also produces mystery and tension throughout the first act and a good part of the second act - lastly, Ramon's desire to have Marisol returned is more strongly established than the Kurosawa's version, created a more intense explosion for the finally.

2. The idea that these Lord's would allow the Yojimbo to go back and forth and play them such fools is silly and maybe that's funny to the Japanese but I found it tiresome. Leone's who clock and dagger of the anti-hero made it so much better because we all know the dude is going to pay for it.

3. Leone's pacing is right on and in YOJIMBO, I found the pacing boring... and this is not to say Leone has a face paced film because he doesn't.

Man, I love Leone... I wish he could have made a few more films.

A Fistful of Dollars / Re:Man on Ass significance
« on: April 01, 2003, 05:46:26 PM »
I guess I'm going to have to watch it tonight...
I have never see the stick and I've watched in slow mo...

By the way Caius, I'm 150% Hetero thank you very much... I apologize if I made you nervous.

Nos Vemos Amigos,


General Discussion / Re:WaR iS HeLL BuT WHaT oPTioN WaS THeRe?
« on: April 01, 2003, 05:13:10 PM »
Well Said Angel Eyes...

At least America is starting somewhere (and this is not to say the US's foreign policy should be on a level standard but as our amigo said it does get expensive now doesn't it)!

I'm glad that at least Israel has a few loyal friends (they need it)!

Trivia Games / Re:The Quote Game
« on: March 31, 2003, 04:59:06 PM »
I must be going crazy...
I thought Cheyanne said both the suspender and thousand father bits...
I have to go home and watch...

General Discussion / Re:WaR iS HeLL BuT WHaT oPTioN WaS THeRe?
« on: March 31, 2003, 09:00:13 AM »

I can see that you have at least done your research and I respect your perspective...

As in GBU, not all is as it seems and as our loveable, yet sometimes blinded Tuco demostrates, when driven by emotion we can't always see clearly...

I am not saying the US has not foreign interests involved...we do. But to simple state that the US is involved to take Iraqi oil and to do Israel's dirty work is either anti-semite or very simplistic. Might I remind you that the main reason why France (Viva, yes for their own self interests) and Russia are not getting involved is not for noble reasons rather they too want to protect oil interests of their own. Their own companies. I'm sure the US is involved in this war for many reasons but the US has not sought war an the Saudi's for their oil. Hussein and his faction are a threat to regional stability and the treatment of his people IS ruthless (according to the present administration and I'm sure they have valid information as to this threat). I don't like war but their are worse options (look at history and the Germans... Hitler wasn't stopped by anyone until it was way too late. Which reminds me, I think the French Gov. were bed-fellows with Hitler until they realised their self-interests were in danger... funny how history repeats itself...

Viva Self Interest

General Discussion / Re:WaR iS HeLL BuT WHaT oPTioN WaS THeRe?
« on: March 27, 2003, 06:05:46 PM »
I hope this is not trivializing the point but I am fond of Leone's take of society and governments if you will. To me what is so appealing about "THE MAN WITH NO NAME (yes I know he has a name but it is so much more fun that he doesn't)" is the fact that he can see through the ROJO's of the world and also see the stupidity of the BELL RINGER(S) or JUAN.
Now this is not to say Government and Society are not necessary and important...they are. I think we just need to be a little more sharp when it come understanding the facts. Cigar Joe and Angel Eyes you both have valid points... Let's just keep our eyes open...

God Bless,


General Discussion / Re:WaR iS HeLL BuT WHaT oPTioN WaS THeRe?
« on: March 26, 2003, 02:37:29 PM »
I don't think I am forgetting the problem and I possible did not make myself clear... In my mind Mr. S does have weapons of mass destruction and he has killed HIS OWN people to see if they work or to get rid of them. So this is the perspective I'm coming from (I do have a bit of faith in US intelligence and feel Bush's team is tell us the truth). I do think France and Russia, because of their self-interests are keeping their butts out of this and let's be honest the US has done the same in many situations. I don't agree with the official French position nor many of the peace protestors. I don't think their reasoning makes much sense. Protest if you want (we are luck in the US of A to have that right) but for goodness sakes do it for the right reasons and with the best information available. Also, to clarify, not all Americans, Iraqis, French, etc are for or against the war. Thus, I was speaking specific groups.

By the way, your English is very good.

General Discussion / WaR iS HeLL BuT WHaT oPTioN WaS THeRe?
« on: March 25, 2003, 01:56:51 PM »
Hola Amigos,

I know this is a tender subject for many but I was watching GBU this weekend and reflected on it's message. Many critics miss read Leone's intension, which I think was to say war is hell but sometimes it is necessary. I think it also deals with three Characters who look at the war in different ways and as a result deal with varying experiences. I have also been watching the tv like all of you have been doing. These faux hippies really think there hot stuff but I wonder if their band-Wagoner’s or just wanna-be intellectuals that want to go back to the days of protest during the V.N. War. I listened to their arguments and most of them seem rather silly, such as "What have the Iraqi People done to you?" Well the war is not on the Iraqi People but their leader who doesn't give a rat's (you know what) about them.
The Civil War (GBU) was awful but what choice did Lincoln have? Many Northerns or France (Frogs) or England could have said, "What did the Plantation Owners ever do to you?" Again the question doesn't really deal with the issue now does it.
I pray Bush and his associates have the proper information and they are using it properly. I think they are and all these faux hippies don't really know what they know. I think it is fine if they protest but please, do a bit of research and protest for the right reasons, cuz as a wise man once said, "War is ugly but being coward is even uglier."


Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Gangs of New York
« on: March 25, 2003, 01:35:04 PM »
I haven't seen GONY but I can say that the oscars are full of crap for the most part. LOTR should have won best picture...what did it not have? Look at Chicago, although it is a great city, the film way short of being best picture, etc. What a joke! The whole Oscar race is silly and it is very much controled by a few hippie wanna be's. I know because I work with one of the producers who votes and she will vote whatever her friends tell her to vote or if gay rights is popular she'll vote for AMERICAN BEAUTY or BOYS DON'T CRY, not because they were better films but because she wants to feel popular...I have to hear her crap on the phone all day long about what this person thinks and this other person and her taking notes to make sure she's got it right so she doesn't have to think for herself.
Boy can you guys tell I don't like the Oscars....?
P.S. Hola Cigar Joe (long time no talk)!

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