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Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: How the West Was Won (1962)
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on: April 22, 2013, 01:01:39 AM
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what you mean to say is y'all are anti-America however possible  No, what I mean to say is that European works, as far as I know, usually chose the "Noble Savage" stream of non-authentic portrayal. Unless they were colonial works with an interest.
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Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: How the West Was Won (1962)
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on: April 21, 2013, 11:34:44 PM
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Well, as I said, I'm no expert. Thanks for clarifying that. And I'm European on top of that. We've long had a soft spot for the Indian side of things over here. And European portrayals of them are usually also very wrong, as we tend to project our own troubles into them. So, whatever.
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Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: How the West Was Won (1962)
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on: April 21, 2013, 11:20:49 AM
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What I didn't like is how the movie clearly shows how a treaty is broken with the Indians, and how part of the "winning" of the west was a very brutal business. Yet ultimately it celebrates it. Like, let's show how this and that and the other was done unethically and murderously, but hey, wtf, we won the west! You can't try to be honest and show the brutality toward Indians that was part of winning the West, and then say, hey, let's celebrate it all.
That's pretty much what I meant. Ironic. I think (though I'm no expert) this must have been one of the first American Westerns to acknowledge that historical fact; it undermines its own message.
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Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: How the West Was Won (1962)
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on: April 21, 2013, 08:26:03 AM
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I have the special edition DVD - got it years ago for my birthday or for Christmas from my sister, because it has Eli Wallach.  I pretty much agree with what has been said here. The ending with all the modern sights is quite ridiculous... and rather ironic nowadays. But other than that, I quite enjoyed it. I liked that it has the Western "larger-than-life" qualities, and reads like a romance, yet does not slip into too formulaic storylines; there were surprises along the way. In the bonus on Cinerama, Eli Wallach explains how difficult it was to act in front of the Cinerama cameras... you were supposed to be looking at an actor, but because of the distortion of the image, you actually could not look at them in real life. Considering that, I think the actors did a marvelous job.
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Films of Sergio Leone / Other Films / Re: Cry, Onion! aka Cipolla Colt (1975)
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on: April 21, 2013, 05:40:10 AM
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Thinking back, this has a lot of common with the later films by the makers of Lemonade Joe, Adéla ještě nevečeřela and Tajemný hrad v Karpatech, although it has less of the... steampunk?, and obviously still works within the confines of a SW (just like Adéla is a whodunnit), though it stretches them a lot.
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General Information / General Discussion / Re: The Damn Trains!
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on: April 21, 2013, 03:19:11 AM
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I see that a lot of images that I posted when this was a new topic are history.
Unfortunately, so are apparently A1's posts... If you've lost those pictures, I think I still have them all saved from when I was writing that paper. I'm a hoarder of pictures.
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Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re: Evolution of titoli
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on: April 21, 2013, 01:23:35 AM
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But who believes in invisible cats? Find me even one person. Sometimes Mr. Lewis's Platonism leads him astray.
We will have to agree to disagree. I do not think people believe in invisible cats, but I think the simile is strong enough to show the point. (I hope you know where that comes from; I hate to take people's words out of context, though it can't be helped.)
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Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re: Fistful Vocals.
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on: April 20, 2013, 08:03:48 AM
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I was actually thinking of watching too much X-Men Evolution... and watching too much animated TV series on YouTube really is too much. Anyway, somehow I don't think there are gay metaphors in that. Although if someone believes firmly in them, they'll find them anywhere, like invisible cats. Thank you for the simile, Mr C.S. Lewis.
Enough of that!
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