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16  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Heath Ledger R.I.P on: January 23, 2008, 10:23:50 AM
For sure, Dark Knight will open HUGE now !
17  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Harmonica should NOT rise from the dead ! on: January 10, 2008, 03:37:43 PM
Well the whole point is, this scene was never intended to be there. He cut it from his own cut, and only sent it to the americans because they had butchered the movie, and this sequence then became needed.

When the americans did the "uncut" version, they mistakenly left this scene in. It should not be included in any DVD copy of the movie that also as the outpost scene.

As to why Leone filmed it, you all know that movies are shot, and then edited. At the editing stage, director's make their choices and often delete shot scenes that become unnecessary when the movie is put together.

Wether one like it or not... Leone never intended this scene to be in any cut that also had the outpost scene. Therefore, it's mistakenly edited in on the DVD (amongst other complete aberations).

Get video watchdog 110, it's a must for any Leone fan.

http://www.videowatchdog.com/home/HTM/110.htm

ONCE IS NOT ENOUGH!
Sergio Leone's Railroaded Masterpiece

Steven Lloyd, a first-generation fan of ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST, charts the five different versions of the film which have played theatrically in the United States since 1969-and explains why Paramount's DVD, billed and widely acclaimed as the "original uncut masterpiece," is neither uncut... nor the original version!



18  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Harmonica should NOT rise from the dead ! on: January 10, 2008, 04:00:02 AM
My point is, Leone never put that scene into the film. It was never in the european montage.
It was put in by the americans because they cut the outpost scene.

You should get Video Watchdog 110, where this is adressed. Leone never cut that scene into is own final version (and the recent DVD is not Leone's cut, it's a bastardisation of his film). All explained in Video Watchdog.
19  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Harmonica should NOT rise from the dead ! on: January 01, 2008, 03:59:42 AM
I hope the scene where Harmonica wakes up on the train station, after being shot in the opening sequence, is NOT in the forthcoming Scorcese restoration, because it sucks ! It totally kills the eery reappearance of Harmonica later at the outpost, which makes him appear for a ghost or an invincible guy, until the reason he is still alive is answered.

I don't care about any other change to the movie recuts, but this scene should be deleted from all existing DVDs of the movie (and put as an extra outside of the movie) !

I will not be able to see the movie again with that scene in : for years, the only versions I saw didn't have this scene, and it made for a much superior movie than the "spelled" one that as become the common version.
20  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: French article on: December 20, 2007, 02:14:29 AM
He says that was Leone first cinemascope movie  Grin
21  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: French article on: December 19, 2007, 11:42:03 AM
This feature must be written off, it says the movie is shot in 2.35 cinemascope. Yeah, sure guy, way to  Afro I'm an hermaphrodite, by the way, and Leone best directed movie is Dirty Harry.
22  Films of Sergio Leone / For a Few Dollars More / Re: On Blue Ray and Hd-dvd in December on: December 14, 2007, 04:40:02 PM
Well, you won't notice much difference, unless your screen is 42" minimum, 50" is better, with 60" being the cooler.
If you got a 32" TV, don't bother. As for 22" ones, any divx will play as good as any dvd, that's how small the resolution is.
23  Films of Sergio Leone / For a Few Dollars More / Re: On Blue Ray and Hd-dvd in December on: December 14, 2007, 01:26:56 PM
It's obvious the HD is better, Clint skin never was greenish in parts Grin
24  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / Re: The intermission : when did it occur originaly in the cinema / VHS ? on: December 06, 2007, 01:27:28 PM
Yeah, I think that there was two ways of putting up the intermission. The car in water scene is the end of a reel. It happened that way probably in europe, with a difference in the USA ? Also, I think the VHS used to have a recap montage at the beginning of tape 2, thus you still got the cut from the car in water to the car in 1968.
25  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Scorsese Restoration ! on: December 06, 2007, 08:50:02 AM
Nope, the old version (2003) on DVD have colors which are totally off, and I would say that all Leone releases currently on DVD aren't 100% spot on by any mean, there's a lot of room for improvement.
26  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Scorsese Restoration ! on: December 06, 2007, 04:23:13 AM
Even better then !
27  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In America / The intermission : when did it occur originaly in the cinema / VHS ? on: December 06, 2007, 01:37:39 AM
OK, when I rented the double VHS tape back in 1985, the intermission was never at the place where it is on the DVD, it happened right after Noodles and co go for a "swim" !

When the card landed in the water, a card "end of first part" came in, in the same lettering as the opening credits.

Then, the second VHS opened with the shot on the TV screen, with old Noodles watching the infos.

So I don't remember in the cinema, but as I had made a copy of the VHS and saw it countless times, that's where the intermission always was.

Does someone remembers different ?
28  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Scorsese Restoration ! on: December 06, 2007, 01:31:45 AM
That's correct and regarding Leone films, the correct colors schemes needs to be reinstated, I mean it does not amuse me to watch GBU with many scenes all being brown and yellow. I know that techniscope colors might fade, but the way things are right now, it's easy as a click to bring them back (plus Scorsese is lobbying for OUATITW to be restored with the correct colors, and this applies to all existing Leone films on DVD, they should all be redone the same way)
29  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re: Scorsese Restoration ! on: December 05, 2007, 01:48:30 AM
For sure, HD doesn't mean anything on a 20", but bigger is better. Watching Leone movies on a 42 or 50" TV is a whole, different experience, and in HD, I think if the work is done right, it might be even better !
30  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Blu Ray vs. HD DVD on: December 04, 2007, 02:42:41 AM
I don't think it will end, there are too many interests at stake, which have nothing to do with quality, and everything with market shares.

As for not double dipping your collections, realise that some DVDs will remains superior to HD because they offer "lost" versions (ie Walter Hill The Warriors), while most HD / BR will look superior on a HD or HD ready display, + all the players can play, an even better, SD DVDs by upscaling them, so to get either a PS3 or a HD player is worthy. It's not like you could suddenly not play your collection anymore.

Personaly, I can't wait to upgrade, and I can't wait for people out there to realise that both formats are here to stay. As for quality of BR vs HD-DVD, when Warner issues the same encoding, on both format at the same time, all reviewers agree that there's NO DIFFERENCE. But boy, does it look good, and I can't wait for more Leone on HD.
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