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General Information / General Discussion / Re: How much is known of Leone's unmade movies?
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on: May 17, 2005, 12:33:47 PM
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I read that he wanted to start a "after american dream trilogy" too.
Here's what I posted in another topic (i don't remeber where i read this...) :
"The first shot was to be the camera making a zoom out from a room in Stalingrad through the window, we can see the building, in ruins, then as long as the camera is still doing a zoom out we can see the city and the river next to it and then the camera stops and you can see (as in the beginning of star wars episode IV) the german airplanes stuka reaching the city.
All of this with Shostacovich "Stalingrad" Symphony in the background.
This movie was extremely important in Leone's Vision.
Leone analyses "american dream" in his spaghetti westerns and in OUTA and he concludes that the american dream doesn't exist no more and that in even when it existed, in order to achieve it you had to give away all your child dreams and become a violent and evil man in a violent and evil system.
With "900 days" he wanted to explore the other "broken dream", the sovietic one, telling a love story in a terrible war background.
Leone was not communist. If you don(t believe just watch the Juan/Rod Steiger speach about revolution in DYS. Leone was more an anarchist to me. It is clear to me that he wouldn't show an optimist vision of the Soviet Union and the communist system, but a dark one.
Jean Jacques Annaud took Leone's project (he told it himself) and transformed it simply into......"
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General Information / General Discussion / Re: Leone: populist or art-house?
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on: May 16, 2005, 01:09:26 PM
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Dear Titoli: do you realy think Leone's movies doesn't makes you reflect and they don't live with you after you have seen them?
Do you think his profound study of the United States and the end of the american dream on OUTW and OUTA is not a matter of reflection? Or that the speech of Rod Steiger about revolution on DYS is not a deep an excelent analysis of the implication of a revolution?
From my own part I can only see OUTA once a year because of its extreme sadness and pesimism, wich are key elements and a vision of life.
Not a single movie by Godard makes that effect on me.
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Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: where is Shorty Larsen???
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on: May 16, 2005, 12:47:34 PM
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Well, this is to me the central question of cinema and it is linked with another topic discussed recently on the forum: "Is Leone an autheur?". What is the meaning of this?
Let's start by the beginning: do we agree that cinema masterpieces are first of all a revolutionnary and artistic way to tell a story? Let's think for a moment in Orson Wells, Stanley Kubrick, Sergio Leone. Are they more artists in the way of treating the light and the sound in a movie or are the fantastic storytellers??? The answer is both, no doubt, but what comes first? What each one of us think that comes first?
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Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: where is Shorty Larsen???
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on: May 16, 2005, 12:24:12 PM
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Indeed my fellow countryman, I forgot what discussions you are talking about. But I assume it must be the discussions around the meaning of cinema. Is cinema a good story? A way to tell a story? Or just THE way to tell a story, the artistic way to tell a story?
Was it this?
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