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1  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / DeNiro's body, Tiler's voice on: November 29, 2005, 05:47:47 PM
When Noodles gets out of jail, Max goes to pick him up. Max says to Noodles "you're looking good". Noodles says to Max "you're looking even better".

Except when Noodles says this it sounds like Scott Tiler's voice, not DeNiro's.

Anyone else notice this and if so, is there some significance?
2  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: who would win a showdown? on: November 12, 2005, 12:00:42 PM
I neglected to say in #4. The winner would be Max.
3  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: who would win a showdown? on: November 11, 2005, 06:35:50 PM
In a situation like that, the more civilized man is at a disadvantage.

Not that Noodles is civilized, far from it, but compared to Max, he's an angel.
4  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: who would win a showdown? on: November 11, 2005, 03:30:17 PM
If you're referring to something that requires brains, then it would be Max. He has less scruples and is more coniving.

If you mean physical, then it would be Noodles. Even though Max is crazier, remember it was Noodles who killed Bugsie while the others were cowering.
5  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: A dream? on: November 11, 2005, 02:31:51 PM
Might have bored Noodles and Moe too.    LOL
6  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: A dream? on: November 11, 2005, 02:23:28 PM
Scooter Libby works (actually worked) for V.P. Dick Cheney. He's now under indictment by an independant prosecutor. He's involved in the "outting" of Valerie Plame, who was a spy for the CIA.
7  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: A dream? on: November 11, 2005, 02:13:04 PM
Sorry Hex, your #19 and my #20 were posted about the same time and we said basically the same thing.
8  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: A dream? on: November 11, 2005, 02:08:51 PM
Perhaps, but if there was a scandal going on and reported on T.V., they would show his picture and there would be a picture of him in newspapers.

A month ago nobody would have heard of nor seen Scooter Libby, but since the scandal everyone knows who he is and what he looks like.

1969 television may be primitive compared to today, but it certainly was able to show a picture of a person who was involved in a scandal.
9  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: More about the dream on: November 11, 2005, 01:04:35 PM
I'm new, guess it should have been on the last one.
10  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / More about the dream on: November 11, 2005, 05:56:52 AM
The fact that there are scenes in an opium den almost has to make it a dream. I have known many people who lived on the Lower East Side of NY in the 20's and 30's and no one ever mentioned anything about opium dens. I'm sure they existed, but out of maybe 100 people that I've known who lived there, no one ever mentioned it. True, in the movie the dens are in Chinatown, but that is only a few blocks from the Lower East Side.

SL would almost have to put Noodles there to show it was a dream. Frequenting these places could not have been that common.
11  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: Good things come to those who wait. . . on: November 10, 2005, 01:36:57 PM
Hey Groggy

It's well worth the wait. I saw the DVD for the first time last Sunday. It blew me away.  And I've seen the movie several times on VHS.  Nothing like the widescreen DVD.
12  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: A dream? on: November 10, 2005, 12:15:50 PM
True, you do have to stretch your imagination a little to see it as a dream. Of course Noodles couldn't know about The Beatles or Buicks. But I think SL was trying to show how part of American society developed and did it through this dream.

Can anyone answer me this.   If Max becomes the U.S. Secretary of Commerce, how reasonable is it that neither Noodles nor Moe have any idea what the U.S. Secretary of Commerce looks like. I'm sure there are newspapers in Buffalo and in New York where Moe lives. There is no cable T.V., but there is network T.V. and nobody knows who Commissioner Bailey is.
13  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: Max (Bailey) not James Woods on: November 09, 2005, 09:29:01 AM
That's pretty much what I figured.

But do we really know that it's him?  LOL
14  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Max (Bailey) not James Woods on: November 09, 2005, 09:01:23 AM
There's a scene at the very end of the movie where Max (Bailey) comes down after Noodles has left the estate. Max is standing right outside the gates of the estate near the garbage truck. That person was NOT played by James Woods. Is there any significance to that or was Woods just not available when that scene was shot.
15  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: A dream? on: November 08, 2005, 04:02:11 PM
Thanks Dlanor, all excellent points that you make, especially the point about Deborah's perpetual youth while everyone was older.
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