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12586  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:The trailer to GBU, big big big mistake (if i'm not wrong,) on: January 04, 2003, 10:59:47 AM
Im think its pretty flexible, not everything translates easily, but it was italian first,  world second by the title choice, but of course to us it sounds better GBU.
12587  Films of Sergio Leone / A Fistful of Dollars / Re:Man on Ass significance on: January 04, 2003, 10:46:54 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't seen Yohimbo in a while, but the parallel scene was the dog carring the severed hand, right?
12588  General Information / General Discussion / Re:is there continuity in the first three movies on: January 04, 2003, 10:41:43 AM
There wasn't supposed to be continuity, but since each film goes back in time previous to its predessor (this deduction is made from the hardwear (guns) used), it would have been hard to mention the previous film.
12589  General Information / General Discussion / Re:Do women love Leone too on: January 04, 2003, 10:38:02 AM
Well, my wife (born & raised in Montana) has always liked westerns, she said they showed an aywfun lot of them at the local "movie house" but her tastes run to the more comedic side, some of her favorites are "Cat Ballou", "Support Your Local Sheriff/Gunfighter", "The Halleluia Trail" etc., etc.
12590  General Information / Trivia Games / Re:when were they invented? on: January 02, 2003, 04:45:38 PM
Well thanks, lol, I would have answered them sooner but I forgot about this section  Grin
12591  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Gangs of New York on: January 02, 2003, 07:33:27 AM
oh well, to each his own, like I said, it could have been tweaked a bit in my opinion, but I felt it had Leone's touch for realism. I guess if Leone's mileu was the western it could be said that Scorsese's is New York City.
12592  Films of Sergio Leone / Once Upon A Time In The West / Re:The best movie ever made... on: January 01, 2003, 04:08:59 PM
Oh come on my vote is with GUB, GBU was very original in storyline, entertainment value, music and plot twists which I enjoy the whole way through. The three way corrida shootout was one of the greatest ever,  while OUTITW was more an homage to the traditional western with the traditional themes.

That said, I do very much enjoy the opening sequence, ( by the way that's the linkage to the pump on the windmill thats making the groaning sound) the initial McBain Ranch scene when Frank and his theme are introduced, Clauduia's entrance and Lionel Stander's way station. I also liked the gunfight on the train. Other sections seem to drag a bit for me. The town shoot out was already done in GBU, and we knew that Bronson would win the shootout with Frank. I like the ending sequence with the railroad gangs.
12593  General Information / Trivia Games / Re:Cuban born dancer in which movie? on: January 01, 2003, 09:09:26 AM
No clue, but I would venture a guess that its either FDM, the lady at the hotel with the short husband she looks a bit like she might be Cuban, or someone in OUTIA
12594  General Information / Trivia Games / Re:when were they invented? on: January 01, 2003, 09:05:40 AM
Ok, here's what I found out with a bit of surfing, Let me know how you arrived at some of the choices.

MACHINE GUN (AFOD) 1879 or 1885-This one doesn't fit any of your year choices, but there are ealier versions of what some define as machine guns going back to the 1700's, I'll have to go with either Hiram Maxin and his Maxim machine gun in 1885 (it looks similar to the one in AFOD but its not quite the right one) or the Gardiner machine gun in 1879.

TELEGRAPH (FAFDM; OUATITW)  Samuel F.B. Morse had at patent in 1840 and lines were strung in 1844 between Washington and Annapolis Jct. This is the version they used in the US but Europe had other versions notably Cooke and Wheatstone's "Five needle electric telegraph" patented in 1837.

GATLIN GUN (GBU) 1861 Dr. Richard Gatling (a dentist no less, lol).

DYNAMITE (AFOD; GBU) 1866 Alfred Nobel


 
 
 
12595  General Information / General Discussion / Re:Did Leone kill the western with kindness? on: January 01, 2003, 08:25:07 AM
Reflecting some more on Leone and westerns, watching some of the staple Hollwood oaters, I make this observation, Hollywwod directors had the back drop of the real "West" to work with but they tended to be to black and white, idealistic and preachy with their characters, its almost like some type of propaganda.

So the physical West in effect indellibly stamped credibility to the revised dime store novel versions of the real into what was the (pre Leone) American conciousness of what American's think of collectively as the "West".

Leone on the other hand had fastioned a fake west with more "shades of gray" realistic human acting characters with petty human falts that created an alternate revisionist version (actually a revision of the intitial revision,lol) that seems more alive, more in tune with what we know of as real, and hence gives us a version that is probably more in touch with what things were really like west of the Mississippi but with the amplification turned way up.
12596  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Happy Newyear! on: January 01, 2003, 07:52:59 AM
Same to All, Happy New Year!
12597  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Gangs of New York on: January 01, 2003, 07:51:06 AM
It was a great job by Scorsese of creating and dropping you into a plauseable different world that Leone was especially great in doing.

It has a love story that doesn't overpower the film, DiCaprio, as the "good" guy (I think Scorsese's choice of Di Caprio was one of catering to demographics, someone stronger and more Clint like would have been way better) is after revenge on ultra bad guy Bill the Butcher, Bill's weapon of choice is a meat cleaver along with assorted butcher knives that he carries in holsters around his waist, I don't want to give away or tell you any more.

It's a revalation now to remember that  for example "Billy the Kid" and some of the real "West's" other bad men drifted west from New York City slums and other points east.

I'll see this one again, it is a definite DVD buy for me. when it comes out .

Give me your thoughts when you see it, Happy New Year to All!
12598  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Re:Gangs of New York on: December 30, 2002, 04:54:34 PM
Definitely check it out, and you'll see what I mean, Scorsese does a good job. Its not Clint, Lee, or Eli, but Daniel Day Lewis is a great villan, and the weapons of choice are butcher knives, hatches, and clubs, but it has Leones aura, you'll see.
12599  Films of Sergio Leone / The Good, The Bad and The Ugly / Re:The trailer to GBU, big big big mistake (if i'm not wrong,) on: December 30, 2002, 04:36:09 PM
In Italian the sound bite sounds better "Il Buono, Il Bruto, Il Cattivo. "
12600  Other/Miscellaneous / Off-Topic Discussion / Gangs of New York on: December 29, 2002, 07:07:45 PM
Just saw it a few hours ago, wow, a must see, an epic! The lavish amount of attention to detail reminded me a lot of Leone, think of it as Once Upon a Time in America 100 years earlier and combined with the Civil War.

As Tuco and Blondie were dealing with Angel Eyes this was going on in NYC what a piece of bloody history that was completely overshadowed by the Civil War. I was very impressed, I recommed it to Leone fans.
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